[00:13:34] <mutante>	 b_jonas: i hear this on #wikimedia-search
[00:13:54] <mutante>	 "desire to replicate the indexes to labs"
[00:14:09] <b_jonas>	 mutante: um, what does that mean?
[00:14:19] <b_jonas>	 should I join that chan?
[00:14:28] <mutante>	 yea, do it
[00:17:25] <b_jonas>	 mutante: yes, but what indexes, and does "labs" mean the tool server?
[00:18:22] <mutante>	 b_jonas: the tool server moved into labs, it's one project within labs. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Labs_labs_labs
[00:18:35] <mutante>	 called "toollabs"
[00:19:14] <b_jonas>	 ok
[00:21:53] <b_jonas>	 Ah: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21986
[00:22:11] <b_jonas>	 That says there are definitely wikis with url renamed
[00:23:22] <b_jonas>	 And at least one very important renaming: "no" (Norwegian) to "nb" (Norwegian Bokmål)
[00:23:30] <b_jonas>	 though I don't know how early that's happened
[00:24:18] <mutante>	 b_jonas: i'm afraid the ones that look resolved are actually "won't fix" or similar
[00:24:40] <mutante>	 ah, looking at the Norwegian
[00:25:18] <mutante>	 also closed as "invalid" 
[00:25:26] <b_jonas>	 ah right, that one is complicated
[00:25:32] <b_jonas>	 I don't know how it was resolved
[00:26:00] <b_jonas>	 yep, invalid
[00:26:02] <b_jonas>	 ok
[00:26:03] <mutante>	 nb redirects to no
[00:26:16] <b_jonas>	 but at least it shows a renaming _could_ happen if there's a good enough reason for it
[00:26:35] <b_jonas>	 wait WHAT
[00:26:42] <b_jonas>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64717 Move oldwikisource on www.wikisource.org to mul.wikisource.org
[00:26:47] <b_jonas>	 I had no idea that was moved
[00:26:51] <b_jonas>	 whoa
[00:27:12] <b_jonas>	 ah no, it hasn't moved yet
[00:27:16] <b_jonas>	 it's Open
[00:27:23] <b_jonas>	 as in, ticket is open
[00:31:24] <b_jonas>	 heck this is scary: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T25537
[00:31:45] <b_jonas>	 I hope it's just some request by a few crazy people
[00:32:29] <mutante>	 back from 2010 though :)
[00:33:02] <b_jonas>	 mutante: meh, these kind of things take time, and wikipedias have proved to live for long
[00:33:37] <mutante>	 wikimedia.pt is a chapter site now
[00:38:54] <Nemo_bis>	 aaronsw not long enough
[00:41:32] <Nemo_bis>	 b_jonas: sounds like you're looking for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26767
[00:41:49] <Nemo_bis>	 As for wiki migrations I have no idea what's scary about them. It's entirely normal.
[00:42:54] <Nemo_bis>	 b_jonas: no, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt not really
[00:43:21] <Nemo_bis>	 Cf. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Language#Language_code
[00:44:41] <mutante>	 b_jonas: about wiktionary in wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Development/Proposals/2015-05#Task_1:_Wiktionary_interwiki_links
[00:44:54] <mutante>	 if that gets implemented i think your answer will be simply to search wikidata
[00:45:12] <b_jonas>	 Nemo_bis: it's not wiki migrations in general that are scary, I've seen those happen away from Wikia, mostly because of the ads and crazy default skin of Wikia.
[00:46:02] <b_jonas>	 Nemo_bis: but a wiki migration of an established wikipedia away from wikimedia servers, where it isn't wikimedia that has decided to stop hosting that language, sounds scary.
[00:46:26] <Nemo_bis>	 b_jonas: you seem to have not paid attention to one certain letter
[00:46:37] <Nemo_bis>	 it's pt.wiki_M_edia.org
[00:46:52] <Nemo_bis>	 Chapter wikis come and go
[00:47:16] <b_jonas>	 Nemo_bis: thanks for that link
[00:47:43] <Nemo_bis>	 Follow the links in that section as well!
[00:47:45] <b_jonas>	 Nemo_bis: ah! it's only the chapter wiki
[00:47:52] <b_jonas>	 sorry, that's much less scary then
[00:48:10] <b_jonas>	 that shows I'm tired, good bye
[00:48:14] <b_jonas>	 will check those links later
[00:49:13] <Nemo_bis>	 No hurry ;)
[00:50:57] <b_jonas>	 btw, apparently wikiszotar.hu is owned by some commercial company not related to wiktionary
[00:51:15] <b_jonas>	 and is advertising their own commercial dictionary there
[00:52:18] <mutante>	 afaict it's ok as long as they are not using WMF trademarks 
[00:52:29] <b_jonas>	 sure
[00:52:33] <mutante>	 so wiktionary.hu would be bad
[00:52:53] <b_jonas>	 let me look for other domain names
[00:53:04] <b_jonas>	 wikipedia.hu and wikihirek.hu are redirects
[00:53:56] <b_jonas>	 wikivoyage.hu is a redirect to the homepage of a particular tourist bureau
[00:55:35] <b_jonas>	 (the words in the names of projects are totally randomly translated or kept as English in project names by the way)
[00:58:08] <mutante>	 http://www.trademarkencyclopedia.com/wikivoyage/
[00:58:22] <mutante>	 ianal, but i think wikivoyage is not ok 
[01:49:42] <White_Cat>	 mutante I did manage to fix it
[01:49:50] <White_Cat>	 it was a matter of needing a demo effect
[01:50:00] <White_Cat>	 the moment I tried to show problem to someone it fixed itself
[01:50:08] <White_Cat>	 you wont see me complaining
[01:50:25] <White_Cat>	 installing numpy, scipy etc
[01:53:53] <mutante>	 White_Cat: great. i know that effect :) 
[13:27:54] <Allen>	 Are there any known problems currently impacting Commons?  I am attempting to perform an upload (commons:Special:Upload) but the process hangs after I press the "Upload file" button.  The "Preview" button works normally.  Have attempted several times but there is no evidence that any file data is being transferred from my computer to Commons.
[13:33:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Upload seems to work for some https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NewFiles
[13:34:09] <Nemo_bis>	 Might be SNAFU
[13:39:55] <Allen>	 I just performed the upload via the UploadWizard (commons:Special:UploadWizrad).  Looks like the problem is limited to the Plain form.
[13:42:21] <Nemo_bis>	 Allen: does it happen again if you try with another file? do you see anything in the error console if you press F12 before clicking "Upload"?
[13:44:10] <Nemo_bis>	 There were some API/JS changes for upload in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.26/wmf14#Core_changes but not for Special:Upload (yet) AFAIK
[13:50:18] <Allen>	 Not sure what I am seeing, but when I check the console there are several messages from my last attempt to use Special:Upload (it is still attempting to perform an upload after 30 minutes): <"Use of "insertTags" is deprecated. Use mw.toolbar.insertTags instead.">, <"Use of "updateTooltipAccessKeys" is deprecated. Use jquery.accessKeyLabel instead.">, <"Use of "insertTags" is deprecated. Use...
[13:50:19] <Allen>	 ...mw.toolbar.insertTags instead.">, <"Use of "injectSpinner" is deprecated. Use jquery.spinner instead.">, <"Use of "removeSpinner" is deprecated. Use jquery.spinner instead.">
[13:51:59] <Allen>	 In case there are any useful logs on the server, the file I was attempting to upload is File:Louis Zeckendorf.jpg
[13:53:01] <Allen>	 I only had the one file this morning, but will see if I can scrounge up something else
[14:16:58] <Allen>	 Just attempted to use Special:Upload for a different file (Prosper P Parker.jpg).  Upload worked without a problem.