[10:38:21] <a_>	 hello
[15:57:23] <Glaisher>	 Is test2 on mw1017?
[20:55:53] <Nemo_bis>	 Do we still use bacula? https://fsfe.org/activities/ftf/faq-bacula.html
[20:55:53] <mutante>	 Nemo_bis: we do
[20:55:53] <greg-g>	 Nemo_bis: did it switch to a non-FLOSS license?
[20:55:54] <Nemo_bis>	 No or not yet https://fsfe.org/news/2015/news-20150414-01.html 
[20:55:54] <mutante>	 if you use backup::set and stuff from module/backup in puppet, that is bacula in the back
[20:55:54] <Nemo_bis>	 No mentions of license changes on their website.
[20:55:54] <Nemo_bis>	 I guess for now the main "risk" is lack of clarity on what the attribution requirements are. FSFE implies Kern Sibbald may not hold copyright on the entire codebase
[20:56:35] <mutante>	 what does Kern say why he did this?
[20:57:53] <Nemo_bis>	 Dunno. Latest info on http://blog.bacula.org/category/kerns-blog/ are two posts, one for and one against forking. :)
[20:59:56] <Nemo_bis>	 "My goal is to have the Bacula.org code covered by FLAs (or their equivalent) that are clear and consistent" http://blog.bacula.org/bacula-status-report-15-april-2015/
[20:59:56] <Nemo_bis>	 So he gives no reason. :)
[21:01:25] <Platonides>	 I suspect Kern requested something that FSFE lawyers disagreed with
[21:01:30] <mutante>	 Nemo_bis: heh ok, so let's assume there was some drama on mailing lists
[21:01:41] <Platonides>	 thus the agreement expired until they reach a new agreement
[21:03:24] <mutante>	 http://blog.bacula.org/author/kern/
[21:04:03] <Nemo_bis>	 Platonides: the FSFE announcement says that some people gave copyright to Kern, some to FSFE
[21:04:08] <mutante>	 "As the project has grown and become more global and solid, I feel that I can more efficiently manage this responsibility myself, and I thank the FSFE for their help over the years."
[21:04:17] <Nemo_bis>	 And then by transitivity the copyright given to kern went to FSFE as well
[21:04:50] <Nemo_bis>	 (The last line is my interpretation)
[21:05:26] <Platonides>	 Nemo_bis, yes I think that part was clear
[21:05:48] <Platonides>	 "as a result of this the FSFE shall be considered the assignee of all copyrights upon any and all contributions to the Bacula software."
[21:05:50] <Nemo_bis>	 So by "consistency" he means "everything in my control only" :p
[21:12:41] <mutante>	  "more efficiently manage"