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[10:52:53] <aharoni>	 Hallo.
[10:53:12] <aharoni>	 Is Special:Contact actually used anywhere?
[10:53:22] <aharoni>	 IIUC, it's Extension:ContactPage.
[10:53:38] <aharoni>	 By "anywhere" I mean "any Wikimedia sites".
[10:53:46] <aharoni>	 I kinda see it on wikimediafoundation.org, but it doesn't actually work.
[10:56:25] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE: ^
[10:59:49] <Niharika>	  aharoni: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95789 
[11:00:48] <Niharika>	 It definitely is used. 
[11:01:21] <aharoni>	 Niharika: ah, more like https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75697 probably
[11:02:02] <Niharika>	 Ah. I see. 
[11:03:11] <aharoni>	 occasionally I go over the translatable extensions in translatewiki.net and check whether anything is outdated and can be removed (so that volunteer translators would prioritize more important things)
[11:12:24] <Nemo_bis>	 aharoni: shouldn't you use extension-list or make-wmf-release instead? :)
[11:12:53] <Nemo_bis>	 Hunting for abandoned extensions is quite a waste of time when there are already helpful configuration and release maintainers who do that for you ;)
[11:13:34] <aharoni>	 Nemo_bis: First time I hear about it. Would that find that ext-wikimediacontactpagemessages is *not* configured as an extension used by Wikimedia?
[11:14:01] <aharoni>	 (Arguably it's far from being the most important one, but it is used.)
[11:14:22] <Nemo_bis>	 aharoni: no but it would warn you of changes
[11:14:38] <Nemo_bis>	 foundationwiki however is abandoned wasteland
[11:14:52] <aharoni>	 It's also on Meta and nlwiki.
[11:14:59] <aharoni>	 Another nlwiki oddity is
[11:15:03] <aharoni>	 [ drumroll ]
[11:15:05] <aharoni>	 Moodbar
[11:15:22] <Nemo_bis>	 I know. I told you, IIRC :)
[11:15:25] <aharoni>	 Yep.
[11:15:59] <aharoni>	 I'm wondering whether I should remove it from Extensions Used by Wikimedia... 'cause it's used, but its use is not expected to be enhanced to other languages.
[11:16:41] <Nemo_bis>	 It's just waiting for removal, an unclear limbo
[11:16:50] <Nemo_bis>	 How many messages does it have?
[11:17:22] <Nemo_bis>	 Worse offenders are problably PageTriage and EducationProgram which have hundreds of messages each
[11:18:35] <sjoerddebruin>	 Moodbar. :(
[11:19:23] <aharoni>	 Nemo_bis: indeed, these are pretty bad offenders
[11:19:52] <aharoni>	 EducationProgram is one of the few extensions most of which were NOT translated to Hebrew by myself.
[11:20:01] <aharoni>	 and it has a bunch of fans in Israel.
[11:42:13] <Krenair>	 Glaisher, oh hey, someone found https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97864
[11:42:52] <Glaisher>	 oh :P
[11:45:26] <multichill>	 Krenair: Nice to add the person involved :P
[11:47:24] <Krenair>	 I don't know why they added wikitech or LDAP projects, but that's how I was notified of it (I watch wikitech)
[11:48:09] <multichill>	 On and offboarding people seems to be a difficult process in every organization....
[11:49:12] <multichill>	 People seem to be collection more and more hats during their career. Erik is a manageer, why the hell does he have shell access in the first place? :P
[11:49:32] <Krenair>	 multichill, he was once a volunteer, then a MediaWiki developer
[11:50:10] <multichill>	 I know, so the WMF has the problem that most organizations have: When people switch jobs they get more rights, but the rights from the previous role are not removed
[11:50:12] <Krenair>	 Pre-2008-ish. This may have meant he had shell access. Remember just a few years ago users still called the shell users 'devs'
[11:51:24] <multichill>	 I'm not sure if the WMF security policy is based on principle of least privilege
[11:58:06] <Krenair>	 multichill, for instance I have deployment access, but when my WMF contract ends it won't be removed because I'll most likely still be a volunteer (I got access as a volunteer)
[11:58:47] <multichill>	 That makes sense. Did we just have an edit conflict on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97864 ?
[11:58:53] <multichill>	 I didn't remove raymond! :P
[11:59:17] <multichill>	 no more bugzilla mid air collisions? :-(
[11:59:19] <Krenair>	 Yeah
[11:59:26] <Krenair>	 Phabricator does not detect collisions
[11:59:27] <Krenair>	 It's crazy
[11:59:34] <Krenair>	 They don't really seem to think it's important
[12:00:07] <Krenair>	 Eventually someone is going to collide with a visibility policy/security change and there will be trouble.
[12:00:31] <multichill>	 At least phabricator sends out shittons of notifications so it's hard to miss
[12:01:00] <Glaisher>	 How do you disable web notifications on phabricator?
[12:01:18] <Glaisher>	 It's kind of annoying to click on mark all as read everytime
[12:01:41] <Glaisher>	 I don't think it even shows notifications for everything I'm cc'd to
[12:01:52] <Glaisher>	 Is there a preference to change the web notifications?
[12:02:43] <Krenair>	 multichill, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236
[12:02:54] <Krenair>	 -> https://secure.phabricator.com/T4768
[12:03:56] <multichill>	 Great, we have a bug for it. Not going to subscribe to it ;-)
[13:44:06] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; 37.117.249.19; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12097263&oldid=12072784&rcid=6409790
[13:44:24] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Stryn; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/37.117.249.19|37.117.249.19]] ([[User talk:37.117.249.19|talk]]) to last version by Matthew Beta; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12097265&oldid=12097263&rcid=6409792
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