[07:46:38] [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2015]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=11150803&oldid=11140363&rcid=5905768 [13:06:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Reports/Code_review_activity [13:56:15] Is there a way to see a classification of interlanguage links based on quality or some other rank ? [13:56:48] Given an article X I want to see the rank of each interlanguage link it has [13:57:12] to see how article X compares with the other interlanguage links in terms of quality or rank within Wikipedia [13:58:11] Basically, to determine which article is the 'best' to read among the interlanguage links [13:58:28] Quality is arbitary [13:58:37] MediaWiki has no concept of it [13:58:58] can be quantified, i.e. number of words + something + something [13:59:17] 5000 paragraphs of lorem ipsum doesn't make it a good article [13:59:43] sure, but that can be detected [13:59:52] the overall similarity of the txt [13:59:59] within each paragraph etc [14:00:32] something can also be page views [14:01:09] I think there is already a project within Wikimedia that tried/tries to do this [14:02:37] For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris in the language links section it adds a star next to each article which is 'featured' , I wonder how that is determined [14:03:17] some scales I see: 'featured article' 'recommended article' 'good article' [14:07:11] DrSkyLizard, Reedy: interlanguage links are managed on wikidata these days; wikidata has "badges" to mark such links for "featured", etc. [14:09:01] DrSkyLizard: e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10494 [14:09:10] see the qellow badges on the right [14:09:14] *yellow [14:10:48] DrSkyLizard: in the JSON representation, you would have something like: "enwiki":{"site":"enwiki","title":"Alain Prost","badges":["Q17437796"]} [14:10:52] see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10494.json [14:11:13] is that what you were looking for? [14:11:48] btw, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70071 [14:13:02] Nemo_bis: this seems very vague, perhaps add an exampel or two, and explain why it would be useful. [14:13:15] what does mean? [14:14:28] DanielK_WMDE: it's probably useful to read the blocked bug [14:14:42] aka https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Design/Interlanguage_links [14:15:25] Also, AFAIK, ULS doesn't know which languages you know. The only way to declare this right now is Babel boxes, I think. [14:15:45] DanielK_WMDE: yes, thanks :-) ; but now the problem is: among the interlanguage links which is the main/central/primary article to consult [14:16:00] DanielK_WMDE: wrong [14:16:15] Nemo_bis: oh? how does it know? [14:16:18] But I get what you mean [14:17:08] Yes, technically ULS is able to know https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64342 [14:17:10] DrSkyLizard: the one with a "good" batch? and among these, the longest? I'd actually prefer an article in a language i actually understand :) [14:17:19] (which is what Nemo_bis is talking about, I guess) [14:17:37] But you probably mean one of the proposals at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Universal_Language_Selector/Design/Interlanguage_links#User-specific_language_selection [14:17:39] * DanielK_WMDE keeps confusing batch and badge [14:18:26] Indeed, see my last link for what confusion can arise when people try to agree on an universal sorting :P [14:18:48] oh, the Translate extension adds that preference? [14:19:04] bah, now we have two ways to do the same thing [14:19:21] "now" [14:19:28] Translate has had that preference since 2008 IIRC [14:20:11] and Babel boxes have existed for I don't know how long too :) [14:20:14] yay \o/ [14:24:30] DanielK_WMDE: much less actually [14:25:47] Nemo_bis: really? https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:Babel&oldid=198636 [14:26:02] That's still less than Translate [14:26:11] But it was enabled on Wikimedia projects only in 2011 [14:26:26] well, the boxes have been around forever. [14:26:26] And the Wikibase hack is extremely recent history [14:26:37] So what [14:26:39] but i'm not complaining Translate does this. it makes sense of course [14:26:55] it would just be great if the two would integrate [14:27:02] I doubt it [14:27:11] oh, why? [14:27:17] anyway, here goes: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88284?workflow=create [14:28:35] As a translator you can't work with more than a few languages at the same time, however many languages you know [14:29:08] And I use French or Spanish as assistant languages even though I don't know them [14:29:11] yea, i'd use Babel info for the "default" in Translate [14:29:26] any only with values >=2 or >=3. [14:29:40] *shrug* whatever [16:13:45] How I could configure authentication proxy here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Development#Bot_.26_Proxy [16:18:33] How I could config proxy authentication in Pywikibot? [16:20:50] without authentication is proxy = {'host': 'localhost:8080', 'auth': None} [16:20:53] without authentication is proxy = {'host': 'localhost:8080', 'auth': None} [16:27:02] # set ('ID', 'PASSWORD') to proxy['auth']. [19:18:42] harej: welcome [19:18:50] hi photoperson [19:20:30] harej: nice, you know my name