[07:23:54] hi [13:12:17] Annoying that this now looks like a Wikimedia cluster thing rather than a MediaWiki extension https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/analytics-eventlogging/ [13:41:12] Nemo_bis, well, description clearly says "MediaWiki extension"... [13:41:36] so not sure where you get your interpretation from [13:43:57] The tag itself [13:44:56] When I write "EventLogging" in the project selectors, and something without MediaWiki- comes out, I worry that it's the wrong component. So I have to open in a separate page (which btw is not even available with ctrl-click) [13:45:17] Or I'm forced to manually write mediawiki-extensions-eventlogging to ensure it's the right thing [13:49:35] Nemo_bis, the fix might be to somehow show the project description (e.g. in a mouse over), not to rename projects IMO [13:49:55] yes, you are forced to write a project name. no issue in itself :) [15:03:01] Nemo_bis: heh, thanks for reviewing my GCI task. You are fast; I owe you a drink next time :) [15:10:42] :) [15:56:36] harej: I only have 10 minutes while my ex and daughter get their nails done, and I'll put this on-wiki in a reply to your comment when I get home. The diff is {{#target: is raw. MMS will attempt to send to everyone and the only way to stop it is to remove the editor from the list. {{Mailing list member| is customizable [15:57:35] So it adds an additional layer of "send to this user, UNLESS" [15:57:42] It disables it's use of #target after a certain duration definable by each WikiProject, allows users to be listed in a... yes [15:58:01] And adds a consistent appearance for all members [15:58:04] I would consider asking legoktm to make that an actual feature of MassMessage [15:58:22] Rather than a hacky layer on top of it [15:58:38] I'm not opposed to that. [15:59:35] I'll bring it up with legoktm, jackmcbarn, and mzmcbride when the updating script is stable. :) [16:00:36] Hrmm. Interesting... [16:00:49] Let me stew on that more actually... [16:01:31] old hotness: using templates, bots, and custom js to improve on mediawiki's lack of features. new hotness: building features *into* mediawiki [16:01:40] If it's incorporated into the extension, the checks could be done on the backend. [16:02:08] Yeah. Hadn't occurred to me until now [16:02:54] If I know them... I'll be told to code it and submit a pull request... [16:05:01] Anyways... Back to daddy * daughter time.. [18:06:49] Question: Does Echo™ support third party notifications? I.e., can I set up a totally different type of notification that people can sign up for? [18:07:23] If not, will it ever? [18:07:57] harej: you should ask that in #wikimedia-collaboration, I think that's where the experts are [18:08:58] harej: no [18:09:07] and in theory yes but I doubt [18:10:16] Hmm https://old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66275 [18:23:25] Why is there nothing about the deploy stop for the next two weeks in the tech news? [18:25:13] harej: https://old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56362 I think [22:42:57] Death to old-bugzilla. [22:44:05] aww i miss bugzilla [22:44:17] have to learn the query system on phab better :) [22:48:17] brion: there's nothing to learn. it just sucks. :( [22:48:23] heh [22:48:32] brion: okay actually, there is one thing to learn [22:49:11] brion: there are two search forms: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/search/query/advanced/ which really sucks, and which is everywhere in the UI; and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/advanced/ which actually lets you find stuff, and which is hardly linked anywhere [22:49:26] not that different than bz then ;) [22:49:33] once you know this, you know it all. you can do nothing other than what's in these forms. :( [22:50:01] hehe [22:51:47] brion: Thanks for the code review on Deskana's separate out username validation. :-) [22:52:21] I feel like maybe I should leave an encouraging note on the commit. That part of the codebase definitely needs love, but it can be demoralizing to work on. [22:52:26] will push it again if need to :D [22:52:29] yeah [22:52:39] it’s tough to make changes to those scary old code bits that were originally very procedural [22:52:49] hard to tell when behavior is intended and when it’s just ‘how it worked' [22:52:57] he would appreciate a positive word :D