[01:51:50] I've now clicked on Phabricator links on three separate occasions and then cursed at mediawiki.org. [01:52:10] It also took me a minute to figure out why Chrome was overwriting my browser history with mediawiki.org... [01:53:14] yeah I also thought the redirect was a bit strange [01:53:23] better than an error page though, I guess [01:53:38] I guess. [01:53:56] Anyway, I'm ready for Phabricator's return. I have snark and sass queued. [01:54:08] And probably some smarm, who knows. [01:54:37] I have some constructive fixes and comments queued. :) [01:56:02] :-) [02:03:19] Okay, four times now. [02:03:31] I need to stop reading scrollback. [02:08:49] <^d> Mash F5 until it comes back [02:21:20] F5 seems to be unassigned on my Mac. ;-) [02:22:06] fiona, do you have a backlit keyboard? [02:22:15] No. [02:22:21] Not on my desktop machine, anyway. [02:22:27] I think my travel laptop has one. [02:39:58] <^d> Fiona: System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Use F1, etc as Standard Function Keys ;-) [03:02:08] [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2014]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10779526&oldid=10755317&rcid=5785902 [11:53:02] Hey we've got a problem with the results from the server: When we use api.php with query+generator we assume that when there is no 'query' entry in the result that the query finished. But at some point Wikipedia started to add no 'query' entry even if the query wasn't finished [11:55:26] I'm not sure if the last message came through: [11:55:27] Hey we've got a problem with the results from the server: When we use api.php with query+generator we assume that when there is no 'query' entry in the result that the query finished. But at some point Wikipedia started to add no 'query' entry even if the query wasn't finished [11:55:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&generator=categorymembers&gcmtitle=Category:Female%20Wikipedians&gcmnamespace=14&continue= is returning nothing [11:58:18] Although maybe my assumption is wrong: http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/w/api.php?action=query&generator=categorymembers&gcmtitle=Category:Templates&gcmnamespace=10&gcmlimit=1&continue= returns a page but http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/w/api.php?action=query&generator=categorymembers&gcmtitle=Category:Templates&gcmnamespace=42&gcmlimit=1&continue= does at well [11:58:25] Ehr [11:58:42] http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/w/api.php?action=query&generator=categorymembers&gcmtitle=Category:Templates&gcmnamespace=14&gcmlimit=1&continue= is the correct second request [11:59:06] what I'm trying to say is: In older versions of MediaWiki we didn't get empty results before we got actual results [11:59:43] and the generator isn't adding an empty query entry when there are no results [11:59:55] but to be honest I'm not sure if this is a categorymembers only problem [13:21:09] any reports about the file description page on Commons causing Firefox and Seamonkey to quit unexpectedly ? [13:21:40] I haven't heard of any [13:25:13] JollyOldStNick, I tried it on FF34 and it does not crash [14:41:42] xzise: File a ticket at phabricator.wikimedia.org if you think there's a bug. [14:42:21] !op ignossi is PM spamming. [14:42:43] Before I do that I want to verify that it is [14:42:56] (and older versions returned an empty 'query' block) [14:43:15] Why are you using a generator? [14:43:30] You just want a list of category members? [14:44:19] It's a simplified command used by pywikibot [14:44:36] pywikibot itself also get the page props [14:44:41] (with that generator) [14:44:58] Is pywikibot failing? [14:45:18] Like when it tries to get categorymembers + pageprops, does that work? [14:45:58] sort of: it tries to get the subcategories but because no category is returned (and therefore no query-entry) it thinks it can stop the iteration [14:46:12] That's why I'm not sure if it's a MW bug or if it's 'intended' [14:46:31] It doesn't hurt to file a ticket. If it's not a bug, someone will just say so. [14:46:51] I don't know enough about generator behavior to say for sure. [14:48:27] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api-announce/2014-September/000068.html [14:48:37] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api-announce/2014-September/000069.html [14:48:47] Both of those may be of interest, if you're not subscribed to that mailing list. [14:50:41] I'm not, but at least the second isn't reall important for that because also query-continue doesn't return a query-entry [14:50:44] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&generator=categorymembers&gcmtitle=Category:Female%20Wikipedians&gcmnamespace=14&rawcontinue= [14:51:30] Thing is it's already on 1.21 so: http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/w/api.php?action=query&generator=categorymembers&gcmtitle=Category:Templates&gcmnamespace=1&gcmlimit=1&format=jsonfm [14:51:48] SO I'd guess there is no bug (at least not in MediaWiki but then in pywikibot) [14:55:01] Thanks for your help bug filing a bug won't solve the problems with other wikis so pywikibot needs to handle it anyway [16:53:22] It's nice that for one French lost, we gained a new one :) https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-December/079859.html [16:53:47] ...who did we lose? [16:54:23] France-based, I mean [16:59:54] Yes, but...who did we lose? I don't...whatever [17:42:56] Fiona: re your earlier ping, aren't you an op yourself? :D [19:17:27] marktraceur: they lost guillom [20:08:01] good to know that guillom's memorable [20:45:56] Uh, so "tech lead" is now a thing https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Engineering/Careers&diff=0&oldid=1055548 [20:47:23] <^d> Nemo_bis: Titles are really important to some people. [20:47:31] <^d> I personally prefer Grand Pubah :) [20:47:44] <^d> Way more interesting than just being some lead :P [20:50:18] hehe [22:27:59] evening [22:29:04] I opened a private request on bugzilla about a year ago. I can't access it these days now that it has changed to Phabricator. How can I have access back? [22:29:32] a private request, as in a security report? [22:30:41] yes [22:31:07] Teles: A) make sure you have an account in Phabricator 9they weren't automatically created) and that it uses your same email address that you used in BZ [22:31:22] (there is no B, I guess) [22:31:32] heh [22:31:35] it is done :) [22:32:08] Teles: as in? it works now? or you made your account with the same email address and it didn't work? [22:32:29] I made with same mail and it didn't work [22:32:49] how long ago? [22:33:01] not too long. A few days [22:33:14] hmm [22:34:46] I would ping andre__, but he isn't here [22:35:25] I also had this problem https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720 [22:36:46] Teles: I hate to say it, but, filing a bug, er task about this might get th ebest response [22:37:28] I wonder if anyone with access to the ticket can subscribe me [22:37:46] that would be a simple solution... if possible [22:38:24] what is it? [22:40:07] I mean, to make a security report visible to somebody we just need to subscribe his/her mail address... right? [22:40:16] Teles: yes / it's complicated [22:40:25] do you have the bug number handy? [22:40:29] yes [22:41:07] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54975 [22:41:19] I am the author [22:41:28] IIRC [22:42:18] Teles: security bugs are normally not visible to people cc'd on it (that's a phabricator bug), but are visible to the task creator [22:42:40] Teles: however, it seems that tasks imported from bugzilla have the import bot as the creator rather than the true one [22:42:52] i fixed it for this bug [22:43:22] understood [22:43:42] MatmaRex: I have access now after your changes :) [22:43:55] (i basically did a "null edit" of sorts :) ) [22:44:13] null edit rules [22:44:21] thanks everyone! [23:10:42] QueenOfFrance: Not in here. :-( [23:17:45] guillom, hi, the RT migration blog post is ready to be reviewed: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Wikimedia_Operations_joins_the_Phabricator_party [23:18:16] guillom, (I have pinged tbayer and you in the related Phabricator task, but I don't know how close attention are you paying to these notifications) :) [23:18:17] qgil: when would you like it to be published? [23:18:27] qgil: In a nutshell: I don't :) [23:18:36] guillom, whenever suits you best [23:19:04] guillom, my instinct told me to ping you on IRC for a reason :) [23:19:17] qgil: I may be able to publish it tomorrow, but I'm not sure. Is next week a problem? [23:19:39] no, only that "this week" should say "last week" then :) [23:19:46] I was late myself writing it [23:19:49] heh [23:20:12] I'll try for tomorrow; should be doable :) [23:20:18] thank you [23:20:22] sure :) [23:30:30] Fiona: I could have sworn you did, anyway, handled. [23:33:58] It's silly that I don't.