[00:08:03] <quiddity>	 What's the use-case for turning off subpages in a namespace?
[00:09:00] <quiddity>	 Oh, for article titles with a "/".  nvm!
[00:10:48] <Platonides>	 right
[01:36:11] <Fiona>	 Nemo_bis: What are you using it for?
[04:19:26] <revent>	 Anyone awake? Wierd technical drama.
[04:19:44] <revent>	 On commons, I (and other people) can edit a specific file page, but adding the text “{{duplicate|Ham the chimp (cropped).jpg}}” gives a 503 error.
[04:20:01] <revent>	 Request: POST http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Ham_the_chimp.jpg&action=submit, from 10.64.0.102 via cp1054 cp1054 ([10.64.32.106]:3128), Varnish XID 609151085
[04:20:09] <revent>	 Forwarded for: 198.45.215.17, 10.64.0.102, 10.64.0.102
[04:20:19] <revent>	 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:11:40 GMT
[04:20:49] <revent>	 Can edit other pages, or made dummy edits to that page, just /not/ add the template.
[04:34:39] <Fiona>	 Spammer. :P
[04:36:20] <revent>	 Fiona: Sorry. :P I did wait ove half an hour, didn’t know if this was more active.
[04:36:59] <Fiona>	 Some shell user can presumably find the exception in the logs.
[04:37:04] <Fiona>	 And we'll know what's going on, maybe.
[04:43:17] <revent>	 T78116
[04:44:12] <Fiona>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78116
[04:45:10] <revent>	 Dunno about projects and all that. :)
[04:46:08] <Fiona>	 Cool, thanks for filing.
[06:02:01] <Nemo_bis>	 Fiona: old-bugzilla?
[06:08:55] <Bsadowski1>	 yeah
[06:09:00] <Bsadowski1>	 It's not new you know
[06:09:08] <Bsadowski1>	 Oh sorry.
[06:09:13] <Bsadowski1>	 Hey Nemo_bis :)
[06:29:29] <Nemo_bis>	 Hi Bsadowski1 
[06:43:57] <Nemo_bis>	 Can someone grep -c the logs for 503 errors upon action=submitlogin&type=login? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75462
[06:45:24] <falcus>	 After loggin in, I can't access some files, is this related to above bug?
[06:45:30] <falcus>	 Example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DeEenzamenPost.gif
[06:48:39] <Nemo_bis>	 Sounds unlikely but might be
[06:49:23] <Nemo_bis>	 falcus: can you please file that separately? Here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=PHID-PROJ-zzrjtteirp26edm3lj7p
[06:50:05] <Nemo_bis>	 action=purge didn't help, null edit fails
[06:58:48] <falcus>	 wget https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DeEenzamenPost.gif
[06:59:00] <falcus>	 gives after purging even for IPs
[06:59:01] <falcus>	 2014-12-09 22:58:29 ERROR 503: Service Unavailable.
[07:00:34] <Nemo_bis>	 ugh
[07:00:48] <Nemo_bis>	 So instead of cleaning up the purge polluted caches further?
[07:07:36] <falcus>	 I think there is a different cache for logged in users and IPs... And logging in may have triggered a purge...
[07:08:37] <falcus>	 It's interesting, though, only 9 gif files seem to be affected.
[07:09:20] <Nemo_bis>	 How do you know tgat
[07:10:11] <falcus>	 Couldn't find another instance... ;)
[07:10:15] <falcus>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/GifTagger&dir=prev&offset=20141208115404&limit=18&target=GifTagger
[07:10:30] <falcus>	 (The 9 edits on the gif files)
[07:32:24] <Nemo_bis>	 _joe_: maybe you can grep the logs per above?
[07:32:54] <Nemo_bis>	 (Would be useful to know how widespread the problem actually is...)
[07:35:01] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: mmmh one sec
[07:35:06] <_joe_>	 and I'll take a look
[07:36:27] <Nemo_bis>	 thanks
[07:37:22] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: not grepping the log, I want to understand what happens here, I have an idea
[07:42:30] <_joe_>	 falcus, Nemo_bis - actually a fatal error in production, thanks for spotting this, we're working on it
[07:55:30] <Nemo_bis>	 _joe_: great; same error behind the 503s on file visit and login?
[07:56:27] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: what urls, sorry?
[07:56:32] * _joe_ needs coffeee
[07:56:36] <_joe_>	 but I think so, yes
[07:57:12] <Nemo_bis>	 ok
[07:57:54] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: if you have the urls, that would help a lot
[07:59:16] <Nemo_bis>	 _joe_: Sure, I just don't want to slow you down, working on one fix at a time is good :)
[07:59:23] <Nemo_bis>	 For login, IMHO you can only look for "&action=submitlogin&type=login"
[08:00:05] <Nemo_bis>	 Because the rest of the URL varies across domains, w/index.php?title=Toiminnot:Kirjaudu_sis%C3%A4%C3%A4n in Finnish etc. &returnto=Wikipedia:Etusivu depends on page
[08:02:30] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: devs are actually working on a fix :P
[08:03:37] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: what's the problem with login, sorry?
[08:03:41] <Nemo_bis>	 Ugh, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RandomInCategory/DuplicatePNG seems to consistently show the error
[08:04:07] <Nemo_bis>	 _joe_: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75462 , submitting the login form gets a 503
[08:04:19] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: File:whatever.jpg is broken, and not HHVM related
[08:05:12] <Nemo_bis>	 ok
[08:05:14] <_joe_>	 Nemo_bis: "Same problem is not there in IE or Opera."?
[08:05:56] <_joe_>	 ok no, it's user related, nothing I can really help with
[08:06:39] <Nemo_bis>	 _joe_: happens in any browser, several users, several wikis
[08:07:30] <Nemo_bis>	 But we don't know how often, hence I asked some log counting for action=submitlogin&type=login 503s to verify
[08:11:04] <_joe_>	 ok, not now sorry
[08:25:25] <falcus>	 _joe_, is there an eta? (Only roughly: hours/days?)
[08:25:43] <Nemo_bis>	 Minutes, possibly
[08:26:40] <Nemo_bis>	 (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/178791/ )
[08:28:42] <_joe_>	 falcus: for images?
[08:28:46] <_joe_>	 it's solved, sorry
[08:28:48] <_joe_>	 it should be
[08:29:24] <_joe_>	 mmmh still failing
[08:29:26] <_joe_>	 1 sec
[08:39:59] <_joe_>	 falcus: fixed
[08:40:31] <falcus>	 Ok, thank you!
[14:21:58] <Fiona>	 Hmm.
[14:23:22] <comets>	 indeed.
[16:11:33] <Ks0stm>	 Hey y'all, just to let you know I got an error page saying "503 Service Temporarily Unavailable", though after I waited a minute or so and refreshed it loaded the page fine. 
[16:42:00] <valhallasw`cloud>	 Ks0stm: thanks :-) Probably just a transient fluke, then.
[16:42:20] <Ks0stm>	 No problem!
[19:28:29] <paravoid>	 gwicke, awjr et al: I think what we actually need is a custom field that allows tags as values and has typeahead
[19:28:46] <paravoid>	 the docs suggest there is a "users" custom field that does typeahead
[19:29:01] <paravoid>	 I wonder how difficult it would be for upstream phabricator to add something like that
[19:44:25] <gwicke>	 paravoid: I'm pretty happy with tags as they are
[19:44:43] <gwicke>	 my main gripes are around watching & subscriptions being limited to members
[19:45:16] <gwicke>	 paravoid: which advantage do you see with a separate field?
[19:46:32] <awjr>	 we could also conceivably slap together an extension (or whatever it's called) for phab that would allow to more explicitly map dependencies, and view them in a matrix like we had with mingle
[21:43:39] <yannf>	 hi
[21:43:58] <yannf>	 Monobook is again broken
[21:44:07] <yannf>	 2nd time this week
[21:44:23] <yannf>	 on Commons
[21:45:18] <yannf>	 i.e. most gadgets tabs/links disappeared :(
[21:48:30] <Krenair>	 yannf, details?
[21:49:04] <yannf>	 tabs/links for several gadgets disappeared
[21:49:44] <yannf>	 now it is back
[21:50:00] <yannf>	 after changing to Vector, and then back to Monobook
[21:50:09] <hoo>	 legoktm: ^
[21:51:47] <yannf>	 it happened Monday
[21:51:50] <yannf>	 also
[21:56:45] <the_nobodies>	 yannf, works for me - maybe, some gadget?
[21:57:07] <yannf>	 as I said
[21:57:11] <yannf>	 now it is back
[21:57:15] <yannf>	 after changing to Vector, and then back to Monobook
[21:57:36] <the_nobodies>	 what browser? anything in error console?
[21:57:38] <yannf>	 I didn't change any gadget settings
[21:57:47] <yannf>	 Chrome on Window
[22:04:45] <legoktm>	 yannf: is there anything in your error console?
[22:05:14] <yannf>	 Failed to load resource: net::ERR_FAILED
[22:05:30] <yannf>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListFiles&user=Ctruongngoc
[22:05:46] <yannf>	 Failed to load resource: net::ERR_FAILED
[22:05:56] <yannf>	 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:DR