[01:20:21] I think it would be a good idea if adding and removing categories would produce logs on the category page [01:20:32] should be trivial to implement [01:21:12] vandalising categories is barely visible atm [01:23:25] gde33, are you a MediaWiki developer? [01:23:37] no [01:23:52] gde33, then please refrain from speculating on what is and what isn't trivial to implement. [01:25:10] as it is already producing a log entry for the page, it shouldnt be to hard to copy the information to the other log, along with the name of the page [01:25:55] It's producing log entries showing addition and removal of categories? [01:26:29] Because I'm pretty sure it's just "page was edited" logs [01:27:09] some automatic edit summary would be nice too [01:27:20] there are some flags I believe? [01:27:24] or what are they called [01:28:50] I mean "trivial to implement" compared to trying to figure out what pages lost a category. [01:29:16] I have no idea how one should go about doing that, other than saving a page it seems impossible. [01:31:21] the log may also provide insight in what was previously removed from it [01:33:23] say for example a technical set of pages could have editors adding peoples names repeatedly without ever knowing it happened before [01:36:51] gde33, there are edit tags that can be added by MW extensions (and E:AbuseFilter exposes this functionality to its filters) [01:38:01] I'm mostly reading wikipedia [01:39:08] How would you define a log if it doesnt log what happens on a page? [01:39:36] you mean the page history? [01:39:49] yes, the categories have almost nothing there. [01:40:07] it's completely unaware of wikitext [01:40:13] exactly [01:40:28] and it's not about to become aware of it [01:40:46] it is broken if you like [01:40:55] what's broken about it? [01:41:08] it provides no useful information about the history of the page [01:41:45] no useful information? [01:43:26] I think if you wanted to analyse each edit and product a long list of semantic differences in the history, lots of page history entries would become very bloated [01:46:02] could have 1 entry when a category is added, one when it is removed, one when the page is moved and one when the target is deleted. [01:46:05] wouldn't be that much [01:46:50] a bit like the user edit history [02:01:12] anyway, good luck. [03:04:41] is it possible to remove VE for good and bring back the "delete" tab to the main page instead of a drop down menu? [06:22:14] comets: you can just disable VE in your preferences, or switch to monobook ;) [08:59:33] done both, but 'delete' still in a drop down menu :\ [09:00:01] * comets only uses monobook.... [09:00:14] Monobook 4 LYF \o/ [13:15:26] First read "grinch" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/finch/ [21:59:22] [[Tech]]; 195.64.208.236; /* The problem with adding a coordinate */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10708244&oldid=10702399&rcid=5760855