[01:02:52] <paravoid>	 Someguy123: ping
[01:03:15] <paravoid>	 Someguy123: I'm with the operations team here at the WMF and got your email to ops-requests
[01:04:14] <paravoid>	 Someguy123: I have an idea what that issue could be but I'd like some more data; the traceroutes were nice but unfortunately don't give the complete picture :(
[05:57:28] <Nemo_bis>	 manybubbles: are search suggestions disabled on beta.wmflabs.org? I can't get suggestions for "Category:" nor for "A" (except exact match for [[A]])
[05:57:32] <Nemo_bis>	 http://simple.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org
[06:31:58] <Reedy>	 Nemo_bis: I think search might be broken
[06:31:59] <Reedy>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72332
[06:51:29] <Nemo_bis>	 makes sense
[07:57:24] <Nemo_bis>	 What causes this sort of issues (which a purge fixes, but an edit doesn't)? http://i.imgur.com/t9hrmlZ.png
[08:17:43] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2014]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10281470&oldid=10260093&rcid=5673868
[14:28:53] <Jan_Ainali>	 I am trying to upload a video to Commons, but it never finishes, even though it says "Finished!" I tried different browsers and computers. Are there issues on Commons now?
[14:30:11] <whym>	 Jan_Ainali: which browser?
[14:30:22] <MARKTRACEUR>	 Jan_Ainali: Reported in -commons too
[14:30:42] <Jan_Ainali>	 whym: I tried Chrome, Chromium and Firefox
[14:30:44] <MARKTRACEUR>	 odder is using IceWeasel and got that issue
[14:31:16] <MARKTRACEUR>	 Jan_Ainali: Are you using Firefogg?
[14:31:27] <MARKTRACEUR>	 Oh, no, because Chrome.
[14:31:27] <MARKTRACEUR>	 OK
[14:31:33] <Jan_Ainali>	 MARKTRACEUR: No, I am just uploading a webm file
[14:32:35] <MARKTRACEUR>	 OK
[14:33:03] <whym>	 Jan_Ainali: maybe you can try checking the chunked upload at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-uploads ?
[14:34:50] <Jan_Ainali>	 whym: I do have it checked already. Perhaps I should try unchecking it
[14:35:41] <MARKTRACEUR>	 That might be it
[14:36:47] <Jan_Ainali>	 It actually worked when unchecking it
[14:37:31] <Jan_Ainali>	 Luckily the video was only 27 MB
[14:37:45] <MARKTRACEUR>	 Yeah
[14:37:55] <MARKTRACEUR>	 odder's is 104MB, so we have a bigger battle ahead there
[16:24:00] <rija>	 Hello
[17:25:15] <Someguy123>	 hey paravoid I'm here now
[17:25:34] <Someguy123>	 if you're here, you can PM me with what I need to provide, and I'll do my best to provide it
[17:25:44] <paravoid>	 Someguy123: I'm about to jump into a meeting
[17:25:51] <paravoid>	 are you experiencing an issue now?
[17:26:04] <Someguy123>	 testing...
[17:26:13] <Someguy123>	 nope. let me check packet loss though
[17:26:17] <paravoid>	 packet loss on traceroute is expected
[17:26:23] <paravoid>	 and it's not indicative of a problem
[17:26:25] <Someguy123>	 last time it suddenly started working at 10 PM, but the packet loss continued
[17:26:44] <paravoid>	 we only care if you see packet loss with our servers, not the intermediate hops
[17:27:30] <Someguy123>	 paravoid, I believe it may be time related, or just completely random
[17:27:45] <Someguy123>	 but it has consistently been a problem for the past few weeks, and nobody here seems to be able to do anything about it
[17:28:38] <paravoid>	 weeks?
[17:28:59] <paravoid>	 we haven't heard anything from anyone else, so I'd bet against some generalized issue
[17:29:06] <paravoid>	 it's probably localized to your ISP, have you tried contacting them?
[17:35:22] <Nemo_bis>	 I never heard of an ISP which acts on networking issues :P
[17:36:06] <Nemo_bis>	 Unless you can certify they are violating some law (which is possible, in Europe, but not so easy)
[17:40:43] <paravoid>	 I have
[17:44:19] <Someguy123>	 paravoid, my ISP is EE, they're well known for terrible customer support, insecure routers, and refusing to fix faults on their network
[17:44:26] <Someguy123>	 right now they're doing something weird with wikipedia
[17:44:51] <Someguy123>	 nothing is affected other than wikipedia at random times. I've had zero problems with streaming, youtube, skype etc. which are the ones that should be affected
[17:45:14] <paravoid>	 are you reaching our US DC?
[17:45:20] <paravoid>	 I saw a traceroute to bits-lb.eqiad
[17:45:39] <Someguy123>	 paravoid, both. 
[17:45:43] <Someguy123>	 both have the same exact issue
[17:45:56] <Someguy123>	 so for whatever reason, it's targetting wikimedia, not just a specific DC
[17:48:32] <Nemo_bis>	 the new frontier of net neutrality: neutral customer support :P
[18:01:59] <paravoid>	 Someguy123: both the forward & reverse traceroutes go via entirely different paths to the two DCs
[18:02:34] <paravoid>	 Someguy123: if you're experiencing issues with both, then either it's not networking that is at fault, or it's something very far from our networks and close to your ISP's network
[18:03:11] <paravoid>	 if it was somewhere in the middle, I could have tried switching paths, just in case
[18:03:35] <paravoid>	 but right now it's just two completely distinct separate paths going via different infrastructure altogether
[18:03:42] <paravoid>	 so it sounds like the issue is very local to your ISP
[18:05:14] <paravoid>	 amsterdam->you goes via tele2 ams/deutsche telekom paris; ashburn->you goes via GTT to Paris, and then Orange France/UK
[18:05:25] <paravoid>	 your screenshots indicate that
[18:05:49] <paravoid>	 you->amsterdam goes via init7, and you->ashburn goes via NTT
[18:06:01] <paravoid>	 so, not much I can do I'm afraid :(
[18:22:12] <Someguy123>	 paravoid, not entirely sure how to get anyone with information at my ISP
[18:22:24] <Someguy123>	 I called like 5 times and used their live chat several times to ask about IPv6
[18:22:31] <paravoid>	 do you have IPv6?
[18:22:38] <Someguy123>	 every person thought I was talking about the iPhone 6
[18:22:47] <Someguy123>	 and I couldn't get them to put me onto anyone with any information
[18:22:47] <paravoid>	 it sounds to me like you need to switch ISPs
[18:23:05] <Someguy123>	 sadly, this is the cheapest and fastest in my area
[18:23:23] <Someguy123>	 we pay less than $20/mo for 6mbit (which is the max my line can get sadly)
[18:23:34] <Someguy123>	 inc. line rental+uk calls
[18:24:31] <Someguy123>	 clearly I'm just going to have to start using a VPN for access wikipedia :| since I find it impossible to actually get anyone with the slightest knowledge about technology at my ISP
[18:37:12] <Dereckson>	 Hi. There are some Commons issue with thumbnail paths on the following media:
[18:37:57] <Dereckson>	 er wait, I think thumb.php worked on Commons, but not on local project.
[18:38:02] <Dereckson>	 Retrying.
[18:38:56] <Dereckson>	 Okay so issue is for two medias, thumbnails work on Commons, but not on remote wiki.
[18:39:02] <Dereckson>	 * https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Gravure_repr%C3%A9sentant_le_tableau_de_Fran%C3%A7ois_G%C3%A9rard,_%22Le_sacre_de_Charles_X_%C3%A0_Reims,_le_29_mai_1825%22_1_-_Archives_Nationales_-_AE-II-3886.jpg
[18:39:27] <Dereckson>	 * https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Les_derni%C3%A8res_notes_r%C3%A9dig%C3%A9es_par_Robespierre,_saisies_chez_lui_le_jour_de_son_ex%C3%A9cution_34_sur_34_-_Archives_Nationales_-_AE-II-1419_pi%C3%A8ce_a_et_f.jpg
[18:39:42] <Dereckson>	 error is The given path of the specified thumbnail is incorrect
[18:40:49] <Dereckson>	 instead to return 511px-Les_dernières_notes_rédigées_par_Robespierre,_saisies_chez_lui_le_jour_de_son_exécution_34_sur_34_-_Archives_Nationales_-_AE-II-1419_pièce_a_et_f.jpg as filename it seems to ignore the image file and return 511px-thumbnail.jpg
[20:10:28] <lbertolotti>	 is there any official guide for writing a wiki bot?
[20:11:22] <bd808>	 lbertolotti: Maybe https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_a_bot is what you are looking for?
[20:12:18] <lbertolotti>	 it shouldn't be very complicated
[20:12:54] <lbertolotti>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Business_and_economics#Bot_malfunction
[20:16:41] <lbertolotti>	 has anyone here written a bot before?
[20:19:24] <Krenair>	 Yes.
[20:38:51] <Pamphagus>	 hello everyone, I hae a question please: I am making my own wikimedia site and want to know if there is a native app i can use to aces it on android (like the official wikipedia app)
[20:39:12] <Pamphagus>	 sorry for type, small netbook
[20:39:36] <Pamphagus>	 *typo
[20:39:38] <mutante>	 Pamphagus: i'd know the answer for the commons app, not sure about wp app
[20:39:59] <Pamphagus>	 mutante: what commons app?
[20:40:00] <mutante>	 Pamphagus: i onced took the commons app and just made a minor change for the upload server name, and then i could use it for my own wiki
[20:40:08] <mutante>	 for taking pictures and uploading them to your wiki
[20:40:28] <mutante>	 try #wikimedia-mobile
[20:40:36] <Pamphagus>	 thanks will do!
[20:41:32] <mutante>	 Pamphagus: i meant this one https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Commons#Status