[00:10:27] <darkweasel>	 i just started getting 403 responses for (apparently) all page loads on WMF sites
[00:10:30] <Reedy>	 yup
[00:10:33] <Reedy>	 being fixed
[00:10:35] <Reedy>	 hang tight
[00:10:36] <darkweasel>	 ok
[00:10:55] <darkweasel>	 works now
[01:02:29] <se4598>	 Does https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:NewMessages look to anyone else also like mobile and/or skin fail (bottom part)?
[01:04:49] <se4598>	 hm, suddenly back to normal
[01:09:13] <se4598>	 whoa, the skin bug came back, but this time on a random wiki page
[06:23:05] <Nemo_bis>	 lol useless role-seeking forwards https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-September/078823.html
[12:04:49] * Zhaofeng_Li just did https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/163830/
[13:04:03] <Nemo_bis>	 congrats
[15:54:07] <FDMS>	 manybubbles: Do wildcard searches still work in Cirrus? If not, could you check if more is wrong in [[c:MediaWiki:Searchmenu-new]]?
[18:04:25] <sjoerddebruin>	 oops
[18:04:33] <sjoerddebruin>	 who broke it? :)
[18:05:08] <TBloemink>	 http://gyazo.com/ff2778891d9219529769fd91ef1aac6e I am getting this
[18:05:35] <Glaisher>	 working for me now
[18:05:45] <TBloemink>	 for me too
[18:05:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 weird
[19:50:04] <akoopal>	 hi, erwins tools, which I took over on tool labs use https://bits.wikimedia.org/wiki/static-current/skins/common/shared.css which is giving a 404 now
[19:50:11] <akoopal>	 has that been moved or something?
[19:59:03] <Nemo_bis>	 Reedy: are we/you still on time for a followup config patch?
[19:59:15] <Nemo_bis>	 akoopal: yes, they're moved all the time
[20:13:21] <akoopal>	 Nemo_bis: 
[20:14:10] <akoopal>	 do you know the new location
[20:14:33] <Nemo_bis>	 no, it's like chasing flies
[20:16:25] <akoopal>	 hoped a root could do locate for me :-)
[20:16:44] <MatmaRex>	 akoopal: you mustn't depend on the URLs to internal mediawiki files
[20:16:59] <MatmaRex>	 akoopal: let me find a copy of this one
[20:17:23] <MatmaRex>	 akoopal: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/resources/src/mediawiki.legacy/shared.css
[20:17:49] <MatmaRex>	 akoopal: copy, paste, keep forever
[20:17:49] <akoopal>	 thanks
[20:18:00] <MatmaRex>	 update from time to time if you care :)
[20:56:04] <akoopal>	 MatmaRex: hmm, doesn't solve it yet, don't see 404's anymore, but the layout is still terrible :-(
[20:56:40] <MatmaRex>	 i don't even know what tools you're talking about
[20:57:01] <akoopal>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/erwin85/relatedchanges.php
[20:57:33] <akoopal>	 erwin used old monobook style for the layout
[20:59:01] <MatmaRex>	 no idea why it's broken
[20:59:19] <MatmaRex>	 probably someone changed monobook's HTML in the meantime, and changed the styles to match
[20:59:31] <MatmaRex>	 while the tool still has the same that it had whenever it was created
[20:59:44] <MatmaRex>	 so mixed with contemporary styles, i'm not surprised it explodes
[20:59:57] <akoopal>	 joy :-(
[21:00:03] <MatmaRex>	 i don't know why people insist on doing that, and then are all very surprised when it goes to hell
[21:00:41] <MatmaRex>	 akoopal: have you considered just removing all styles? it looks better that way
[21:01:53] <akoopal>	 makes it terrible due to the menu
[21:21:38] <sjoerddebruin>	 You could just transform everything to bootstrap.
[21:21:58] <marktraceur>	 !skin Bootstrap
[21:22:02] <marktraceur>	 It exists.
[21:22:15] <Nemo_bis>	 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
[21:22:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yup
[21:22:39] <TBloemink>	 I just got a wm error
[21:22:39] <akoopal>	 sjoerddebruin: talking to me?
[21:22:46] <sjoerddebruin>	 akoopal: Ja. :)
[21:22:56] <akoopal>	 don't really know css
[21:23:12] <akoopal>	 I am just a poor sysadmin, not a webdeveloper :-)
[21:23:14] <sjoerddebruin>	 You don't need to learn CSS for that.
[21:23:15] <Nemo_bis>	 I'm not alone https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/reqerror/
[21:23:23] <sjoerddebruin>	 oh dear.
[21:23:44] <Nemo_bis>	 !log widespread reproducible 503 errors on wikidata and elsewhere
[21:23:49] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[21:24:00] <akoopal>	 I just hoped to find the right shared.css from bits that was moved again
[21:24:19] <Nemo_bis>	 for me it was https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ValterVB&action=edit&section=new btw
[21:25:41] <Nemo_bis>	 now my edit went through at 4th try
[21:26:01] <Nemo_bis>	 so maybe it's only a 75 % failure rate ;)
[21:34:10] <akoopal>	 filed a bug for it, maybe somebody else has an idea
[23:02:32] <Wilddog73>	 Hello.
[23:02:41] <Dragonfly6-7>	 Wilddog73 - you wanted to ask questions about Flow, yes?
[23:02:51] <Wilddog73>	 Yes.
[23:03:15] <Wilddog73>	 I was tempted to scream "OH GOD, IT'S HORRIBLE!" when I came in. xD
[23:03:48] <chrismcmahon>	 whois Wilddog73
[23:04:07] <chrismcmahon>	 Wilddog73: what's the question? 
[23:04:17] <Wilddog73>	 I forgot. Sorry.
[23:04:26] <Dragonfly6-7>	 chrismcmahon - he's been asking questions on #wikipedia-en-help for the past while, about why the WMF doesn't implement a chat service on all pages
[23:04:32] <Dragonfly6-7>	 Wilddog73 - you wanted to know what Flow looks like, yes?
[23:04:40] <Wilddog73>	 Yes.
[23:04:57] <Dragonfly6-7>	 can you perhaps explain to him why that's not really feasible
[23:05:16] <Wilddog73>	 It's just, whenever I meet someone named Chris, I'm stunned in awe
[23:05:23] <Wilddog73>	 And tend to forget certain things.
[23:05:45] <chrismcmahon>	 Wilddog73:  this is one place to look: https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flow_QA
[23:06:28] <Wilddog73>	 Oh God, it's horrible!
[23:06:33] <Wilddog73>	 Turn it off!
[23:07:12] <chrismcmahon>	 Wilddog73: it's not done yet
[23:07:36] <Wilddog73>	 Oh.
[23:07:42] <Wilddog73>	 Alright. Thanks.