[01:38:15] Regarding the Android app, I wonder if you can provide an option to turn on SSL fallback (getSslFallback() is currently hardcoded to return false) for countries with the mobile site blocked (e.g. China). [01:41:41] Zhaofeng_Li: That sounds like a reasonable idea to me, but I don't work on the mobile app so I've emailed your recommendation to the product manager for the app [01:42:01] RoanKattouw: Thanks [01:42:06] (It's Friday evening in San Francisco so most Wikimedia staff have gone home; I wonder why I'm still working :) ) [01:43:12] Maybe I can do it, but I'm not sure. [01:43:17] * Zhaofeng_Li sucks at Java [01:44:45] Yeah me too [01:44:54] Well patches are always welcome :) [01:45:33] And Dan (product manager for the mobile app) sometimes writes simple(-ish) patches to the app on the weekend [01:45:55] So maybe he'll pick it up, or maybe he'll assign it to one of his engineers [01:46:11] Alright. [14:54:36] [[Tech]]; 123.120.208.223; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10021717&oldid=10005188&rcid=5622112 [14:54:57] [[Tech]]; Sjoerddebruin; Undo revision 10021717 by [[Special:Contributions/123.120.208.223|123.120.208.223]] ([[User talk:123.120.208.223|talk]]); https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10021720&oldid=10021717&rcid=5622113 [15:50:19] Is there something special I have to know to connect to irc.wikimedia.org? I'm able to connect to irc.wikimedia.org from Tool Labs, but I'm not able to connect to irc.wikimedia.org from my home PC (neither with my own program nor with my normal IRC client). [15:54:38] apper, what error do you get then? [15:57:00] I'm not even able to connect - the TCP connection is refused. My IRC client just disconnects and using C# for example even the line client.Connect("irc.wikimedia.org", 6667); gets an SocketError (Connection refused; client is a TcpClient). [15:57:24] can you ping it? [15:57:34] this is the most simple one-liner, the same line works on tool labs [15:57:39] yes, I'm able to ping irc.wikimedia.org [15:57:46] it seems to be a TCP problem [15:57:49] what if you try to telnet to that port? [15:58:00] can you log in that way? [15:59:13] "Verbindungsaufbau zu irc.wikimedia.org...Es konnte keine Verbindung mit dem Host hergestellt werden, auf Port 6667: Verbindungsfehler" [15:59:18] no, doesn't work either [15:59:22] so only "connection error" [15:59:26] no further details [15:59:50] this way works for freenode, too - but again not for irc.wikimedia.org [15:59:55] what do you get from nslookup? [16:01:14] Name: argon.wikimedia.org [16:01:14] Address: 208.80.154.160 [16:01:14] Aliases: irc.wikimedia.org [16:01:51] it's the same server as on tool labs, where it works [16:02:41] what if you try to connect to port 80 and get /? [16:02:54] Using my IRC client I was able to connect several years ago, but I noticed that it doesn't work a year ago or so - so this error doesn't seem to be new. But I didn't really needed it until today ;) [16:02:56] this is all working for me :/ [16:03:35] port 80 seems to work -> I'm getting an Apache answer [16:04:13] are you behind a firewall or something? [16:04:53] unfortunally I have to leave now... I will investigate the firewall/router situation here [16:05:34] if this all works for you, it has to be a problem of my configuration [16:06:01] woah... it works from another PC here, so its really my problem ;) [16:06:06] thanks for helping! [19:00:55] are users allowed to have user js/css that pull from external sites, or is there some rule against that? [19:20:43] jackmcbarn: afaik you're free to do whatever you want in your own javascript, but site-wide javascript has to follow WMF policy [20:55:54] hi, erwin's tools I took over on toollabs is using https://bits.wikimedia.org/wiki/static-current/skins/common/shared.css, and I am getting a 404 on that since a while [20:56:00] has that one been moved? [21:55:41] didn't we stop using bits? [21:57:51] only an idea [22:01:40] Does someone manage to open the book creator on http://wiki.typo3.org/Main_Page ? [22:07:05] nevermind, my fault