[06:33:02] <Nemo_bis>	 Krinkle: do you know if this is still needed in Collection extension? "When available, use JS2 & jQuery from MediaWiki core "
[06:33:22] <Krinkle>	 JS2 hasn't existed since 2010
[06:33:40] <Krinkle>	 The jQuery thing, not sure. Depends on context.
[06:33:52] <Krinkle>	 It certainly isn't a configurtable thing, jQuery ships by default and it's not optional.
[06:38:20] <Nemo_bis>	 Well, if Collection doesn't ship jQuery then it must be using core's
[10:31:33] <yurb>	 A very serious security hole was discovered in bash on wednesday, WMF should urgently upgrade BASH on the servers
[10:32:03] <Reedy>	 They already have. Twice
[10:32:20] <yurb>	 Cool
[10:32:42] <yurb>	 Couldn't find any info so decided to ask here
[10:35:30] <Nemo_bis>	 yurb: thanks for caring; https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_admin_log contains the information 
[10:42:03] <andre__>	 yurb: but you didn't ask here. Instead you told WMF to upgrade which has happened already. ;)
[11:12:09] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: so, shall we set up this Collection/PDF export bug day? :) 
[11:12:10] <Nemo_bis>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Thread:Talk:PDF_rendering/Test_instance_and_bug_triage
[11:12:52] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis: Yeah, though I'd prefer a date not in the next 10 days (which might create stop energy)
[11:13:21] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: that's fine
[11:13:41] <Nemo_bis>	 I've already spent one day on collection debugging, I need some recharching 
[11:13:50] <andre__>	 Yeah. Your work is impressive
[11:21:06] <Nemo_bis>	 I hoped to close more bugs but at least I think we don't have more than we used to
[11:21:48] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: if you can propose a set/range of dates, I'll create the page and mail the various devs/triagers/users to ask their options
[11:24:26] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis: somewhere between Wed 08 and Thu 16, ~European evening or so? I think I'm pretty flexible
[11:24:28] <andre__>	 also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Meeting_preparations
[11:25:00] <Nemo_bis>	 I think I'm among the authors of that page :p
[11:25:35] <Nemo_bis>	 "The i18n team wants to hold a triage every second Wednesday" hmm do they
[11:26:14] <andre__>	 no
[11:26:24] <andre__>	 they tried for a while though
[11:26:49] <andre__>	 but this is stuff I might try to get going again once we're on Phabricator...
[11:26:54] <Nemo_bis>	 Yes, I remember, but I stopped following after a while
[11:26:55] <andre__>	 if reality doesn't bite.
[11:28:11] <Nemo_bis>	 On what coast are cscott and the others
[11:29:13] <Reedy>	 cscott is east coast
[11:29:19] <Reedy>	 who are the others? :P
[13:03:31] <Nemo_bis>	 andre__: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/201410
[13:05:17] <andre__>	 Nemo_bis, that's a better summary than I could ever write. Thanks!
[13:23:33] <Nemo_bis>	 We're writing to let you know that the group you tried to contact (ocg-team) may not exist, or you may not have permission to post messages to the group
[13:23:48] <Nemo_bis>	 So bugzilla can mail them but a person can't? :P
[14:18:19] * bmansurov is back (gone 00:01:34)
[14:18:26] * bmansurov is away: I'm busy
[14:38:29] <marktraceur>	 bmansurov: Your client has an automatic away message that you should consider turning off
[15:37:52] <bmansurov>	 marktraceur, turned it off
[15:38:04] <marktraceur>	 ty :)
[15:56:27] <andrewbogott>	 Ldap is temporarily broken, I'm working on it.
[16:48:19] <greg-g>	 James_F: so i don't forget: who should I look to for TemplateData help? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71340
[16:48:45] <James_F>	 greg-g: Me, but that bug looks like it's now solved?
[16:49:40] <greg-g>	 oh...
[20:32:57] <Nemo_bis>	 Oh, for once something I'm happy about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52
[20:33:59] <Nemo_bis>	 After emijrp migrated WikiTeam to GitHub, the ability to use email for the issue tracker was the biggest improvement in my workflow :)