[07:13:41] Hello, I have what may be a strange question, but here it goes: I am taking over administration of a small MediaWiki for the IT help desk. It is fairly outdated (was running 1.15), and I am looking to add useful extensions to the database [07:13:53] However, the database is currently in active use, and cannot be taken down. I am hoping to create a second "wiki" which points to the same MySQL database, but with different setting, extensions, etc. [07:14:03] I attempted to duplicate the mediawiki folder on the server, and add additional aliases to the apache.conf file, but the "alternate" wiki does not load [07:14:05] At this point I am stuck [07:37:26] (being resolved in #mediawiki) [16:21:46] guys. while uploading to commons. [16:21:49] always api error [16:21:50] wjhy? [16:24:57] Saqib, for how long? [16:25:00] Saqib, what is the exact error? [16:25:05] how large is the file? [16:25:10] well actually i'm from WLM Pakistan a [16:25:16] and many people sending emails [16:25:18] API error [16:25:43] Saqib: With UploadWizard? [16:25:50] yes [16:26:02] * marktraceur tries [16:27:10] actually WLM UW [16:27:12] i get you link [16:28:01] I can't repro [16:28:17] Without a campaign, though. And relatively small image. [16:28:38] Saqib: What API error do they see? Or is it like mwe-upwiz-unknown-api-error? [16:28:55] api error unknown [16:29:15]

[16:29:24] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-pk [16:29:42] Ah. [16:29:54] Saqib: I don't have any files to upload to that campaign, though. [16:30:02] you can upload test [16:30:03] I don't want to pollute your cats [16:30:04] file [16:30:06] OK [16:30:06] np [16:30:48] Still wfm [16:30:51] Small images, though [16:30:55] ok [16:30:55] Saqib, can you email it to me with the details you need so I can have a go? [16:31:03] or is it already on the web somewher [16:31:04] e? [16:31:20] you mean peolple complains? [16:31:59] people send emails [16:32:09] no, I'll have a go at uploading it for you [16:32:14] ok [16:32:15] but I need the file in question to do it :P [16:32:19] oh ok [16:32:29] well as i said.. people trying to upload [16:32:31] not me. [16:32:33] check pm for my email [16:32:37] i am co-ordinator of wLM Pakistan [16:33:14] cookies. you can upload test file [16:33:17] later it can be deleted [16:33:20] as speedy [16:36:09] Saqib, ok, will do [16:36:15] thanks [16:36:41] what stage are you getting the error? [16:37:54] while submitting [16:39:00] works for me [16:39:32] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Test_screenshot.PNG [16:40:43] hmmm [16:40:44] strange [16:40:51] anyyway thanks [16:40:59] i will say them to keep trying [17:07:52] Hi all, does anyone know if there is a tool currently avaialble for counting backlinks to Wikipedia articles via an API? I have been using this tool http://dispenser.homenet.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/backlinkscount.py - but it seems to have finally gone offline completely following some recent controversy with the User:Dispenser [20:43:19] Hello, does anyone here know how long it takes to hear back about a request to approve a new OAuth consumer? Or who is responsible for approving? [20:48:01] I was going to suggest you pinged a developer who had approved one recently, but only Reedy seems to be idling here [20:49:21] oh and anomie... didn't see him there [20:51:21] Looks like there's unapproved OAuth proposals going back to the 19th of August [20:53:23] I submitted an OAuth approval request last Monday. [21:01:07] tat2: The Stewards are eventually supposed to take things over, I'm not sure where that process is. Deskana would be the person to ask about that. At the moment, it's "however long one of the developers takes to get around to it". [21:24:42] Central login is defunc, is it the intermittent bits problem? [21:25:05] Whattever, I'll go and see a movie instead [22:32:04] hi [22:32:26] I dont understand why my bot has this following error: [22:32:28] Fatal Python error: Couldn't create autoTLSkey mapping [22:32:28] Aborted (core dumped) [22:33:23] sorry, maybe the right chan for this query is #wikimedia-labs [22:34:52] someone request needinfo from Nik here please: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69766 ? [22:44:16] Svetlana: that someone was you already in comment 10. [22:44:58] Svetlana, needinfo? [22:45:18] andre__: I didn't get that. Please rephrase? [22:45:40] Svetlana, you yourself did request more information already. [22:45:46] or what do you mean by "needinfo"? [22:45:53] I don't know what your request here on IRC is. [22:46:00] I understand he'd get an email, but I'd like to have the thing stand out from the rest of bugzilla spam - by indicating that it contains a pending *question*. [22:46:14] I don't think that is possible. [22:46:28] plus I guess that 50% of comments in Bugzilla include questions. [22:46:30] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:MozillaFlagsAndSuch#needinfo [22:46:42] that's Mozilla, not Wikimedia. [22:47:05] It's Bugzilla feature I believe. I don't think they wrote and deployed a feature only for their own instance. [22:47:17] It's not. They have their own hacks and customizations via custom extensions. [22:47:20] yes they did. [22:47:23] I see. [22:47:37] we don't have that. [22:48:25] Svetlana: I was once thinking of introducing something similar, see my thoughts in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bug_report_life_cycle/Need_more_info - but that's mood now as we move to Phabricator [22:48:41] Phabricator has this feature? [22:48:59] not like that, no [22:49:11] and I've come more to the conclusion that the feature does not make much senes [22:49:13] *sense [22:49:51] 'needinfo' implies "this ticket needs attention from someone". and that applies to basically every existing open bug report anyway. [22:50:26] <^d> Maybe what we need is a "reallyneedsinfo" :) [22:51:09] if a task is blocked on a specific person, one could assign that task to a specific person. in theory :) [22:51:57] but in real theory every comment needs attention. the problem is the filtering. I'm not aware of any bugtracker with enough intelligence (datamining) to judge the urgency of a comment in a ticket for a certain developer. [22:52:04] but it's an interesting research area. :P [22:52:38] <^d> Anyway, Nik's good at responding to BZ requests in a timely manner. That comment was just posted today, I imagine he'll get to it tomorrow (it's already > 5pm in his $timezone) [22:52:55] yes, I asked here in 2 mins after posting that comment, you're right :P [22:53:02] I was assuming I missed something, so.. [22:53:27] mozilla folks have a lot of bug mail so they figured out features that help to prioritise it... :) [22:53:41] no, you didn't miss something, but I know understood your question, so thanks for explaining :) [22:53:59] I would not say that Mozilla figured out features that help to prioritise, no. [22:54:05] not at all, actually. [22:54:26] they tried at least (needinfo nags every couple days like a buldog) :p [22:54:42] in email. [22:54:49] yeah, it's similar to Bugzilla's whining functionality. People set up a mailfilter to immediately delete such mail. [22:54:49] it keeps reminding. [22:54:56] and everybody ignores it. [22:55:57] <^d> I dunno why people don't like bugmail. I read mine every morning :) [22:56:05] <^d> s/read/skim/ [22:56:07] <^d> Same thing. [22:56:07] well, it's not like I want that feature be enabled on our bugzilla in a we-will-die-otherwise-and-fail-to-meet-our-mission way, but reading mail is indeed hard and an interesting area for research and thinking [22:56:08] :) [22:56:53] <^d> First thing I do in the morning. Catch up on all the BZ and wikitech-l e-mails from the night. [22:57:14] <^d> I need a more interesting morning routine :p [22:58:49] same here. and looking at the VillagePumps.