[00:00:00] agreed. It will be fixed soonish [00:00:47] in particular, i get 404s a lot for no discernible reason, and the php on the 404 pages isn't ran, so there's php code in what i see in the browser [00:01:30] hmm - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MPelletier_(WMF) [00:01:42] i guess that has to do with the debugging on the hhvm staging host [00:03:27] Something went very sideways on the hhvm box a few days ago and nobody has fixed it yet [00:03:30] Hm. [00:03:38] Well as long as it doesn't start serving PrivateSettings.php... :) [00:03:47] Also there is something not quite right about the caching layer still I think [00:05:27] bd808: 'the hhvm box' = osmium? [00:05:57] mutante: One of the mw servers. I don't remember which one [00:06:11] https://noc.wikimedia.org/pybal/eqiad/hhvm_appservers [00:06:47] ok, well, 2 people are debugging stuff on the HHVM staging host [00:06:56] which i suppose is before those [00:11:42] Looks like mw1019 is the one returning raw php [00:31:22] Is it just me or is mw working less and less well with postgres? [00:34:33] Coren: probably not. there are a few installer regressions due to the addition of mssql support [00:35:22] legoktm: Also, Echo breaks under postgres and now I'm trying to track down a completely silly bug: reading one's talk page no longer properly deletes the entry from user_newtalk. [00:35:22] probably not you* [00:35:29] heh [00:35:41] I doubt anyone on the Echo team tests with postgres [00:35:52] * Coren grumbles. I am much hate for mysql and uses postgres. [00:36:32] There's actually a postgres db available from labs. CI should be running against it too. [00:36:40] there's a bug for that! [00:36:58] They're going to "love" it when it first gets turned on. [00:37:16] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37602 [00:38:04] marking your talk page as read is a core thing though, which Echo shouldn't be interfering with [00:38:28] Hi all. The source editor does not highlight source and does not do code folding (a newcomer wants that for folding complex multiline templates such as infoboxes). What is an appropriate place to request these, and suggest getting CodeEditor (the pretty editor that's enabled for js and css) set up for editing wiki markup yet? [00:38:39] s/ yet// [00:38:42] No, the bug was there before echo was installed. I was hoping this was a regression in core which Echo would circumvent (though I've been meaning to deploy echo for ages anyways) [00:40:08] Svetlana: bugzilla [00:43:10] * Coren suspects the issue is because recent versions started using 'timestamp with timezone' as a type. [00:50:51] I'm kinda stuck trying to divine a way to switch from postgres to mysql now. [00:50:59] *without* loosing the wiki. [00:51:02] "Yeay!" [01:00:10] ... that's NOT going to happen. *sigh* [01:00:21] Svetlana, legoktm: CodeEditor to highlight wikitext...? [01:00:30] * Coren cries. [01:03:12] Well, not without an impressive amount of manual data manipulation. [01:03:18] * Coren is otherwise out of options now. [01:06:06] Krenair: yes [05:03:23] Coren: export to XML and reimport is probably best option :p [05:03:52] if you find a way, leave a note somewhere on the wiki (there's a manual I think?) or on the bug for toolserver wiki migration please [09:07:14] andre__: did something change in fab.wmflabs.org as regards notifications? it seems I started receiving email notifications which I had disabled [09:19:43] Nemo_bis: can you please help me with some Italian? [09:20:14] does https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Composizione_musicale have an option to include ogg file? It is hard for me to understand [09:21:09] Nemo_bis: so the setting in http://fab.wmflabs.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ got reverted for you? [09:23:24] andre__: looks so [09:23:29] (I've changed it again) [09:23:59] matanya: yes, ascolto = [09:27:51] thanks Nemo_bis [11:03:14] thedjNotWMF: oh yes, centralnotice - thanks for the keyword (re: chat from 20th of August) [11:49:26] Svetlana: 20th... :) [11:56:46] nice and recent then... [13:26:57] would my 'always use https' option in first tab of preferences exist after https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS/Beta_program takes place? [13:44:53] [[Tech]]; 93.156.192.94; /* gtyyjimby jm acecho */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=9673222&oldid=9602918&rcid=5529569 [13:47:30] [[Tech]]; Mdann52; Undo revision 9673222 by [[Special:Contributions/93.156.192.94|93.156.192.94]] ([[User talk:93.156.192.94|talk]]); https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=9673242&oldid=9673222&rcid=5529570 [13:50:43] Nemo_bis: That looses too many thing. I'm actually converting the data right now. It's doable. [14:12:12] Starting from a pgdump to insert statements, with a bit of sed and a handful of manual tweaks. [14:29:30] Uh, I had no idea MassMessage was supposed to work on fishbowl wikis too http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthere&diff=next&oldid=91871 [17:49:16] Nemo_bis: MassMessage can send to any wiki in the cluster technically [18:25:05] For the curious, I have suceesfully managed to properly move a mw install from postgres to mysql. Hint: make sure the postgresql schema has all the obsolete columns actually dropped first. [18:26:32] <^d> Coren: Yeah, it'd be nice if we actually kept non-mysql schemas up to date :p [18:28:12] ^d: ... yeah. I just upgraded a wiki I ran to 1.23 and the number of patches I had to keep to have it working with a real database had become unmanageable. :-( [18:28:37] On the plus side, I now have Visualeditor and Echo working fine on it. :-) [18:28:57] Coren: I /think/ VE should have worked on Postgres too, FWIW. [18:29:12] Coren: No DB calls in our code at all, so… ideally it should work on all DBs. [18:29:41] <^d> James_F: Heh, except when you rely on core pieces that don't work across DBs :p [18:29:47] James_F: It might have, were it not for the numerous core and extension issues. Echo, though, didn't even try. It /only/ has a mysql schema. [18:29:52] <^d> DID YOU TEST ON ORACLE? [18:30:15] * Coren wants to deploy Flow next. [18:34:27] Coren: Fun! [18:34:54] ^d: Well, I /think/ we don't rely on any particularly novel or unusual MW core stuff that has DB stuff in it. [18:35:09] James_F: How usable is Flow+VE atm? [18:35:14] ^d: The write API and user/site config API queries are about it. [18:35:26] Coren: No idea; not seen it for months. I think it's "resting". [18:35:53] Coren: Danny or Erik B. might be able to answer better. [18:36:26] pining for the fjords? [18:36:46] Or maybe it's just stunned. [18:37:21] I love you all. [18:37:29] Of /course/ you'd get my reference. [18:37:31] * James_F hugs. [18:37:38] :D [18:39:11] Dude. A reference to the Parrot Sketch in a roomful of geeks? There would have been serious cause to worry if we /didn't/ get it. :-) [18:49:12] James_F: And just for teh fun, I filed a bug against VE (though I'm not sure that was the right component) [18:49:19] Whee. [18:49:23] Coren: Will go look. [18:58:06] * harej stares at james_f [18:58:17] * James_F waves. [18:58:18] Heya. [18:58:42] you want a free trip to dc or not!? ;) [19:00:14] harej: Didn't I say yes? [19:00:37] I guess you did but I wasn't totally sure. [19:01:07] Oh, sorry. [19:01:09] "Yes". [19:01:25] If you're sure there isn't someone better. :-) [19:01:26] I haz a odd bug since my upgrade to 1.23.2 maybe someone saw it before. Any attempt to upload a file gives me "The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: editprotected." Even if I /do/ have editprotected (but also if not). [19:06:08] Coren: isn't editprotected a right, not a group? [19:06:20] Coren: sounds like wiki misconfiguration to me [19:06:32] MatmaRex: It is. So it makes even less sense. [19:06:53] MatmaRex: I don't even /have/ an editprotected group. [19:07:10] MatmaRex: And none of the config changed (though there could be a defaultsetting that changed. [19:07:12] Coren: if you have accidentally used it anywhere, yes you do [19:07:27] grep LocalSettings for it? :) [19:08:02] MatmaRex: Nowhere outside of various $wgGroupPermissions [19:08:11] check Special:ListGroupPermissions? [19:08:19] in case an extension is doing something silly [19:08:47] Coren: yes, that's what i mean. are you sure you're not accidentally assigning any rights to the 'editprotected' group, rather than assigning the 'editprotected' right to some group, or something? [19:15:06] I'm not, but ListGroupPermissions definitely shows something creating it. [19:15:09] And that's new. Hmm. [19:18:36] anyone know if it is possible to search gerrit for patches merged in a particular date range? [19:20:56] Aha! got it. It /was/ a config error of mine that just didn't break in older versions. [19:21:09] in $wgFlaggedRevsExceptions [19:21:36] I was referring to an incorrect array in there.