[00:40:02] i dont see visualeditor at russian wikinews for some reason [00:40:09] was it deployed? [00:41:16] I don't see it listed on https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=visualeditor-default.dblist nor https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=visualeditor.dblist [00:41:22] James_F|Away would know why probably ^ [00:41:31] Svetlana: i think it's disabled by default on most non-latin-script wikis [00:41:51] because of some input method problems or some such [00:42:07] you can still opt-in, can't you? [00:44:27] MatmaRex: how? [00:44:38] in preferences [00:45:13] i dont find pref [00:45:18] thats the issue MatmaRex [00:45:26] i dont know where it should be on any wiki [00:46:36] its also OK and enabled at russian wikipedia [00:46:50] but i only checked when logged in, i probably already found the pref some few weeks ago and forgot [00:47:18] Svetlana: it seems it's in beta features when not enabled by default [00:47:30] but indeed it seems missing on ruwikinews [00:47:42] maybe it was only enabled for wikipedias? no idea [00:54:06] :o [01:13:49] OK, thanks. I asked at #mediawiki-visualeditor now. [01:16:03] bblack: the lighttpd reload fix is unmerged [01:16:09] puppet-merge that is [01:16:27] oops :) [01:16:37] i'll take it now.. right [01:16:38] go ahead :) [01:16:44] done [01:16:55] thanks! [01:29:05] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/FAQ how to disable VE? " . If you would like to remove VisualEditor from the user interface, then you can go to the Editing tab of your Preferences page, untick the checkbox "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main and user namespaces)"," -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing does not have this button. [01:29:08] Please help! [01:29:31] it's a betafeature there I think. [01:30:20] Svetlana: yea, click the "Beta features" tab in preferences [01:30:56] s/Editing tab/Beta feature tab/g [01:31:07] legoktm: mutante: Ah, thanks! Can I update the wiki page then? [01:31:19] it's a wiki, be bold :) [01:31:22] sure, that :) [01:56:07] I did. Why is that page not in Help:* namespace? It's a help page, not a policy. [08:17:16] [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2014]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=9528516&oldid=9391903&rcid=5497525 [09:46:17] wow 20 seconds to load https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Tallinn (found in someone's http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140809_CF_B3J/ ) [09:50:40] 20 seconds? [09:51:01] It's only 116,778 bytes... [10:02:44] Nemo_bis: not surprising really is it ? [10:03:15] i mean parse from scratch, all the images, long page, bad connection... 20seconds isn't much then. [10:03:29] thedj: bad connection? it's a 5 Mb/s connection [10:03:50] It seems phabricator really likes to keep me logged out; Authentication Failure Your login session is invalid. Try reloading the page and logging in again. If that does not work, clear your browser cookies. [10:04:00] Nemo_bis: if dns names don't resolve, then 5Mb/s doesn't matter :) [10:05:30] thedj: where do you see DNS problems there? [10:20:49] Nemo_bis: not. [10:21:08] Nemo_bis: but my pages often take me over 10 seconds to fully download as well. [10:21:19] they are usable a lot sooner though. [10:23:32] well can't test manually, it's much faster now that they removed the illegal external resources [10:29:51] wow 3secs for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:BannerRandom?uselang=en&sitename=Wikivoyage&project=wikivoyage&anonymous=true&bucket=0&country=US&device=desktop&slot=9&debug= [10:38:47] even from amsterdam, first view is 8s [10:39:16] and the voyage banner took 2871ms... [10:40:27] ah voyage banners are fullsize images ??? [10:43:17] hmm, and no caching on the wmflabs tool of course... so that adds load on repeated views.. [10:58:23] * ori sobs. [11:27:19] * valhallasw`cloud hugs ori [11:27:44] :) [11:27:51] i haven't been paying attention to front-end performance at all [11:28:02] for a good couple of months at least [11:28:12] i hope i'm not horrified by what i find out when i have a chance to turn back to it [11:32:38] is bits.beta.wmflabs.org meant to be refusing connections? [11:32:55] * ori checks [11:33:51] it's rejecting my key, fun [11:35:11] what instance is it? [11:35:25] wikitech's "console output" shows the OOM killer killing things left and right [11:35:34] deployment-cache-bits01 i-0000007f.eqiad.wmflabs [11:35:42] i'll reboot it [11:36:01] unless you want to take a look, but i doubt you'll be able to ssh in. console via virsh is probably the only option [11:36:06] no, just reboot [11:39:50] rebooted; it's back up [11:39:55] thanks [13:13:26] ori: do you have any idea why https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Version is not available or how we can find logs for this? [13:13:57] aude: 2014-08-15 10:58:50 mw1017 testwikidatawiki: [7f4f1e8c] /wiki/Q29 Exception from line 1192 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.24wmf17/includes/db/Database.php: A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script [13:14:04] i know about that [13:14:07] that's exception.log on fluorine; same as other app servers [13:14:56] aude: have you tried generating Special:Version via mwscript eval.php for testwikidatawiki on tin? [13:15:03] going to do now [15:34:34] Reedy: can you update https://gist.github.com/reedy/5397bb127ebb2b4e7eac please? I contacted several wikis and the list should be much shorter now