[00:47:00] <greg-g>	 James_F: thanks for the archive
[00:49:10] <James_F>	 greg-g: Happy to help. In return, I need to deploy a "new" extension at some point soon. :-)
[00:49:35] <James_F>	 greg-g: (Special:Cite -> CiteThisPage.)
[00:57:04] <Krenair>	 James_F, so CiteThisPage has all the Special:Cite stuff in?
[00:57:12] <James_F>	 Krenair: Yup.
[00:58:16] <James_F>	 Krenair: It was ridiculous for it to be in the same repo as an unrelated extension, and I got irritated enough to split it.
[00:58:22] <Krenair>	 Yeah.
[01:00:42] <greg-g>	 James_F: oh right :)
[01:02:29] <Krenair>	 So looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/149592/
[01:02:31] <Krenair>	 Git thinks a lot of these were deleted files and new files, rather than renames
[01:02:34] <greg-g>	 James_F: who do you want to do it?
[01:02:47] <greg-g>	 Krenair: I think that's how gerrit shows it
[01:03:04] <greg-g>	 iow: I think git knows they're renames
[01:03:15] <greg-g>	 (I *think*)
[01:03:33] <James_F>	 greg-g: Eh. Reedy should be more than capable, but I can bully Roan into doing it if you want.
[01:03:36] <Krenair>	 Well it recognises COPYING -> COPYING.txt
[01:04:20] <greg-g>	 James_F: nah, you're right, reedy
[01:04:25] <James_F>	 Kk.
[01:04:32] <James_F>	 (Sorry, Reedy!)
[01:04:46] <greg-g>	 :)
[01:13:14] <Reedy>	 COPYING.txt
[01:13:14] <Reedy>	 renamed from COPYING
[01:13:22] <Reedy>	 git/gerrit just does what it wants
[01:15:46] <James_F>	 Yeah; its determination of whether files are new or not depends on the level of change.
[01:16:01] <James_F>	 There's no "stored" information about mv operations.
[03:03:47] <Pine>	 Does anyone here have experience working with Blender?
[03:04:09] <svetlana>	 Pine: hi.
[03:04:12] <Pine>	 I am trying to edit a video of a Wikimedia presentation in Blender.
[03:04:14] <Pine>	 Hi svetlana 
[03:04:29] <Pine>	 Have you worked with Blender?
[03:04:31] <svetlana>	 Pine: try #blender ?
[03:04:35] <Pine>	 Hm
[03:05:41] <Pine>	 Thanks
[03:06:02] <svetlana>	 you're welcome.
[03:06:19] <svetlana>	 is it your presentation?
[03:10:13] <Pine>	 No, this is a presentation by J-Mo
[03:10:59] <svetlana>	 do you know him irl or just found a presentation on the web? have you got an url?
[03:17:49] <Pine>	 IRL. The url will be up when I'm finished working with Blender and then get the video online.
[03:18:38] <svetlana>	 ok. I'd be happy to look at it and give feedback if you don't mind.
[03:23:14] <Pine>	 svetlana: feedback should go to J-Mo :)
[03:23:20] <Pine>	 I was just the videographer
[03:23:29] <Pine>	 although I commented a few times during the presetnation
[03:23:39] <Pine>	 but J-Mo should get 90% of the credit
[03:24:16] <svetlana>	 I know, you're just here and he is not. you can link me to it and tell me how to contact him, when it's ready.
[03:35:53] <Pine>	 My goal is to have the video uploaded to Commons and I will include a link to his user profile when the video is uploaded, if I'm the one who does the upload.
[03:44:21] <svetlana>	 and if not? and why do I need a user profile? those "user profile" concepts are complicating life; they really should learn to generate user profiles automatically
[03:51:48] <Pine>	 I don't understand your last statement.
[03:52:32] <svetlana>	 I just didn't understand your "will include a link to his user profile" concept... if you include it into the presentation then maybe it makes sense.
[03:52:48] <svetlana>	 And I don't like user profiles.
[03:55:42] <Pine>	 By "user profile" I meant his Wikimedia userpage
[03:55:51] <Pine>	 You can contact him there on his user talk page if you want
[03:56:02] <svetlana>	 I don't like userpages. ;-)
[03:56:14] <Pine>	 What would you use instead?
[03:56:17] <svetlana>	 But thanks; it did take me a long while to understand /where/ you'd include it.
[03:56:19] <svetlana>	 A username.
[03:56:36] <Pine>	 The username links to the userpage.
[03:56:41] <svetlana>	 :)
[03:56:58] <harej>	 (:
[16:03:25] <Steinsplitter>	 somone here who know how things abut the wm mailinglists?
[16:03:45] <Reedy>	 They're not worth reading
[16:35:26] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Hello. I am getting the following error when my bot tries to edit a page: 
[16:35:26] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Code: badmd5
[16:35:27] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Text: The supplied MD5 hash was incorrect
[16:35:45] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 I have never seen this error before, and my bot has made hundreds of thousands of edits
[16:36:05] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 it is trying to add the exact text at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:OgreBot/Uploads_by_new_users/2014_July_27_00:00
[16:36:25] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 is there a bug in the PHP hashing algorithm, or is there a bug in Mediawiki, or it something else?
[16:37:34] <Reedy>	 It's likely user side I guess
[16:37:42] <Reedy>	 user/bot
[16:40:15] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 I am going to rerun my bot in DEBUG trace mode
[16:40:53] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 maybe I can get to the bottom of this
[16:42:39] <Reedy>	 No doubt it'll be something simple/silly edge case
[18:06:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Not bad and quick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS4kTgaiydQ
[18:10:42] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 Reedy, it looks like the error is that I was trying to dump the metadata from a file, but the metadata, had an encoding error in it, so the PHP and/or Mediawiki md5 function got confused
[18:25:21] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 I'm getting an error when I try to load my page on wiki labs. where are the PHP error logs?
[18:26:55] <hoo>	 ~/error_log
[18:26:56] <hoo>	 I think
[18:27:04] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 it's not there
[18:27:10] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 is there a permissions issue?
[18:27:21] <Magog_the_Ogre>	 The URI you have requested, /magog/UpdateNewUploads.php?project=commons.wikimedia&start=20140727000000, appears to be non-functional at this time.
[21:39:26] <legoktm>	  PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.24wmf15/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php line 166:
[21:39:26] <legoktm>	 Call to a member function getBits() on a non-object 
[21:39:31] <legoktm>	 trying to revdel something on testwiki
[21:42:05] <legoktm>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68566 apparently
[21:44:45] <Reedy>	 legoktm: There's no change id link so I presume it wasn't
[21:45:00] <legoktm>	 hoo put it on the SWAT list for tomorow
[21:45:11] <legoktm>	 I just created a cherry-pick for it