[03:31:07] <svetlana>	 <Nemo_bis> «We're notably missing, among our languages' "top 10": activity for  Spanish, German, Russian; any translator for French, Portuguese,  Chinese; and in top 20, Turkish, Swedish, Arabic, Czech, Indonesian,  Ukrainian, Persian.» http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2014-June/000889.html
[03:31:18] <svetlana>	 Nemo_bis: this is horridly unclear on /what/ they'd like to get translated
[03:32:12] <svetlana>	 Nemo_bis: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/CLDR#Contribute_to_an_existing_locale "what exactly is that and who needs it?"
[04:35:45] <Mardus>	 Hi. I can't seem to connec to Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia properties
[04:35:55] <Mardus>	 * connect
[04:37:06] <Mardus>	 Strange, status.wikimedia.org seems to be fine.
[04:37:58] <Mardus>	 I seem to be getting a connection to upload.wikimedia.org
[04:56:50] <closedmouth>	 you're welcome
[05:01:57] <Nemo_bis>	 svetlana: that's explained in https://translatewiki.net/wiki/CLDR#top
[05:10:16] <Mardus>	 I'm still unable to connect to Wikipedia with the computer, but it's possible with my smartphone.
[05:10:44] <Mardus>	 Using the same connection
[05:21:52] <Mardus>	 Leaving
[08:54:17] <svetlana>	 should mediawiki's "newsection" api accept a "before" and "after" arguments to indicate new section position?
[09:14:37] <Nemo_bis>	 svetlana: search bugzilla, I vaguely remember a potentially related bug 
[19:34:25] <Betacommand>	 werdna: you still around?
[20:50:35] <Sven_Manguard>	 hey all
[20:50:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 any of you fine ladies and gentlemen consider yourselves experts in php?
[20:51:21] <Sven_Manguard>	 I've been told that it would take 20-30 minutes of a php expert's time to get luxo's derivativeFX back up
[20:51:50] <Sven_Manguard>	 which would be really swell
[20:54:37] <Krenair>	 As in, taking luxo's TS tool and porting it to run elsewhere?
[20:55:30] <Sven_Manguard>	 Krenair: apparently it's already on toolserver, but there's a possible security issue that needs to be looked at
[20:55:51] <Krenair>	 you mean already on tool labs..?
[20:55:53] <Reedy>	 s/toolserver/tool labs/ ?
[20:55:59] <Sven_Manguard>	 yeah, on labs 
[20:56:01] <Sven_Manguard>	 sorry
[20:56:05] <Sven_Manguard>	 Steinsplitter: help :D
[20:56:07] <Krenair>	 tool labs, ok
[20:56:15] <Krenair>	 what possible security issue? PM perhaps?
[20:56:38] <Sven_Manguard>	 Krenair: Steinsplitter is the one that knows. I was just trying to find some help through my contacts 
[20:56:45] <Sven_Manguard>	 also... bugging this channel 
[20:56:55] <Sven_Manguard>	 since my contacts are offline at the moment 
[20:58:21] <Steinsplitter>	 in tools.derivative. it works. but there are some thinks that mabye allow injection/XSS etc.
[21:08:27] <Sven_Manguard>	 Keegan: So, doctor, can you save her?
[21:09:17] <Keegan>	 Sven_Manguard: I am not a doctor, unfortunately 
[21:09:27] <Sven_Manguard>	 whoops, wrong ping 
[21:09:33] <Sven_Manguard>	 meant Krenair 
[21:09:35] <Sven_Manguard>	 :S
[21:10:22] <Krenair>	 Sven_Manguard, I wasn't planning to do the porting myself. I'm just trying to establish what's involved
[21:10:28] <Sven_Manguard>	 oh
[21:10:34] <Krenair>	 Aren't there copyright issues with this?
[21:12:44] <Sven_Manguard>	 I don't have any idea
[21:12:53] <Sven_Manguard>	 but it's already on tools, just not active, I think
[21:12:58] <Sven_Manguard>	 so I would guess not
[21:30:02] <Sven_Manguard>	 brb
[22:54:40] <werdna>	 Betacommand: I exist indeed
[22:54:40] <Betacommand>	 werdna: I think Snowolf took care of it already