[02:40:11] <dtm>	 hey guys i found someone else's question, "I want to ask is there any way to find all latest changes by users in WikiProject Azerbaijan? There was toolserver tool but now they removed it"
[10:20:40] <rotpunkt>	 hi, on itwiki modified sytem messages have stopped working!
[10:20:57] <rotpunkt>	 is it a known problem?
[10:34:03] <MatmaRex>	 rotpunkt: can you be more specific?
[10:35:17] <rotpunkt>	 sure just a second
[10:36:14] <rotpunkt>	 for example if you visit: https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Scienze_sociali&action=edit the button label is "Gestisci documentazione template" but it was configured in https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Templatedata-editbutton as "Gestisci TemplateData", and so on
[10:36:53] <rotpunkt>	 until yesterday it worked
[10:38:37] <MatmaRex>	 huh. and this affects all messages?
[10:39:32] <rotpunkt>	 Perhaps not all, I was looking for them in Special:AllMessages
[10:39:34] <MatmaRex>	 no, not all of them. e.g. the footer on https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Matma_Rex is custom
[10:39:47] <MatmaRex>	 weird.
[10:40:13] <rotpunkt>	 however on enwiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Templatedata-editbutton takes effect
[10:41:33] <MatmaRex>	 yeah. i guess you'll want to file a bug, i don't see this reported anywhere
[10:48:40] <rotpunkt>	 thx MatmaRex, maybe it's related to Visualeditor messages, I will check more deeply
[10:48:58] <Nemo_bis>	 TemplateData is not VE
[10:49:09] <rotpunkt>	 ok
[10:49:11] <rotpunkt>	 thx
[10:52:55] <Nemo_bis>	 hoo: http://koti.kapsi.fi/~federico/crstats/ is updating and looks reasonable, I'll setup the crontab in a moment
[10:53:42] <hoo>	 nuce
[10:53:44] <hoo>	 * nice
[10:53:48] <Nemo_bis>	 Though I get "warning: notes ref refs/notes/review is invalid" 76 times, might be repos with no commits or something
[14:02:28] <Nemo_bis>	 legoktm: are you going to merge some of those 3M unattached accounts any time soon? ;)
[15:51:22] <jorn>	 hi, uhm not sure if i'm right here, but let me try:
[15:51:52] <jorn>	 is there a way in the api search to for all results also list the categories of the page?
[15:52:15] <marktraceur>	 Maybe generators
[15:52:59] <marktraceur>	 jorn: Can you link to an example search you're doing, so I can play with it?
[15:53:32] <jorn>	 sure
[15:53:33] <jorn>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json&action=query&list=search&srnamespace=0&srprop=redirecttitle|score|wordcount|hasrelated&redirects&srsearch=cain
[15:53:56] <marktraceur>	 OK so
[15:54:24] <marktraceur>	 I think the answer is to use action=query&prop=categories&generator=search
[15:54:33] <jorn>	 and it would even be ok if i can just do that for the first result, just couldn't figure that out either :(
[15:54:51] <marktraceur>	 Look at docs for generators, I'll be back in a bit if you still need help
[15:55:32] <jorn>	 thx
[16:06:26] <jorn>	 marktraceur: so this is how far i always get: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json&action=query&prop=categories&generator=search&list=search&srlimit=1&srnamespace=0&srprop=redirecttitle|score|wordcount|hasrelated&redirects&srsearch=cain
[16:07:30] <jorn>	 i think it's correct to prefix search with sr but it keeps complaining that the param is not set
[16:07:40] <jorn>	 even if i take away the sr
[16:07:49] <marktraceur>	 Hrm
[16:07:55] <marktraceur>	 I think there's a prefix for generators.
[16:08:16] <Reedy>	 g
[16:08:48] <marktraceur>	 But gsrsearch didn't work for me either.
[16:08:58] <jorn>	 yupp, tried that and gsearch
[16:09:08] <marktraceur>	 Oh, because you didn't take out list=search
[16:09:34] <marktraceur>	 jorn: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json&action=query&prop=categories&generator=search&gsrlimit=1&gsrnamespace=0&gsrprop=redirecttitle|score|wordcount|hasrelated&redirects&gsrsearch=cain
[16:10:23] <jorn>	 marktraceur: thanks
[16:10:30] <jorn>	 but now the redirect info is lost, isn't it?
[16:10:41] <marktraceur>	 Uh
[16:11:04] <marktraceur>	 Seems like it
[16:11:31] <jorn>	 + it only lists 10 categories ^^
[16:11:34] <marktraceur>	 jorn: Maybe put that into prop instead of gsrprop
[16:11:41] <marktraceur>	 That's because there's a limit
[16:11:54] <marktraceur>	 You can continue the categories
[16:12:36] <jorn>	 hmm, cause in the end i want to use it to decide if a search for something ended at a proper page describing that something or on a disambiguation page
[16:13:24] <jorn>	 is there a way to filter categories instead of paging through them?
[16:13:25] <marktraceur>	 Hm.
[16:15:13] <Nemo_bis>	 filter?
[16:16:35] <marktraceur>	 Nemo_bis: Find ones that matter, I guess, to you based on some search term
[16:16:45] <marktraceur>	 But too many nested operations for an API call.
[16:18:35] <jorn>	 hmm, maybe i should explain what i'm trying to do... i'm trying to link a list of associations to semantic entities for a research project. the associations are stimulus response pairs from an old experiment in the 1970 like "run"-"walk", but also "money"-"bank"
[16:20:05] <jorn>	 now where possible i'd like to get associations between "semantic entities", but as the list is > 5000 things i'd like to automatically link the easy ones.
[16:20:49] <marktraceur>	 jorn: Maybe you should get access to the research database?
[16:21:05] <marktraceur>	 DarTar: Y'all have a process for people to get access to the database, right?
[16:21:54] <jorn>	 if that's possible would be cool...
[16:22:03] <DarTar>	 marktraceur: yes, get someone to file an RT ticket with: preferred shell username, public key, name of manager for approval (cc’ed) and we can take it from there
[16:22:16] <marktraceur>	 DarTar: I don't think jorn works at WMF.
[16:22:26] <DarTar>	 ha, that’s a different story
[16:22:30] <marktraceur>	 Yeah
[16:22:31] <DarTar>	 hi jorn
[16:22:34] <jorn>	 hi ;)
[16:22:42] <DarTar>	 I’m in a meeting right now but can talk afterwards
[16:23:24] <jorn>	 DarTar: cool ;)
[16:23:27] <marktraceur>	 jorn: Anyway, that means you can at least run the queries without API limits
[16:23:30] <DarTar>	 jorn: you should join #wikimedia-research
[16:23:45] <DarTar>	 that’s the usual place were we help people with research requests
[16:24:43] <jorn>	 ok
[16:25:17] <Nemo_bis>	 Uh, you need private data? :o
[16:25:38] <jorn>	 hmm?
[16:26:19] <Nemo_bis>	 Everyone can query public data https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access
[16:28:04] <jorn>	 interesting ^^
[16:54:34] <jorn>	 i somehow always feel overwhelmed by all the different spots where to find information... most of the time seems hard to find them as a noob :-
[16:56:09] <jorn>	 Nemo_bis and marktraceur: thanks for the pointers ;)
[18:05:05] <bthfan>	 hi, I have a simple question on Gerrit: How/where can I see comment numbers?
[18:05:22] <Nemo_bis>	 what are comment numbers?
[18:05:23] <bthfan>	 someone pointed to various comment numbers here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125575/
[18:05:30] <bthfan>	 ". See comments #4, 55 and 56."
[18:05:39] <bthfan>	 (at the very bottom)
[18:05:48] <marktraceur>	 I guess they counted?
[18:05:51] <bthfan>	 and I wonder what comments to look for
[18:05:54] <marktraceur>	 That's kind of weird
[18:06:00] <bthfan>	 s/for/at
[18:10:45] <bthfan>	 now that I'm already here: Is there a way to reference other comments in a single change in Gerrit?
[18:10:57] <bthfan>	 I'm mostly used to Bugzilla, things work different there :o
[18:11:57] <marktraceur>	 You cannot, no
[18:12:05] <marktraceur>	 bthfan: Usually people copy and paste text they reply to.
[18:12:09] <marktraceur>	 Like an email.
[18:12:09] <bthfan>	 ok
[21:32:59] <jeblad>	 We had a discussion on nowiki about pending changes, and posted a bug about it https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64726
[21:33:10] <jeblad>	 That bug is now over 2 months old
[21:33:46] <jeblad>	 How shall we proceede with this bug to get some changes