[07:21:34] http://ganglia.wmflabs.org/latest/ is showing an interesting error [07:27:25] tto: hey! labs ganglia is dead [07:27:38] tto: http://charcoal.wmflabs.org/ should work for now (username/password is guest/guest) [07:27:52] tto: I'll make an announcement once I get rid of the auth [07:28:05] YuviPanda: dead in what way? the topic in this channel still links there, for one [07:28:37] tto: hmm? I see ganglia.wikimedia.org linkd... [07:28:42] tto: not ganglia.wmflabs.org [07:28:58] oh! easy to confuse them [07:29:00] tto: :) [07:29:05] what is the difference between the two? [07:29:08] or "was" [07:29:19] tto: wmflabs.org is for Wikimedia Labs (including toolserver, beta cluster, etc) [07:29:30] tto: wikimedia.org is for our production sites (all the wikipedias, etc) [07:29:41] oh, so ganglia.wmflabs was a ganglia installation for labs! [07:29:52] I assumed it was for all wikimedia [07:30:56] tto: :) no [07:32:23] YuviPanda: thanks for your help, I'm now happily un-confused :) [07:32:44] tto: :D yay [07:47:55] "all the wikipedias" so ignorant YuviPanda [07:48:37] twkozlowski: are there any wikipedias that aren't on the cluster? [07:49:08] are there any Wikisources that aren't on the cluster? [07:49:24] IIRC, no? [07:49:37] I did say (all the wikipedias, etc) [10:49:13] Hm. https://www.ohloh.net/p/mediawiki-webtools [15:21:43] hello [15:22:42] would it possible to put this live plz? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141300/ [15:25:38] yannf: We can't push it out until at least Monday, but we can merge it maybe. So all documents are shown to have 0 pages right now? [15:25:52] yes [15:26:06] yannf: Don't suppose you have an example link handy? :) [15:26:22] yes [15:27:08] https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:IndexPages [15:27:37] actually if you purge any index, then it should show 0 page [15:27:44] I only...oh [15:28:07] Yeah, confirmed [15:28:11] OK I'll merge 'er [15:28:19] And schedule it for a SWAT on Monday [15:28:36] ok, thanks [15:28:57] yannf: Thanks for the poke [15:29:06] welcome ;D [15:59:01] Oh oops fail [15:59:12] yannf: I just accidentally merged to wmf10! Graw [15:59:32] which means? [15:59:46] Not supposed to do that without deploying :) [15:59:50] * marktraceur asks -ops for halp [16:07:51] Guess we're OK [17:04:00] James_F: Will you be adding VE entries to Tech News this week? [17:23:51] twkozlowski: Yes. [17:25:51] Great :-) Thanks, James_F [19:50:53] MatmaRex: Oh dear :-(( [19:51:35] twkozlowski: ? :o [19:51:40] MatmaRex: Would you be so kind as to post a human-readable summary of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123817/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141973/ to Tech News? [19:51:59] The current state is that Regular People will see the icons again, right? [19:52:13] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2014/27 is the current issue I'm working on right now [19:52:14] this isn't merged yet [19:52:28] (my new patch, that is) [19:52:47] and when it is probably no one will notice anyway [19:53:07] Yes, I didn't notice they were removed in the first place [19:53:12] twkozlowski: was https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123817/ in tech news when it was merged? (in april) [19:53:30] if it wasn't, i wouldn't put the new one in tech news either :) (that is assuming that it will get merged at all) [19:53:44] I don't remember what we posted last week, and you ask me about April :-) [19:54:18] :) [19:54:53] I see we missed it, so [19:55:32] oh, I see why. It was merged on a Sunday [19:55:58] and then we had the Heartbleed week [22:38:23] An old bug meant adding a page link to a file or category would create a link to "::Category:Foo" instead of ":Category:Foo". [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50279] [22:38:30] What's up with the s, James_F|Away? [22:39:23] (Not to mention you first close and then when you opened inside [22:39:30] Krenair: ^^ [22:40:14] twkozlowski: I blame the Translate extension. ;-) [22:40:42] Oh, it works for me perfectly when I use wikitext :-) [22:40:51] "Works". [22:41:24] No, works. No need for the sarcastic quotation marks. [22:42:52] '""scare quotes""' [22:46:05] * Nemo_bis still has no idea what the string above meant [22:47:37] Nemo_bis: mine? [22:48:32] No, "...An old bug..." etc. [22:48:57] Was the old bug just about :: vs. : or did it also add code, span and other random tags? :) [22:49:27] Translate syntax is terrifying. [22:49:46] Yes, it's absolute miracle wikitext works with it. [22:49:56] ;-) [22:50:01] No unclosed tags! [22:50:29] Wikitext is also pretty terrifying at times, but the translate markup is literally above my head. [22:50:39] I just write normal pages and some helpful person comes along and marks it up. [22:51:11] I believe that's how wikitext works, yes. [22:51:21] Or rather, how a wiki works, yes. [22:51:30] Sometimes. [22:53:04] I don't use cite templates or link templates either. On some wikis I even managed to forbid them. ;) [22:56:37] Oh, yeah, s are pretty much as bad as . [22:56:51] With the insane citation templates, anyway.