[00:03:30] sorry if I"m being absolutely thick, but I need developer access. How do I know if I do/do not have this [00:04:36] NativeForeigner: that just means having a wiki user on wikitech.wikimedia.org more or less [00:05:10] NativeForeigner: that should also let you login on gerrit.wikimedia.org [00:05:54] ah excellent [00:06:06] I kept on clicking sign up but it wanted an account: I wanted to make sure there was no misunderstanding [00:30:35] ok, trying to set up for commits. looks like instructions for vagrant differ substantially from the standard git instructions [00:30:38] is there anything I should know here [01:18:17] Gerrit is annoying and you probably enjoy it at first. [01:18:23] probably won't * [01:18:25] Also, words are hard. [01:19:15] yup [01:19:16] figured it out [01:19:18] praise the lord [01:19:25] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141610/ [01:20:57] I was looking at the how to get code reviewed [01:21:00] any firsthand advice you could give? [01:22:20] find out who has been contributing to that extension lately [01:22:27] use the "add reviewer" button [01:29:04] NativeForeigner: What Tim said. Though you can also nudge people on IRC as well. [01:29:59] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141610/ is pretty low-hanging fruit, though, so I can't imagine it'll take more than a day or two to get merged. [01:30:11] And then it'll show up on the live site within a week or so. [01:30:33] You can add reviewers to the changeset who have previously touched the code or people you happen to know. [01:30:39] With a change that small, either is fine. [01:32:06] I'm still a bit curious why User::newFromName() doesn't handle this... [02:00:52] Carmela: yeah, I may mess with that underlying code [02:00:55] it's a bit of a hotfix [02:01:04] well not hotfix, but it's very much more utilitarian than elegant [04:10:21] we are having wikipedia work shop 50 students. please provide edit and user creation exception. [04:13:47] manikantavasu: need more info than that [04:15:27] manikantavasu: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Requesting_temporary_lift_of_IP_cap [04:19:25] Hi [04:19:25] 117.211.82.67 [04:19:38] ? [04:19:49] tuxnani: ? [04:20:00] greg-g: I'd guess that's related to manikantavasu's request [04:20:17] greg-g: they are connecting from the same IP, which was pasted [04:20:20] greg-g: I had earlier asked for adding exception for 117.211.82.67 for IP exception for user creation and edit throttle [04:20:30] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Requesting_temporary_lift_of_IP_cap [04:20:38] through Bugzilla, I added a bug [04:20:48] what's the bug number? [04:22:07] neither of your IRC handles nor the IP above turn up anything in bugzilla search [04:22:13] Could not locate the bug [04:22:19] Can I add a new bug now? [04:22:24] yes please [04:27:05] here's the bug for others following along: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67017 [04:27:47] so starts in 3 minutes? [04:28:50] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67017 [04:28:53] Yes [04:28:59] thank you [04:29:40] not done yet :) [04:30:29] YuviPanda|woozy: bored? [04:30:36] hehe [04:30:46] greg-g: are there instructions on how to make the patch? [04:30:53] also note that I don't have merge or deploy rights on mediawiki-config [04:30:53] here's a previous one: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/138902/2/wmf-config/throttle.php [04:31:00] ah cool [04:31:00] right, probably won't happen [04:31:03] :/ [04:31:11] greg-g: yeah. [04:31:16] greg-g: I can make the patch tho [04:31:36] tuxnani: no one with the right permissions is available right now, prior warning (at least a week, to be safe) is needed. [04:31:45] (well, not a week, a couple days at least) [04:31:53] given timezones [04:36:04] tuxnani: manikantavasu https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/141637/ is the patch, but there's nobody with appropriate rights to merge it, so the limit raising might not happen. [04:37:21] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25000 [04:37:47] YuviPanda|woozy: There are always people around capable of pushing out config changes. [04:38:09] sure, feel free to poke 'em, Carmela [04:38:18] I dug up https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25000 for you instead. [04:39:20] yeah, that is a useful link [06:23:58] !log FYI no gerrit mail since yesterday 15 UTC, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67018 [06:24:03] Logged the message, Master [07:31:27] ssh: Could not resolve hostname : No address associated with hostname [07:31:32] damn, no idea why I"m getting this [07:31:37] when running git review --download [07:37:01] sigh, I"ll be back tomorrow [12:34:48] Hi. Is it possible to have the password on my account changed? I have completely. lost. my. password, see. Have tried everything I can think of, for a couple of days. I don't have my email entered in my account, and I need my password to enter an email... as long as I'm logged in, I'm fine. But sooner or later I guess my browser will log me out. Since I am logged in, I can prove that it is... [12:34:49] ...my account by an edit or something [12:35:38] Or I'll simply have to register another account. I could do that. [12:37:01] My account on Wikipedia + other Wikimedia projects, that is. [12:39:36] Stighammar: no, it's not possible [12:40:10] MatmaRex: OK. Thanks for the answer. I'll get another account (and register my email) [12:48:21] MatmaRex: Oh, but this is possible, I think [12:48:48] hoo|away: did some password resets for a few accounts, and those are logged in the SAL somewhere [12:48:48] well, sure it's technically possible, but i haven't seen it ever done. [12:51:57] It's possible and we do it from time to time, but only if certain criteria are met... this is not something we/ I do often [12:52:31] Stighammar: ^^ [12:53:00] hoo|away: I realise that. You don't want zillions of people asking for password change. Then what are the criteria? I'm logged in the the projects, but as soon as I'm logged out the account is lost. So I can prove that the account is mine [12:54:06] But if you're logged in, can't you register an e-mail to your account? [12:54:09] I have about... dunna. a couple thousand edits on svwp, since march [12:54:12] in Preferences [12:54:16] no, I need to enter the password for that! [12:54:17] twkozlowski: Nope, needs password AFAIR [12:54:27] oh, right :-) [12:54:29] Stighammar: But how did you log in then? [12:55:12] hoo: permanently logged in, that's a setting in wikipedia or in the browser or both? the browser saves the data, perhaps? if so I guess it could be retrieved from the browser [12:55:43] I don't know how that works. Is it the browser or the Wikimedia software that keeps me logged in? [12:56:14] when logging in, you tick a box "keep me logged in", right? [12:56:29] Combination... the browser keeps the cookies longer and we also "remember" that (simplified) [12:58:14] Stighammar: what browser/OS combination are you using ? [12:58:30] Stighammar: So you are Stighammar on Wikimedia also? [12:59:55] NotASpy: Windows 8.1 Browser Chrome [12:59:59] hoo: yes I am [13:00:33] Stighammar: is that the browser that has your password stored ? [13:00:57] chrome stores passwords i believe.. [13:01:34] Stighammar: That account (on svwiki) was last logged in less than two days ago... how did you log in without knowing your password? [13:01:37] NotASpy: well I don't know how that works.... but I am logged in as soon as I open the browser, of that answers your question. I don't find the log in form and a long number of dots in the password field [13:02:44] hoo: you meen that my account sent the password to the server two days ago? That sounds weird [13:03:03] warpath: yeah, I believe so. [13:03:12] well, my phone, possibly. I have logged in on the phone occasionally, let's see.. [13:03:43] try this Stighammar http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/chromepass.html [13:04:03] if the pass is there, it will find it.. [13:06:08] the browser in my phone obviously has my password stored. There's a log in form and a long series of dots. yeah. warpath, I'll try your Chromepass suggestion first since I know nothing about handling my phone browser, never even managed to copy text... [13:07:08] your phone browser must be storing the password somewhere too, so there's likely going to be an application to recover the password from there too. [13:07:36] thanks a lot warpath. Hope that solves it. If not, I'll see if I can find someone helping me retrieve it from the phone. NotASpy, perhaps. [13:08:09] yeah, happy to help. [13:09:01] or try typing this in ur url "chrome://settings/passwords" without quotes [13:09:42] NotASpy, thanks a lot for sorting things out. It's not so easy when you don't understand what is really storing the password [13:10:31] sorry "chrome://settings/passwordManager" for newer browsers.. [13:10:49] btw Firefox is the best browser :P [13:10:59] it's so complicated these days, with so many browsers, plugins, addons and configurations. [13:12:42] warpath: it's there! hooray! now I'll just check that that the password is accepted so I can enter my email [13:13:38] good luck ;) [13:15:23] it worked. I'm relieved. A lot. I wouldn't have liked changing accounts. Thanks a million! [13:16:13] :) [13:16:15] Happy users are happy. [15:25:09] James_F: enjoyed your revert [16:19:37] twkozlowski: Correct language > misleading language. :-) [16:24:30] James_F: Understandable language > uncomprehensible language. :-) [16:30:37] twkozlowski: Understandable language <<<<<<<<< wrong language. [16:32:11] James_F: twkozlowski: Get a room [16:32:25] Reedy: This one normally suffices. :-) [16:32:25] Sorry? [16:43:36] James_F: I saw your quarterly pdf, looks very good. Keep up the good work and get more metrics :) [16:43:49] matanya: Will do. :-) [16:44:11] matanya: Hopefully with a real-live useful dashboard of 3–4 metrics that are clear. [16:44:28] I would love to see that [17:14:18] hmm, I'm getting a similar issue to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/git-review#.22Cannot_query_patchset_information.22 [17:14:29] I applied the patch but the same error message is still applying [17:14:57] nevermind, I feel dumb [17:14:59] I seem to have fixed it [17:21:41] Can anyone help? [17:21:56] Why doesn't this code return "02 B": {{#ifeq:{{#sub:2 B|1|2}}|{{#sub:2 B|-2|-1}}|02 B|2 B}} but this one does: {{#ifeq:{{#sub:2 B|1|2}}|{{#sub:2 B|1|2}}|02 B|2 B}} ? [18:13:25] MaxSem: I don't remember, in the end is there a class to hide content on mobile or not? "nomobile" or the previous "noprint" or whatever [18:13:46] .nomobile, yes [18:14:05] ok thanks [18:14:38] note that it's hidden with CSS now, not physically removed from HTML as it used to be [18:18:22] noted [20:34:32] Will registering my application with OAuth ([[Special:OAuthConsumerRegistration/propose]]) reveal my email address? [20:36:26] I've never seen any email, but maybe James_F and Deskana do [20:36:26] Publicly? [20:37:03] I suspect it'll be available to some people [20:37:17] If they need to contact you about the app etc [20:38:38] Is it displayed to more than [[Special:Email]] (i.e. nobody w/o database access or stupid stuff like replying to the email address [20:39:16] csteipp: ^^ ? [20:39:50] AaronSchulz: ^^^ [20:39:59] I presume you'd need to be an OAuth administrator [20:39:59] /have the mwoauthmanageconsumer right [20:40:04] Dispenser: Only to people with oauth admin rights. We use it to contact you if there's a change in something, or something's going wrong. [20:40:13] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=oauthadmin [20:41:05] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=oauthadmin [20:42:05] Yeah, the mw.o link is the list. It will include all stewards at some point soonish. [20:42:29] right [20:43:55] Oh, all Staff it looks like: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalGroupPermissions/Staff [21:04:13] that permission could/should be removed from Staff probably