[12:30:10] Is it correct that on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal?useskin=vector as anon I don't see the search bar autofocused? [12:30:10] Ah, of course: if (mw.config.get('wgIsMainPage') && mw.config.get('wgAction') === 'view') $('#searchInput').focus(); https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [12:30:10] [[Tech]]; Islahaddow; /* Urgent: IP cap lifted for edit-a-thon */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875437&oldid=8864520&rcid=5346291 [12:30:10] sigh [12:30:10] [[Tech]]; Nemo bis; /* Urgent: IP cap lifted for edit-a-thon */ +Self-help material: [[mw:Help:Mass account creation]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875474&oldid=8875437&rcid=5346304 [12:30:10] [[Tech]]; Billinghurst; /* Urgent: IP cap lifted for edit-a-thon */ one wiki? many wikis?; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875510&oldid=8875474&rcid=5346309 [12:30:10] sDrewth: just give him accountcreator/noratelimits on a random wiki and he can create accounts from there (he's not on testwiki so I can't) [12:30:10] okay, I would prefer to look to keep pertinency if we can, and want to know that (s)he is comfortable with account creator [12:30:10] Withoutaname: in compensation of forcing rebase of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/134400/ with your https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/139581 , how about some code review / +1 of my change? ;) [12:30:10] * Nemo_bis doesn't fear abuse of "noratelimits" [12:30:10] nor I, [12:30:10] idc, im just trying to push the changes through mw-config [12:30:10] just enWP is strict [12:30:10] actually, I was just thinking about how to enforce the Licensing policy the other day [12:30:10] and the Disable uploads for Small Wikis RFC [12:30:10] how about we send a mass message to disable uploads for all wikis without EDPs [12:30:10] Withoutaname: whips, and electric shock keyboards that can be remotely discharged by tcp/ip [12:30:10] that would be one way to do it ;) [12:30:11] sDrewth: there is no need to touch rights on en.wiki [12:30:11] I am aware of that, though that is my preferred space to do it [12:30:11] but not an option, so exploring others [12:30:11] meh Withoutaname, you know why nothing has ever happened about that RfC in years? because every time someone tries to do something, everyone else thinks their solution is better and the others not worth pursuing [12:30:11] Nemo_bis: funny, I thought it was because the opposers think the enforcement was too harsh [12:30:11] [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30d) to [[Tech/Archives/2014]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875606&oldid=8875510&rcid=5346317 [12:30:11] "oh it's a small wiki, give them a few more years, they'll get an EDP up and runnin" [12:30:11] [[Tech]]; Billinghurst; /* Urgent: IP cap lifted for edit-a-thon */ granted temporary account creator rights at meta; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875618&oldid=8875606&rcid=5346319 [12:30:11] Nemo_bis: the far better solution for such is for the chapters to manage their admin and account creation rights [12:30:11] sDrewth, do we have an up-to-date chart on metawiki for wikis with/without EDP [12:30:11] wtfedp? [12:30:11] [[Tech]]; Billinghurst; typo fix; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875659&oldid=8875618&rcid=5346331 [12:30:11] UDP [12:30:11] Withoutaname: I think you're wrong :) [12:30:11] Nemo_bis: about? [12:30:11] Withoutaname: "funny," etc. [12:30:11] ok, but what do you think about my proposal [12:30:11] sDrewth: chapters rarely have big problems, is that person really affiliated to a chapter? anyway, would be trivial to let sysops on chapters wikis addd noratelimits to users [12:30:11] no opinion [12:30:11] we could mass message all the wikis, "We are going to turn off uploads by default on cutoff date X. If you have an EDP up and running by that time, sign here..." etc [12:30:11] there meta page says so, so if they have a chapter, they can manage it and have responsibility when they have events, no issues for others [12:30:11] their [12:30:11] [[Tech]]; Billinghurst; /* Urgent: IP cap lifted for edit-a-thon */ changing to point to Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875688&oldid=8875659&rcid=5346335 [12:30:11] [[Tech]]; Islahaddow; /* Urgent: IP cap lifted for edit-a-thon */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8875705&oldid=8875688&rcid=5346337 [12:30:11] Withoutaname: I support any work towards the goal, but please don't message any of the wikis I already communicated to (or not in the next few weeks), i.e. focus on those with mediaWiki:licenses enabled and with more than 10 files; Robin made a nice tool to list them, https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=uploadconfig [12:30:11] wait you already sent it? where [12:30:11] Not everywhere, only some 500 wikis [12:30:11] Nemo_bis: so it's anything not in red in robin's column? [12:30:11] ok let's see [12:30:11] I think we can turn off upload automatically for closed wikis [12:30:11] heh [12:30:11] no one can upload from those anyway but stewards [12:30:11] Nemo_bis: oh by the way, do the chapter wikis want n easy way to add noratelimits to user accounts? [12:30:11] Withoutaname: sDrewth does :) can't harm [12:30:11] Though only people working on en.wiki can possibly ever have problems getting such a trivial permission, and most English speaking chapters are either dead or on their own wikis. [14:18:18] how to log in to that damn fabricator? I registered there not long after it was deployed, I can find my profile via search but when I try to log in it says that the login isnt right. It could be that I type wrong pass but how am I to restore it? [14:18:37] or it's only possible to create a new acc via oauth? [14:18:53] then what to do with the previous acc? [14:19:27] here's the search query http://fab.wmflabs.org/people/query/3T.7i21IAc9R/#R [14:20:47] I think if I file a bug to bugzilla about fabricator it would be kinda trolling :D [14:22:01] lol [14:22:19] Base-w: I think you have to delete previous cookies, I had such a problem too [14:30:59] i've got logged in via recovery using the same email which is claimed to be wrong while trying to log in [14:31:14] deleting cookies didn't help [14:47:41] btw all these images in user profiles and not only there in fabricator - what shall be their copyright status and who checks it? does wikimedia licensing policy apply to that tool? [14:54:43] Base-w: there's an entire legal department that eagerly waits for your questions to justify even more hires. :) [14:55:10] Nemo_bis: how to reach them? [14:55:39] I twice tried to ask such wmf things via email but never got any response [14:56:13] By filing a fab ticket :P [14:57:51] Nemo_bis: that's requires getting learned how to file a ticket in there [14:58:08] I've just done linking my acc in there with my wmf acc [14:58:39] it's nice of them that it's possible even if acc wasnt created via oauth originally [15:00:51] usually I go there to file a bug and then file a second about the difficulty I had filing it :P [15:01:16] We'll be grateful for your testing [15:16:27] ori: have you clicked on http://ur1.ca/hi4oa [16:33:06] hmpf, whyyy no data for frontend.assets.*.*.itwiki.* :( [18:25:52] database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. [18:25:55] Function: MessageGroupStats::forItemInternal [18:25:57] Error: 1213 Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (10.64.16.22) [18:34:25] Also, Tech News #25 has now been published: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/25 [19:47:13] Does someone know of *any* frontend** metric in graphite for itwiki? :( It always says "no data" for me [20:52:33] twkozlowski, you saw that error on a wiki with the translate extension, right? [21:08:07] Krenair: Yes, also commented on the bug [21:08:54] It's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51410