[09:06:38] When did de.wiki make VisualEditor opt-in? [09:07:00] July/August [09:08:15] That is immediately? :) [09:09:29] Yes, they had a huge vote the week it was deployed. [09:10:35] I wonder if other wikis are less angry or just less able to express anger [09:17:13] Probably not as organised as ze Germans (and Austrians, and the Swiss, and the Liechtensteiner) [09:18:45] aww https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaZZ.htm#editor_activity_levels [09:26:19] I'm trying to make sense out of https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaDE.htm#editor_activity_levels [09:28:56] Something happened in the central months of 2013 to editors with 5, 10 or 100 edits per month but I have no idea what or why [09:59:54] ooo greg-g! [10:00:39] greg-g: any details for http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-June/076914.html ? [10:00:49] specifically the Wikidata-Wikiquote bit? [10:15:23] twkozlowski: [[d:Wikidata:Wikiquote]] is supposed to say something [10:16:11] AFAIK nobody is thinking of storing strings AKA quotations on Wikidata and most other data is not used by Wikiquote (perhaps Commons images?) so not much should happen [11:10:26] Hmm (cirrus) search on en.wiki acting up [15:27:31] Didn't we use to have a meta keywords/description tag in the ? [15:28:12] I remember noticing that it was very customised for Wikipedia and not so good on Wikiquote, but that might have been 2009. [15:30:21] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19761 [16:48:02] Cirrus is failing quite often for me today [16:59:11] elastic1017.eqiad.wmnet cpu_report: down Last heartbeat 183s ago [18:49:49] Could I enquire what version of librsvg we are running in production? [18:50:05] (e.g. rsvg -v if someone has shell) [18:52:06] My bad, rsvg-convert -v [18:52:11] (probably) [18:53:42] Jarry1250, imagescalers have 'librsvg2-bin' package with ensure => 'latest' if that helps? [18:55:45] Krenair: Thanks but I'm interested in what that is being interpreted as [19:11:22] I can look it up [19:11:36] hoo: thanks :) [19:12:54] ok, my memories are bad... mw1165 is not an image scaler :P [19:15:05] hoo, you only have access to mw1165? [19:15:21] Krenair: No, but I thought it was an image scaler for some reason [19:15:27] oh, lol [19:15:47] manifests/site.pp:# mw75-80 are imagescalers (precise) [19:15:51] manifests/site.pp:# mw1153-1160 are imagescalers (precise) [19:15:53] hoo@mw1155:~$ dpkg -s librsvg2-bin [19:15:53] Package: librsvg2-bin [19:15:53] Version: 2.36.1-1wm1 [19:15:55] (shorted) [19:16:16] Jarry1250, ^ [19:23:43] hoo: Thanks. [19:43:00] You're welcome [20:04:06] Jarry1250: thanks for looking into SVG stuff. :) [20:17:54] Tech News #24 has now been published: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/24 [20:23:59] @seen MatmaRex [20:23:59] twkozlowski: Last time I saw MatmaRex they were quitting the network with reason: Client Quit N/A at 6/7/2014 6:12:45 PM (2h11m14s ago) [20:24:09] Thanks twkozlowski [20:37:09] ew, MDY [20:49:42] jackmcbarn: you realise people will have to update existing translation after your edit? [20:49:56] jackmcbarn: if so, please do alert them about your change on the Translators-l mailing list [20:50:17] (This includes me; I already translated that bit into my language.) [20:50:50] twkozlowski: yes. (it was misleading before). i'll get that sent [20:52:59] ... will no longer need dummy parameters to prevent caching... [20:53:02] How does that work? [20:54:52] twkozlowski: the confusion that it wasn't a time-based cache. it was a cache within the parser. specifically, foo{{reflist}} bar{{reflist}} didn't work before unless you changed one of the {{reflist}}s to {{reflist|dummy=1}} or something [20:55:11] should i just say there was an error to that one thing, or do i need to give the translation number of that section of the page? [20:55:29] jackmcbarn: So you only mean the English Wikipedia? [20:55:55] twkozlowski: on every wiki that wraps in a template [20:56:07] jackmcbarn: There is no preferred way; you can link to the actual item like I did in http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2014-June/002604.html [21:03:23] twkozlowski: sent [21:06:29] Didn't get it yet... [21:40:03] fyi, the search cluster is rebuilding, you *may* see other errors, but shouldn't from now on [21:43:03] ah [22:05:09] twinkle?