[01:16:52] <Gloria>	 There used to be HTML dumps.
[01:27:40] <Amgine>	 Gloria: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/static_html_dumps/
[01:28:52] <TimStarling>	 there were only like 3 of them ever
[01:31:16] <Amgine>	 yah. Is dumpHTML.php still part of the distribution?
[01:31:53] <legoktm>	 it's an extension now https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DumpHTML
[01:32:59] <Amgine>	 hehe... "Warning! This extension is not properly maintained at the moment! "
[01:39:59] <Gloria>	 People just scrape the live sites directly.
[01:40:18] <Gloria>	 Though maybe a few use the API for the rendered HTML.
[01:40:34] <Gloria>	 Still, not ideal or very efficient.
[09:47:44] <Nemo_bis>	 wow, Romain made 611 CLDR submits/votes :)
[10:33:08] <MrStradivarius>	 Hi everyone
[10:33:37] <MrStradivarius>	 So, I'm wanting to comment on the new Capiunto extension, but I'm not sure where to start
[10:35:20] <MrStradivarius>	 I have a few thoughts about what should happen to the Lua portion of it, but it would require some fairly major re-engineering of the Lua modules.
[10:37:33] <MrStradivarius>	 So I want to ask Marius about them in an informal kind of way, to see what he thinks. But I'm not sure what the usual protocol for this kind of thing is (and he's not on IRC now).
[10:38:16] <MrStradivarius>	 So what's the best way to do this? File a bug? Make a comment on Gerrit? Or something else?
[10:39:35] <MrStradivarius>	 (Marius is the author of the extension, if anyone was wondering)
[10:39:50] <Nemo_bis>	 (We know)
[10:40:17] <Nemo_bis>	 The "protocol" depends on how defensive the author of some piece of code is :)
[10:40:42] <Nemo_bis>	 In this case just dump whatever thoughts you have on the talk page and nobody will kill you
[10:41:03] <MrStradivarius>	 Hmm, extension talk page, that sounds logical
[10:41:26] <Nemo_bis>	 You can then look for him on IRC (in afternoons?) to clear up any mistunderstanding or whatever
[10:41:57] <MrStradivarius>	 Sounds like a good idea, thanks. :)
[10:42:18] <MrStradivarius>	 Afternoons for Marius will be the middle of the night for me, though.
[10:42:24] <MrStradivarius>	 I'm in Japan.
[10:44:32] <Nemo_bis>	 your mornings will be fine, he's often around
[10:44:51] <MrStradivarius>	 ok, thanks
[12:22:18] <Nnemo>	 Hello
[12:23:08] <Nnemo>	 Someone can help fixing meta.wikimedia.org please ?
[12:23:57] <andre__>	 what's broken?
[13:16:14] <Nnemo>	 andre, I have opened this discussion now : meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Announce#Typography.C2.A0.E2.80.94.C2.A0Space_before_colon
[13:16:19] <Nnemo>	 You are welcome to help :-) 
[13:25:56] <Nnemo>	 bye
[14:31:35] <mitch>	 hey there
[14:31:44] <mitch>	 my mediawiki isn't working very well
[14:31:51] <mitch>	 it needs large amount of ram
[14:32:22] <mitch>	 and if i want to open a special page it leads to an internal server error
[14:32:37] <mitch>	 can somebody help me?
[14:32:40] <mitch>	 should i post log files?
[14:33:05] <Reedy>	 You're off topic in here ;)
[14:34:32] <mitch>	 hey reedy, i've lost connection earlier that day... do you have any clue whats going on?
[14:34:50] <andre__>	 mitch: I'd recommend to ask in #mediawiki and yes, pasting a server log file might be helpful
[14:34:51] <Reedy>	 mediawiki isn't lightweight for a start
[14:34:59] <andre__>	 general info: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug
[14:38:18] <mitch>	 reedy: thanks, i've sent you an excerpt via private chat. thanks for your support
[16:46:02] <sumanah>	 hi jeremyb_!
[17:03:21] <sumanah>	 hey jeremyb_ I'm having trouble with the directions you gave me re cutting this video - got a moment?
[17:04:35] <sumanah>	 Never mind! Got it! Sorry
[17:46:38] <sumanah>	 ok, jeremyb_ I am attempting to reduce the size of this giant MP4 so I can give it to the transcriber better
[17:48:09] <jeremyb_>	 sumanah: got it?
[17:49:00] <sumanah>	 I was able to download the big file which is now 493 megs I believe
[17:49:01] <jeremyb_>	 sumanah: i got it down from 493M to 402M with bzip2
[17:49:27] * sumanah will try that
[17:49:56] * sumanah looks at bzip2 man page
[17:50:06] <jeremyb_>	 just `bzip2 filename`
[17:50:15] <sumanah>	 ok
[17:50:55] * sumanah waits for bzip to work its magick ;-)
[17:51:15] <sumanah>	 Handbrake is giving me guff when I try to add its PPA :/
[17:51:30] <jeremyb_>	 you mean to shrink it?
[17:51:42] <jeremyb_>	 is 400 too much?
[17:52:00] <sumanah>	 yeah
[17:52:16] <jeremyb_>	 we could cut the video quality
[17:52:18] <sumanah>	 I'm someplace where I'm uploading at like 100K/s
[17:52:25] <jeremyb_>	 you just care about audio
[17:52:29] <jeremyb_>	 right?
[17:52:37] <jeremyb_>	 or even just make it an audio only file
[17:52:44] <sumanah>	 yeah, cut the video entirely, just the audio right now would be great
[17:52:48] <sumanah>	 right
[17:52:48] <jeremyb_>	 k
[17:52:54] * sumanah was searching around figuring out how to do this
[17:56:38] <jeremyb_>	 -of rawaudio -oac mp3lame -ovc copy
[17:56:58] <jeremyb_>	 got down to 45MB
[17:56:58] <jeremyb_>	 so
[17:57:19] <jeremyb_>	 sumanah: mencoder -ss 1:46:30 -endpos 1952 -of rawaudio -oac mp3lame -ovc copy in.mp4 -o out.mp3
[17:57:33] <sumanah>	 I'll try it, thx
[17:57:47] <sumanah>	 bzip2 overwrote my original file so I need to expand it again?!
[17:58:24] <sumanah>	 (doing so)
[17:58:29] <jeremyb_>	 did you do curl first or straight to mencoder?
[17:58:51] <sumanah>	 straight to mencoder
[17:59:28] <jeremyb_>	 ok. so, then skip the -ss and -endpos parts
[18:00:24] <sumanah>	 so just mencoder -of rawaudio -oac mp3lame -ovc copy sumanah-wikicon-2014-cut.mp4 -o sumanah-wcusa-2014.mp3 ?
[18:00:40] <sumanah>	 yay it seems to be working. thanks for your time jeremyb_ 
[18:04:46] <sumanah>	 yep, got it jeremyb_ - thank you!
[18:04:50] <sumanah>	 I've learned something :-)
[18:05:21] * jeremyb_ too but... i won't necessarily remember it. and you're gone!
[18:05:26] * jeremyb_ runs away
[19:19:03] <Josve05a>	 okey...now I think I might be right...
[19:19:40] <Josve05a>	 I need help with coding a simple template on Wikipedia...can someone help me?
[22:33:14] <marxarelli>	 quit
[22:53:19] <sumanah>	 Meeting in #wikimedia-office in 7 min about the grid system RfC https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Grid_system
[23:01:03] <sumanah>	 Right now - #wikimedia-office We're discussing Pau Giner's proposal for "a Grid system in MediaWiki to simplify the creation of user interfaces and make them ready for multiple screen sizes."