[00:22:01] Request: GET http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Better_PHP_profiling, from 208.80.154.51 via cp1052 frontend ([10.2.2.25]:80), Varnish XID 4270558351 [00:22:11] happened once, went away on refresh [00:22:17] (error) [00:35:47] --- Cannot join #wikimedia-operations (You are banned). [00:35:49] yay [00:36:11] Sorry for the flood earlier. That should not happen that often anymore. I set my reconnect to 2 minutes [00:36:20] from 10 seconds [00:36:21] :P [00:37:14] QueenOfFrance [00:46:44] Can someone get me unbanned from #wikimedia-operations [00:46:59] I had connection issues with a specific freenode server earlier today. [00:47:20] asimov.freenode.net [00:51:00] * Bsadowski1 pokes apergos and Gloria [00:58:17] Bsadowski1 you'll have to wait [00:58:22] Why? [00:58:35] they're currently talking something else in there [00:58:56] neither of those two users have ops in there [00:59:10] oh [00:59:11] k [01:06:26] Jasper_Deng: What is happening in there [01:06:31] ??? [01:06:35] site issue [01:06:36] I can't join to find out :( [01:06:42] Tell meeee [01:06:43] Bsadowski1: you can always look at the logs [01:06:46] lies [01:07:00] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-operations/?C=M;O=D [01:07:19] Bsadowski1, why did paravoid ban you in the first place? [01:07:54] connection problems [01:08:23] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-operations/20140429.txt [01:08:48] I had connection issues when I wasn't paying attention to TeamViewer [01:09:21] I had high latency and then I pinged out and rejoined and got flooded out a bunch of times when reconnecting [01:10:12] It's solved now in two ways. I am now on a different Freenode server and I made the reconnect time longer (2 minutes instead of 10 seconds) [01:12:15] Bsadowski1, ok, Coren is looking into it [01:12:35] unbanned [01:13:03] I don't get why 10 seconds is the HexChat default [01:51:20] Tell meeee [01:51:29] Because people like that can't handle 2 minutes. :-) [03:19:41] Is anyone here good with gallery syntax? [03:20:34] I have been using , but it's being weird. Sometimes all four images appear on one line, sometimes three on one line and one on another. [03:21:20] What I really want is a "no matter how wide the screen, these four images together appear as one line, the width of the available area" [11:46:36] How to get stats for a given wikipedia at a given date? [11:46:52] Can we add a date component to /w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json&siprop=statistics&sifilteriw=local [11:46:53] ? [11:47:50] tuxnani: you'd also need a new db table to hold all the information [11:48:21] but "can" = probably yes, if somebody makes the patches [11:48:37] mutante: Can i query existing wmf tables? [11:49:37] tuxnani: you can start a virtual machine in WMF labs, write a script that fetches https://wikistats.wmflabs.org/api.php?action=dump&table=wikipedias&format=xml once daily [11:49:47] and put it into a db [11:50:05] we should have added historic data to that anyways [11:50:18] and you dont't have to talk to each wiki again, wikistats already does it [11:50:33] just doesnt save the history [11:51:15] stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaTE.htm doesnt show stats say, for march yet [11:51:21] how can i check on those? [11:51:45] https://wikistats.wmflabs.org/display.php?t=wp [11:52:21] you can have it in HTML, wiki syntax, csv or xml [11:52:46] if you want to fetch it once a day and make graphs, would be nice [11:52:51] just didnt get to it [12:35:21] job queue on Meta looks higher than it should be [12:36:46] me no like https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/graph.php?r=month&z=xlarge&c=Miscellaneous+eqiad&h=terbium.eqiad.wmnet&jr=&js=&v=600868&m=Global_JobQueue_length [13:40:03] sigh, I miss the old message bar so much [14:13:06] I just went to the en.wp main page and it showed me as not logged in, but when I attempted to log in it said I was already logged in; it seems to only be treating me as logged out on the Main Page and its related pages [14:13:26] I"m also getting the "Central log in" notice on en:wp's Talk:Main Page [14:14:27] what's going on [14:14:51] Ryulong, maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BYPASS ? [14:15:37] nope [14:16:46] if I edit the page I get the normal version [14:16:50] but it's fucking up on the main page [14:17:23] it's doing this on every damn page [14:18:00] Ryulong: hey [14:18:11] just found out what this is [14:18:13] fixing it [14:18:15] sorry about that [14:18:23] and many thanks for reporting it, it would have gone unnoticed [14:19:07] what is this odd error [14:19:14] that you've discovered [14:20:12] we pushed an emergency change to our caches configuration due to another breakage [14:20:21] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/130336 [14:50:48] seems to be working right now [15:48:55] quiddity: is there a limit to the number of users one can ping with an edit? [16:11:34] Nemo_bis, yes, 100, as of June, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48882 (posibly that bug should be re-opened) [16:11:56] ok [16:55:38] legoktm: is there a magic word to translate a local title to its wikidata ID? or must one use API? [18:09:27] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64532#c9 [18:09:55] Why do these messages use this weird capitalisation? [18:11:53] \0/ http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/changeset/10166 [18:14:25] :-/ [18:14:46] i wish i knew Central Yupik [18:15:59] We all do, we all do [18:19:25] but, Central Siberian Yupik , or Central Alaskan Yup'ik ?!?! [18:22:37] ori: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64532#c9 will need a change of capitalization [18:22:54] ori: would you need me to be around if I submit a patch for this to today's SWAT window? [18:23:03] or should I use the one tomorrow? [18:24:08] twkozlowski: you don't have to be around [18:24:20] if it breaks i'll just find some other scapegoat to blame [18:25:26] * YuviPanda blames wikitext [18:25:45] stupid idea to have the group begin with a capital letter [18:25:49] the group name* [18:38:32] hello [18:38:49] I have a thumbnail issue on Wikisource [18:38:59] is this a known issue? [18:41:34] https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Kropotkine_%E2%80%94_Paroles_d%27un_R%C3%A9volt%C3%A9.djvu/158 [18:41:42] https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Kropotkine_%E2%80%94_Paroles_d%27un_R%C3%A9volt%C3%A9.djvu/186 [18:42:04] however clicking on "file", I get the image [18:48:01] anyone alive here? [18:48:43] yes [18:49:39] yannf: and what are you expecting to get? [18:50:04] I get nothing [18:50:24] on several pages of this book [18:50:42] ah, you mean the image on the side doesn't load? [18:51:07] yes [18:52:16] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikisource/fr/thumb/b/b3/Kropotkine_%E2%80%94_Paroles_d%27un_R%C3%A9volt%C3%A9.djvu/page186-3314px-Kropotkine_%E2%80%94_Paroles_d%27un_R%C3%A9volt%C3%A9.djvu.jpg [18:52:21] I get the image here [18:52:55] page 186 [18:53:37] again here https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Kropotkine_%E2%80%94_Paroles_d%27un_R%C3%A9volt%C3%A9.djvu/203 [18:54:12] hmph, i attempted to purge the file and now no thumbnails load at all [18:54:39] AaronSchulz: help, https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Fichier:Kropotkine_—_Paroles_d'un_Révolté.djvu refuses to generate any thumbnails [18:55:13] it works on some pages https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Kropotkine_%E2%80%94_Paroles_d%27un_R%C3%A9volt%C3%A9.djvu/157 [18:56:07] yannf: no, it doesn't for me [18:56:23] yannf: it will probably stop working for you too if you refresh the thumbnail page [18:56:32] ah, this was in my cache then [18:57:55] actually this file should be on Commons [18:58:12] so I will move it there and see if it gets better [19:16:07] MatmaRex, it seems it is not limited to this file [19:16:31] https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Page%3ARevue_des_Deux_Mondes_-_1843_-_tome_3.djvu/970 [19:21:15] yannf: I get "Error generating thumbnail" error like in https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Revue_des_Deux_Mondes_-_1843_-_tome_3.djvu/page970-1024px-Revue_des_Deux_Mondes_-_1843_-_tome_3.djvu.jpg [19:21:47] Tpt, yes, me too [19:22:05] I believe it's an issue with media backend [19:23:05] should I open a bug report? [19:23:08] twkozlowski: are you sure this is the right approach? (capitalizing the first letter of the group name, that is) [19:23:37] yannf: Yes, I think so [19:23:46] ok [19:30:09] done [19:30:15] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64622 [19:32:54] moving the file from WS to Commons didn't change anything [19:47:57] yannf: Thanks [19:54:41] ori: Yes. [19:55:04] ori: For now, at least; otherwise, the translations will not be shown properly. [19:57:20] ori: but at some point in the future, we should change the group name globally (it's enabled on a few wikis) & all related interface messages to conform to our standards, ie. all lowercase as superm401 commented [19:59:06] twkozlowski: Nikerabbit (on #wikimedia-dev) said: ori: umm from i18n point yes... just wondering whether it will break any already assigned permissions refering to the old case [19:59:36] I'm OK with deploying it, I just don't have the time to review it adequately so I want to make sure it's OK [19:59:47] ori: That's why I asked them not to add any users to the group yet. [20:00:00] twkozlowski: k, makes sense [20:00:16] I don't know if the change to all lowercase will break existing user groups on other wikis. [20:00:23] Should be tested before we do that. [20:00:53] In the meantime, let fawiki do their thing [20:01:32] * ori nods [20:01:39] a sysadmin or steward should empty the groups and reassign permissions after they're renamed [20:02:01] otherwise Reedy will have to empty dead groups in the DB as usual [20:07:17] Is action=info really the easiest way to get the ID of a Wikidata entity associated to a title? [20:18:15] Nemo_bis: You can do it in Lua I think, but since there is no tracking of entity usage on client sites, it won't update properly [20:19:26] [13:12:25] Is action=info really the easiest way to get the ID of a Wikidata entity associated to a title? <-- or look at the "edit links" button [20:20:24] I just wget'ed a list of action=info URLs and used grep [20:20:44] teh apotheosis of [quick and] dirty [20:21:49] heh :P [21:51:15] 10 minutes till we discuss Ryan's and Tyler's RfCs in #wikimedia-office https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-04-29 [22:04:56] Hey all. I am on an odyssey to understand why keeps acting up on me. Does anyone here understand galleries at a high level? [22:15:57] Does anyone know how to force a gallery to put all of the images on one row, no matter the screen width? [22:20:05] Sven_Manguard: I'm pretty sure you can't do that; it's intended by design to wrap. [22:20:32] James_F: I've got four images, and the look fine in one row on 1280 width, and look fine in one row on 1600 width, but for some reason when I use , half the time it appears on one row, half the time on two on my 1600 width screen. [22:21:24] Sven_Manguard: OK… Possibly some JS that's non-deterministic and wiggling your monitor width? [22:21:40] Sven_Manguard: That said, designing for a particular resolution is always a bad idea… [22:22:12] James_F: I'm not doing that, as much as designing so that it looks good on the main sizes [22:22:47] http://www.viewlike.us/test.php#u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Screenshot|1280|768|1 [22:23:01] http://www.viewlike.us/test.php#u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Screenshot|1600|768|1 [22:23:10] That's it at 150 [22:23:12] that's fine [22:23:33] in 160 though, half the time, at 1600 it's on two lines, and half the time it's on one line [22:27:27] James_F: does it appear as one row for you at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Screenshot (and what is your screen resolution) [22:27:50] Sven_Manguard: Yes, at a window width of ~1300px. [22:27:58] Good. [22:28:19] I want it to look good at every size between 1280 and 1920 [22:28:26] outside of that, I'm not going to worry [22:28:52] Also one row here. [22:29:15] sjoerddebruin: thanks, what's your width? [22:29:51] 2560, only using the left side of the screen. :) [22:30:06] Alright [22:31:11] so, just for context, one day that page is going to be a landing platform for an effort to get video game studios to release assets under a free license. Once I get some skeleton content in, I'm going to bring in other video game editors to flush it out [22:31:21] it will probably undergo significant revision [22:31:41] but, well, it needs to look good. Ultimately, yeah, my target audience is probably going to have large, fancy screens, but I can't worry about pleasing the 5% of screens that are outside of the 1280-1980 range [22:32:17] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118656/1/languages/messages/MessagesSh.php Who can help me?