[07:57:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Turns out echo sends a thousand times less notifications than enotif. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Notifications#Research_Questions
[07:58:17] <Nemo_bis>	 (Or something like that; there is some more stuff in there but not much.)
[07:58:53] <Nemo_bis>	 So my enotifwatchlist bugs probably have had an impact 2-3 orders of magnitude higher than echo on people's email, not bad. :P And they've not even let me complete the job.
[08:23:58] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Robot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30d) to [[Tech/Archives/2014]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8315343&oldid=8017403&rcid=5215771
[08:24:46] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Nthep; /* Mobile apps */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8315348&oldid=8315343&rcid=5215772
[11:16:10] <jayvdb>	 i tried to set up a developer account, but it keeps saying there is an error :/  "There was either an authentication database error or you are not allowed to update your external account."
[11:17:47] <Reedy>	 Where?
[11:33:01] <jayvdb>	 Reedy: wikitech.wikimedia.org
[11:36:44] <jayvdb>	 if it is relevant, I was 'john' on toolserver , and jayvdb in the old svn repo (pywiki only commits iirc)
[11:38:16] <mutante>	 jayvdb: it might be relevant that you were already svn user indeed
[11:38:30] <mutante>	 there were some special instructions for "user was in svn before" afair
[11:38:34] <mutante>	 ehmm...
[11:51:52] <jayvdb>	 I may have fallen through a crack.  in 2012 Sumana Harihareswara wrote "I've decided that we shall just create Gerrit accounts for all the SVN committers who already have email addresses listed in their Subversion USERINFO."  apparently that didnt include me.  a few more recent emails have Ryan Lane manually linking SVN accounts to new accounts, etc.
[11:52:50] <mutante>	 jayvdb: no, the user does exist
[11:53:02] <mutante>	 jayvdb: 	homeDirectory: /home/jayvdb
[11:53:06] <mutante>	 UID 1130
[11:53:12] <mutante>	 hold on
[11:54:57] <mutante>	 jayvdb: so if Ryan already linked you, then that is what i wanted to do
[11:57:27] <jayvdb>	 Ryan hasnt done anything for me
[11:59:34] <mutante>	 searches for docs
[11:59:36] <mutante>	  !add-labs-user
[11:59:39] <mutante>	 !add-labs-user
[11:59:52] <mutante>	 (a wikitech page said to use this)
[12:00:07] <mutante>	 " If you currently have SVN access, then you have an account, but need to have it linked to Labs (how-to for admins: !add-labs-user)."
[12:05:20] <mutante>	 jayvdb: please come to #wikimedia-labs 
[16:56:03] <greg-g>	 James_F: thanks for the deploy calendar archive, sir.
[16:56:14] * James_F  grins.

[22:14:47] <Cyberpower678>	 Umm...Wikipedia is down
[22:15:05] <Cyberpower678>	 PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.24wmf1/extensions/GettingStarted/Hooks.php line 463: 
[22:15:05] <Cyberpower678>	 Call to a member function getId() on a non-object
[22:15:16] <StevenW>	 superm401: ^
[22:15:16] <sumanah>	 it's up for me
[22:15:33] <Cyberpower678>	 en.wikipedia.
[22:15:36] <sumanah>	 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wikipedia.org says it's up
[22:15:47] <sumanah>	 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/en.wikipedia.org is up
[22:16:01] <sumanah>	 Hmmm
[22:16:04] <sumanah>	 are you logged in?
[22:16:17] <StevenW>	 I am not replicating this error in a fresh account
[22:16:21] <StevenW>	 even when using GettingStarted
[22:16:38] <Cyberpower678>	 Logged in and trying to push an edit to WP:VPP
[22:17:10] <Cyberpower678>	 I hit refresh and I keep hitting the error.
[22:17:25] <StevenW>	 I get the same error when trying to save an edit
[22:17:57] <sumanah>	 I was able to save an edit just now to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous) - no prob
[22:18:10] <sumanah>	 (was logged in)
[22:18:21] <Cyberpower678>	 I'm glad I'm not going crazy
[22:18:32] <Cyberpower678>	 sumanah, try VPP not VPM
[22:18:32] <sumanah>	 :)
[22:18:47] <sumanah>	 Cyberpower678: I was wary of putting a test edit on something important!
[22:18:58] <sumanah>	 I will square my shoulders and do it anyway
[22:20:01] <sumanah>	 YES, ERROR. GOT IT.
[22:20:03] <sumanah>	 Weird!
[22:20:07] <sumanah>	 I wonder why, on THAT page?
[22:20:09] <sumanah>	 greg-g: ^
[22:20:11] <Cyberpower678>	 I know right?
[22:20:21] <sumanah>	 Same error
[22:20:33] <StevenW>	 It's not just that page. I get the same editing my sandbox
[22:20:36] <StevenW>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64573
[22:20:51] <Cyberpower678>	 I've got an important RfC going on the page. :p
[22:21:02] <sumanah>	 I'm glad I tried a different page - and succeeded - weird. I wonder what the commonality is?
[22:22:48] <Cyberpower678>	 Large page sizes?
[22:22:57] <Krenair>	 Were you trying to save a null edit by any chance?
[22:23:11] <Cyberpower678>	 NO.  Removing blatant advertising on the page.
[22:23:20] <Krenair>	 OKAY.
[22:23:22] <sumanah>	 I personally was trying to save a one-carriage-return edit. Does that count as a null edit? (I got the error)
[22:23:26] <greg-g>	 on it in -operations, thanks
[22:23:31] <sumanah>	 Thanks greg
[22:23:33] <Cyberpower678>	 Krenair, sorry.  Shift got stuck. :p
[22:23:34] <greg-g>	 np
[22:23:39] <Krenair>	 :p
[22:23:49] <greg-g>	 superm401 is on it, to be more clear :)
[22:24:31] <Krenair>	 Well $revision passed to PageContentSaveComplete is null