[02:10:33] Somebody better [02:11:46] Somebody there? [10:50:39] @trusted [10:50:39] I trust: petan.*wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@mediawiki/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), [12:57:52] I have a question ... it seems like the typo refresh has broke some main pages (examples: https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Pagrindinis_puslapis?useskin=vector & https://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Hauptseite?useskin=vector) [12:58:19] how to go about it? I'm reluctant to change anything as with the skin I use (monobook) everything seems fine [12:58:54] Glaisher: ^ [12:59:05] ? [12:59:16] Vogone: There are bugs about it [12:59:26] frwp main page was also broken, I think [12:59:27] Glaisher: where? [12:59:28] header [12:59:29] Vogone: revert typography refresh for main page [12:59:43] Steinsplitter: how can I do this? [13:00:17] Vogone: adding a div with the typography refresh ouptout script [14:44:03] Hello! At every wikipedia-laguage-site there is an external link to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/How_to_contribute with the text "Developers". Could someone please change this to an internal link? [14:46:22] Josve05a: what do you mean? [14:48:00] At the bottom on every Wikipedia, there is a "Privacy policy About Wikipedia Disclaimers Contact Wikipedia *Developers* Mobile view" [14:48:01] Vogone, presumable [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/How_to_contribute Developers] -> [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/How to contribute|Developers]] [14:48:12] presumably* [14:48:36] ah [14:49:02] and how is the latter internal? it still redirects to another site [14:49:41] It does not show the "arrow" picture next to the link. [14:50:24] Hi all [14:50:28] it uses double brackets which represent internal links in mediawiki [14:56:46] Should I ask at #mediawiki ? [14:57:12] Josve05a: nah, this is a better place [14:57:42] i think this is Wikimedia-wikis-specific, not in MediaWiki [14:58:03] yes, this code is in the WikimediaMessages extension [15:02:55] i wonder why it's like this. i think it used to look normal [15:03:01] (ie, without the arrow) [15:03:08] * MatmaRex goes to figure out [15:04:33] why is that repo so stupidly large… [15:09:08] Zugriff verweigert [15:09:08] Datei „mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/transcoded/1/1d/Otrs_newby.webm/Otrs_newby.webm.360p.ogv“ existiert nicht. [15:09:12] o_O [15:19:46] ugh, this "Developers" link is quite messed up [15:28:17] Krenair: wanna test and review? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/127437 [15:28:27] Josve05a: that should kill the arrow ^ [15:30:11] MatmaRex, I don't see an arrow on mediawiki.org.. [15:30:27] Krenair: i think mw.org has some overridden local styles [15:30:36] i see it on pl.wp and en.wp for example [15:31:27] that link shouldn't have class=external anyway. [15:31:53] oh yeah, I see it on enwiki [15:33:46] MatmaRex, but I don't see the arrow on my local wiki [15:36:25] * MatmaRex stabs in the general direction of Vector [15:36:53] well then i guess this was a bug in the css somewhere that was since fixed [15:37:30] on master Vector only styles #content .external with the arrow [15:37:45] !g a46391b7 [15:38:00] no bot here? gods [15:38:10] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124618/ [15:38:28] this is the change that fixed the arrow [15:38:45] 1.24wmf1 [15:39:03] still, that should shouldn't have class=external, so i think my patch is useful anyway [15:39:10] that link shouldn't* [15:39:41] 1.24wmf1 already? huh [15:40:49] Josve05a: sooo, this will fix itself next thursday. :) [15:41:34] Thanks! I will report back to the sv.wikipedia Wikipedia-pump! [15:41:53] since it was there this question was brought to my attention [15:42:15] thanks for reporting it :) [15:57:12] MatmaRex, btw, earlier you mentioned repo size [15:57:32] yeah? [15:57:37] you can run git gc to make it much smaller [15:57:49] i did and it didn't [15:57:56] oh. [15:58:02] ok then. [15:58:03] i have no idea what was in that repo's history to make it ~30 MB [15:59:02] probably a lot of i18n commits [15:59:18] MatmaRex: you work for wmf? [15:59:27] Steinsplitter: nope [16:00:22] Steinsplitter, you can find a list of -most- people working for WMF on https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors [16:00:44] Krenair: i know, not all nicknames written therte [16:00:48] -t [17:18:30] Hello again... [17:19:10] Is it possible to make a template to be able to be subst:ed inside ref-tags. [17:43:44] hi [17:43:54] why https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Користувач:Максим_Підліснюк/refTulbar tag doesnt work? [17:44:31] (syntaxhighlight/source) [17:52:05] I've found out that I shall use lang instead of language attribute [18:16:14] . [20:34:18] twkozlowski: ping [20:34:31] twkozlowski: please check https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2014/17&diff=8219520&oldid=8216592 [20:34:44] well, the link should be tvar but anything else? [20:44:31] PiRSquared: What does it mean, your preference will be lost? [20:45:06] not sure honestly :/ [20:45:14] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63915#c1 [20:45:29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#TeX_not_rendered [20:45:41] twkozlowski: what does it indicate to you? [20:48:43] PiRSquared: Oh, that's helpful, thanks [20:48:55] Reviewing other sources right now, will get back to this [20:49:35] okay [20:55:56] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-April/076087.html [20:56:15] I don't think this is possible, and it works in my news aggregator [20:57:17] I subscribed to Tech News in my liferea, and it works out-of-the-box [20:57:56] Testing WALLCHAN. [21:23:33] PiRSquared: MathJax renders all kind of formulas, right? mathematical, chemical, etc? [21:24:10] twkozlowski: Yeah [21:24:13] any

[21:24:26] TeX is used for chemical formulas, isn't it?
[21:24:57] I'm not sure if may chemists use TeX... it's much better suited for math typesetting than chemical typesetting
[21:25:08] PiRSquared: I'm thinking something like
[21:25:31] just H

₂O is probably easier than $\textrm{H}_2\textrm{O}$ ;-) [21:25:40] valhallasw: yep, right [21:26:50] There is a problem with the rendering of formulas with [[mw:Extension:Math#MathJax|MathJax]]. If you enabled MathJax in your [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|preferences]], you might need to do it again. [21:26:55] PiRSquared: ^^ [21:28:18] That looks good. [21:29:44] PiRSquared: OK, will do it this way, then [21:29:59] twkozlowski: do *what* again? [21:30:00] Thanks for adding this item —– we would've missed it if it wasn't for you [21:30:14] 'turn it off and on again'? [21:30:15] if you enabled... you might need to do it again [21:30:36] valhallasw: riiight. thanks :-) [21:31:10] (or even better: turn the setting off and on again) [21:31:22] twkozlowski: how important does something need to be to be added as a problem? [21:31:50] PiRSquared: it needs to be an outage, or it needs to affect multiple wikis [21:44:38] Tech News #17 (2014) has now been published: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/17 [21:47:06] oh nice, feeds [21:47:49] Just for English [21:48:03] You need to click a link to read a version in different languages [21:48:06] Sorry about that. [21:48:18] s/languages/language [21:52:49] On an unrelated note [21:53:17] Why does Phabricator say "twkozlowski added a comment." at the bottom of http://fab.wmflabs.org/T119 ? [21:53:26] I didn't add nothing. [21:53:39] errrrrrrrrr [21:53:57] twkozlowski: GlobalCssJs isn't really deployed for user testing, it was more for dev testing :/ [21:54:05] people are just going to find that it doesn't work [21:54:29] legoktm: really? works for me [21:54:41] :/ It can be removed if you want [21:54:47] [21:54:55] blame PiRSquared :) [21:55:16] I thought it was interesting enough [21:55:18] it'll "work" but the cache won't invalidate properly due to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62602#c9 [21:57:33] twkozlowski, eh, is the VE tabs not being changed on EP pages thing really that notable? :/ [21:57:52] blame James_F|Away [21:58:18] * legoktm hands twkozlowski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLAMEWHEEL [21:58:19] He thought it notable, and who am I to say otherwise? :-) [21:59:32] twkozlowski: do you think the GlobalCssJs was notable? [21:59:58] well, I just don't want people going ooh let me test and then finding out it doesn't work [22:00:16] See [22:00:23] You can fix it before it reaches the public [22:00:31] 07:00 UTC on Monday [22:00:37] Ready, steady, go! :-) [22:00:40] :D [22:00:42] * legoktm removes [22:01:17] I'll make sure to add it once the bug is fixed [22:01:28] sorry [22:01:48] PiRSquared: Mind deleting the existing translations? [22:02:27] Sorry to bug you, but I'm no admin on Meta :-) [22:03:59] no worries :) [22:04:34] twkozlowski: don't need to be an admin [22:04:36] Thanks for a quick reaction, legoktm [22:04:51] PiRSquared: oh, it will be removed by the bot? [22:04:55] I think just purging a translation unit fixes it [22:04:58] there's a bug for that [22:05:45] idk what ticket # though [22:06:06] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translations:Tech/News/2014/17/31/es [22:08:17] same for fi, he and ja [22:08:58] Fixed I think? [22:09:11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17?limit=3 [22:10:07] Should I delete the Translations: ns page too? Is it needed? [22:10:51] it's fixed [22:12:34] PiRSquared: Yeah, I'd say delete [22:12:58] FuzzyBot already removed it, but will do [22:15:53] I need help from a translation admin on mediawiki [22:16:39] se4598: what is your request? [22:16:42] do you mean mediawiki wiki? [22:16:51] I am TA on mediawiki.org [22:18:24] PiRSquared: can you please mark https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Survey translateable into German, I have recieved a request from Fabrice, but the current translation settings doesn't allow doing it. [22:19:12] se4598: why is it restricted translations anyway? [22:19:15] ??? [22:21:18] PiRSquared: don't know, but Fabrice+Team want's to run the survey for beta users on dewiki in the near future prior to wider deployment [22:24:08] Keegan: ^ [22:24:38] Hi, I'll unrestrict it [22:24:44] thanks for the poke :) [22:24:53] Keegan: already done [22:25:04] @ se4598 [22:25:18] Ah, good, thanks [22:25:47] I was trying to get it nice and clean to just translate the survey text and not the *entire* page [22:25:49] The Translate interface makes you do a fake edit in order to change these settings it seems :/ [22:26:01] thanks PiRSquared [22:26:13] True. I usually leave an extra space for null editing because of that [22:26:34] Keegan: I removed the restriction, but kept priority languages (and added de) is that good? [22:27:04] yes yes :) [22:27:25] Keegan: Does this text goes directly in the survey form? and where can I see it? [22:28:19] I assume it's manually put somewhere in surveymonkey? [22:28:21] se4598: we copy the text over to surveymonkey [22:28:34] ok [22:29:12] Specifically, Fabrice copies it over. He'll probably do that early next week when most are done