[09:08:37] <twkozlowski>	 yay \o/ yay \o/ yay \o/
[09:09:39] <twkozlowski>	 Tech News can now be read via a web feed in RSS/Atom!
[09:09:46] <twkozlowski>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeed&feed=technews&feedformat=atom
[09:09:49] <twkozlowski>	 yay \o/ yay \o/ yay \o/
[09:24:39] <gry>	 thank you, twkozlowski
[09:33:20] <Nemo_bis>	 twkozlowski: can you also make a twitter feed while you're at it?
[09:33:50] <Nemo_bis>	 we should also add it to the Wikimedia planet
[09:34:14] <twkozlowski>	 A Twitter feed?
[09:34:17] <twkozlowski>	 Why?
[09:34:43] <Nemo_bis>	 To increase distribution
[09:34:49] <Nemo_bis>	 Planet is fine to start with
[09:34:55] <twkozlowski>	 Guillaume tweets a shorter version each Monday
[09:34:59] <twkozlowski>	 https://twitter.com/mediawiki
[09:35:19] <Nemo_bis>	 aww humans stealing jobs to bots :P
[09:36:00] <twkozlowski>	 Well, we'd have to set up a different feed anyway.
[09:36:17] <twkozlowski>	 https://twitter.com/technews
[09:36:31] <twkozlowski>	 make your compatriotrs drop this, then we'll talk :-P
[09:36:48] <twkozlowski>	 compatriots*
[09:51:08] <mutante>	 Nemo_bis: twkozlowski https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/127222/1
[11:00:42] <twkozlowski>	 Nemo_bis: Soon in your language?
[11:02:03] <Nemo_bis>	 twkozlowski: why not add a feed for each language? at least for the regularly translated ones
[11:02:23] <Nemo_bis>	 but let's first see how the feed is used
[11:03:20] <twkozlowski>	 Oh.
[11:03:43] <twkozlowski>	 You mean like Tech/News/{{CURRENTYEAR}}/{{CURRENTWEEK}}/uk for instance
[11:07:34] <Nemo_bis>	 I suppose so
[11:08:25] <Nemo_bis>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats/agg-Tech#sortable:3=desc
[11:10:34] <twkozlowski>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=agg-Tech&language=pl&filter=!translated&action=translate
[11:10:47] <twkozlowski>	 Using wikitext as a discussion system is antiquated, opaque, and frankly embarrassing in its difficulty.  New users are often scared away by viewing talk pages.  They are often afraid of "breaking" them and, once inside the code, don't have a clue about how to respond.  There isn't a reply button.  How do you indicate that you are replying to someone in particular?  What are all these curly braces?
[11:10:53] <twkozlowski>	 Are we really supposed to translate that?
[11:12:52] <Nemo_bis>	 I suppose not; just remove 
[11:23:52] <Nemo_bis>	 twkozlowski: afaik there are things like -1w https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News&diff=8145547&oldid=8071932
[11:24:15] <Nemo_bis>	 and #time
[12:26:27] <twkozlowski>	 Nemo_bis: Thanks. I should do this at some point.
[12:50:36] <Nemo_bis>	 twkozlowski: -1w should Just Work (TM) ; if you don't care about the overlap between weeks
[14:08:24] <Nemo_bis>	 twkozlowski: it seems cool kids don't use feeds http://fab.wmflabs.org/T126
[14:10:54] <twkozlowski>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeed&feed=technews&feedformat=rss
[14:10:59] <twkozlowski>	 says GMT instead of UTC?
[14:12:05] <twkozlowski>	 Weird since GMT is now UTC+01:00
[14:13:45] <valhallasw>	 twkozlowski: huh? 
[14:13:55] <valhallasw>	 twkozlowski: the current time in Greenwich is not GMT :-)
[14:14:10] <twkozlowski>	 ?
[14:14:36] <valhallasw>	 twkozlowski: why would UTC and GMT differ by an hour?
[14:15:12] <twkozlowski>	 oh. right.
[14:15:34] <twkozlowski>	 I thought BST rather than GMT
[14:15:43] <valhallasw>	 ah, right.
[14:29:17] <Nemo_bis>	 hurrrrrrraaaaaaaay Firefox beats the Evil Armored Ship of Chrome! https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56575
[14:29:52] <Nemo_bis>	 (for some convenient data aggregation method)
[14:31:41] <mutante>	 IE 6 0.00479%  YES
[14:38:37] <valhallasw>	 mutante: you can finally round it to 0.00%? :P
[14:38:51] <Nemo_bis>	 yes and it won't be a lie
[15:20:43] <lexein>	 I've been away about a month. In the meantime, did the fonts get changed in discussions, so that headings are now serif, while the discussion bodies are sans-serif?  Weird.
[15:22:32] <Nemo_bis>	 lexein: if you manage to make sense out of it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_refresh
[15:23:19] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: did something change in autocompletion that makes the suggestions shorter?
[15:23:49] <MatmaRex>	 shorter how?
[15:24:21] <lexein>	 Ugh. Self-inconsistent. To declare "Consistency" as a goal, and then to declare all headings "serif" and all body text "sans serif" is madness.
[15:24:39] <lexein>	 But thanks, Nemo_bis
[15:24:43] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: shorter as in long title truncated
[15:25:24] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: long titles were always truncated, althought the exact behavior has changed recently
[15:26:17] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: changed how?
[15:26:35] <Nemo_bis>	 I was following the performance problems discussions but I didn't spot anything related to this
[15:27:34] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: we had some awful code that attempted to insert an ellipsis in the middle of the title; now we just use text-overflow: ellipsis in CSS, which truncates the title at the end
[15:28:35] <Nemo_bis>	 https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Ricerca_e_autocompletamento
[15:29:34] <MatmaRex>	 brb
[15:38:28] <Nemo_bis>	 I added screenshots there
[15:46:19] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: huh, that's a bug, it's supposed to expand to up to 3x the normal width if necessary
[15:46:43] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: file a bug or remind me in the evening, i gotta go
[15:46:47] <Nemo_bis>	 oki
[15:51:38] <Nemo_bis>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64093
[15:55:31] <Nemo_bis>	 ROTFLOL manybubbles 
[15:55:46] <manybubbles>	 Nemo_bis: glad you enjoyed it
[16:21:01] <mpeel>	 Hi all. Is there a problem with the labs at the moment? I can't seems to load http://tools.wmflabs.org/commonshelper/ at the moment. :-/
[17:03:14] <Romaine>	 I have a problem that a file does not show... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Maastricht-Beeld_Nieuwenhofstraat-Sint_Pieterstraat.JPG
[17:30:03] <twkozlowski>	 guillom: :-((
[17:31:24] <Nemo_bis>	 is wikitech enotif broken? I don't receive any enotiftalk
[17:31:28] <twkozlowski>	 James_F|Away: Will you be adding VE items to Tech News tonight?
[18:09:45] <James_F>	 twkozlowski: Don't think there's much to add, but sure.
[18:15:19] <Nemo_bis>	 VE TEAM OFFICIALLY SLACKED
[18:21:18] <guillom>	 twkozlowski: Why the sad face?
[18:22:15] <twkozlowski>	 guillom: I'm sad you marked Tech News #17 for translation already
[18:22:28] <twkozlowski>	 Not sure I dare edit the existing items
[18:22:54] <guillom>	 twkozlowski: We haven't sent it to translators, so I thought you would dare :)
[18:23:26] <twkozlowski>	 guillom: Okay. Just researching stuff.
[18:23:34] <twkozlowski>	 You know there was an outage yesterday, right? :-)
[18:23:49] <guillom>	 twkozlowski: I didn't.
[18:24:17] <twkozlowski>	 FINALLY AN OUTAGE
[18:24:20] <twkozlowski>	 WE CAN WRITE ABOUT IT
[18:24:21] <twkozlowski>	 :-P
[18:24:37] <guillom>	 I would call that unhealthy excitement :P
[18:24:53] <Nemo_bis>	 isn't that what journalism is about
[18:25:04] * twkozlowski  mumbles something about it not having been logged

[18:25:29] * Nemo_bis  glares morebots 

[19:18:19] <twkozlowski>	 "Use new banana checker as a linter to avoid lacking qqq messages"
[19:18:30] <twkozlowski>	 Love some patch set titles <3
[19:19:16] <twkozlowski>	 Might feature some in a Shall of Hame
[22:00:28] <twkozlowski>	 James_F: errm.
[22:00:34] <twkozlowski>	 Why [[bugzilla:53477|<nowiki/>]] ?
[22:01:33] <James_F>	 twkozlowski: ?
[22:01:50] <twkozlowski>	 You added this to Tech News
[22:01:58] <James_F>	 Eurgh. How odd.
[22:02:06] * James_F  fixes and reports a bug with Parsoid. :-)

[22:02:10] <twkozlowski>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2014/17&diff=8207525&oldid=8206951
[22:03:19] <James_F>	 twkozlowski: {{fixed}}.
[22:03:36] <twkozlowski>	 Oh no.
[22:03:50] <gwicke>	 there is actually a difference between [[bugzilla:53477|<nowiki/>]] and [[bugzilla:53477|]]
[22:04:18] <James_F>	 Yes, but in this case it was meant to be an auto-numbered link, so converting to …<nowiki/> is definitely wrong. :-)
[22:04:22] <twkozlowski>	 Yes, the latter shows a link while the former is invisible
[22:04:59] <gwicke>	 ah, I see.. and VE set mw:ExtLink ?
[22:05:35] <James_F>	 Yeah.
[22:06:27] <gwicke>	 just tried with <a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33890"></a> at http://parsoid-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org/_html/
[22:06:36] <gwicke>	 am getting [bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33890]
[22:07:15] <James_F>	 gwicke: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64113
[22:07:30] <James_F>	 gwicke: For enwiki I got "[[:en:Foo|<nowiki/>]]".
[22:08:43] <twkozlowski>	 James_F: for the other bug...
[22:08:50] <James_F>	 twkozlowski: Which other bug?
[22:08:51] <twkozlowski>	 prompt means a suggestion?
[22:08:56] <twkozlowski>	 the category redirecting thing
[22:08:57] <James_F>	 twkozlowski: Yes.