[03:28:14] File pages probably aren't going anywhere. [03:28:26] I don't think there's anything wrong with the concept, just the implementation. [03:28:40] And most of the implementation problems aren't unique to File pages. [04:45:09] twkozlowski: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63987 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63988 may interest you. [06:12:29] uuuhuu https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16821 [06:13:38] Nemo_bis: I swear you are the most active metapedian I know, you are everywhere [06:15:09] he is the alpha and the omega [06:15:25] but not the beta [06:16:35] Nemo_bis: I hear the executive director vacancy is closing soon, be sure to send your application [06:18:17] Also there is the election for chapter selected board seats [06:18:48] :) [10:34:24] Anyone around for a question about non-SUL accounts created by importing from another wiki? [10:55:26] jem-: just ask :) [10:55:31] Ok :) [10:56:02] The question is: are those kind of accounts sul-able by the original user? [10:56:40] I mean, I read that accounts with same email and password will be auto-SULed, but those accounts... well, will have... no password? [10:56:49] hmm, does importing acticles create any user accounts? [10:56:58] It seems yes [10:57:06] https://tools.wmflabs.org/quentinv57-tools/tools/sulinfo.php?showinactivity=1&showblocks=1&showlocked=1&username=Canaan [10:57:13] it uses the original username, but i'm not sure if it creates any accounts [10:57:24] The enwiki Canaan account appears as created [10:57:27] (and you can have just the username without associated account) [10:57:37] Mmmm [10:58:01] hmm. [10:58:13] i don't see any logs about the account being created [10:58:26] Ahm [10:58:44] So, I should trust the logs and not the tool, then [10:58:48] hm, no [10:58:54] actually the account does exist [10:58:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&list=users&format=json&usprop=registration&ususers=Canaan [10:59:06] but there are no logs. D: [10:59:23] either it was created before this was logged (so like 2004 or so), or this is buggy [10:59:52] Ah [11:00:08] hmm, the user has an userid of 50351 [11:00:24] which is very low (the userids are sequential) [11:00:35] so this looks like an actual account someone created years ago [11:00:59] Good [11:01:49] So, probably es:Canaan will have to wait until the renaming of all non-global accounts [11:02:00] And probably those enwiki edits will get renamed then [11:02:09] yes [11:02:14] and yes [11:02:22] well, probably. import is wonky. :) [11:02:26] :) [11:02:47] I know, anyway I just wanted to give a proper answer in our village pump [11:03:09] Thanks, MatmaRex :) [11:03:25] happy to help [11:12:33] thank you, Nemo_bis [13:15:21] mark: paravoid - I understand that you can't come to the RfC meeting later, which is way too late for you, it sounds like? Yuri has improved https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Reducing_image_quality_for_mobile since you last commented, so maybe you can leave a comment before the mtg [13:16:44] http://fab.wmflabs.org/maniphest/task/create/?parent=46 [13:16:48] Should this be private? [13:16:58] guillom ^^ [13:40:40] can anybody help with wikibot? [13:44:05] anybody live here? :) [14:42:55] Uh, why does beta.wmflabs.org not have FlaggedRevs [16:11:05] On Commons I am getting a lot of "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." errors when using the UploadWizard. any issues knwon? [16:11:33] (I answered in -operations) [16:16:49] twkozlowski: It's not private, but an account is required to create tickets [16:27:19] twkozlowski: why should it be private? I don't see anything private in there. [16:33:02] most of the stuff I tried to look for on that domain was private [16:45:37] ARGH, the whitespace json change! It burns. [16:47:05] The goggles... they do *nothing*. [17:00:46] guillom: Riight. [17:22:30] I can't find the diff after rollback preference any longer O_o [17:24:33] ugh, "appearance" [17:50:31] Hi, all! [17:51:01] Are we going to get two-factor authentication anytime soon for sites like the wikipedias and commons? [17:51:41] We have it for Wikitech ;) [17:51:49] I know [17:51:56] hence my specific question [17:54:39] I hope not; imagine all the flood of requests from people losing their phone and similar stuff, we already have too many from wikitech users [17:55:18] says mister "read the key fingerprints!1!eleven" ;-) [17:55:51] MFA is what kept me sleeping well during the heartbleed mess [17:56:39] illusion of security is worse than lack of security [17:57:03] oh, I see, you are saying MFA is all bullshit? [17:57:08] nice [17:57:08] so I defend my right to call for checks of fingerprints and non-adoption of MFA at the same time [17:57:22] noo, I say this is: dschwen> says mister "read the key fingerprints!1!eleven" ;-) [17:57:43] wait, that wasn't you? [17:57:45] sorry then [17:57:55] I would love two-factor on wikis for privileged accounts, but it's a long way down the priority list at this point. [17:58:04] thx [17:58:11] it was me, but it's not in contradiction [17:58:58] checking fingerprints is fine (and necessary), so I don't quite get why you dismiss MFA [17:59:26] it is a considerable security improvement at little cost [17:59:41] unless you loose your phove, ich which case you are screwed anyhow [18:00:08] * Nemo_bis shrugs [18:00:30] you are essentialy saying our users are too stoopid to be given this option [18:00:31] And we provide scratch tokens in oath for just that. It's unfortunately a bit of work-- the AuthStack RFC would make it much more likely. [19:11:24] fwiw, ToolLabs web is down atm. Should be back up soon [19:12:49] proxy switch? [19:13:01] dschwen: yeah. some ssl issues being sorted out [19:39:38] dschwen: should be done [20:58:03] Discussing image quality reduction RfC in #wikimedia-mobile in a few minutes [20:58:11] paravoid: ^ in case you have a moment [20:59:25] Yuri is requesting: "1) an ok from ops to increase thumbnail storage by 2-3% and number of files by 15%, 2) from core/tim/etc to proceed with the proposed patch" - mark <---- in case you are available [21:00:23] um, I meant #wikimedia-office [21:29:23] hey sumanah, are you back from your sabbatical? [21:29:52] dschwen: I am! I got back in January. [21:30:26] I just realized I never replied to that "how's labs working out for you" email [21:30:47] I didn't have much to say back then