[16:40:40] <DarTar>	 https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/ gives a 502 Bad Gateway
[16:40:54] <Reedy>	 Yup
[16:41:00] <Reedy>	 Cache issues
[16:41:08] <Reedy>	 Ops are on it
[16:41:11] <DarTar>	 k
[18:00:07] <liangent>	 X-Vary-Options is not handled anymore and is exposed to users?
[20:17:52] <chrismcmahon>	 ^d:  did this this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114955/ just break editing in beta labs? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63911
[20:18:22] <^d>	 May have.
[20:18:32] <^d>	 It means MatmaRex was a liar and it was used ;-)
[20:19:25] <MatmaRex>	 what.
[20:19:33] <^d>	 delayedBind
[20:19:38] <^d>	 Removing it broke editing on beta.
[20:22:12] <^d>	 WikiEditor!
[20:22:51] <^d>	 Patch incoming.
[20:23:31] <MatmaRex>	 grrrarghsghrghrg.
[20:23:54] <^d>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/125867
[20:25:16] <^d>	 chrismcmahon: Fix incoming once Jenkins does its shiz :)
[20:26:02] <MatmaRex>	 stupid dependencies were set up wrong, eh
[20:26:25] <chrismcmahon>	 ^d MatmaRex thanks y'all 
[21:01:21] <Nemo_bis>	 hoo|away: I think this requires some mwgrep hacks (for the namespace), but if you ever feel like it... https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63581#c4
[21:06:49] <chrismcmahon>	 bd808: is this 58 minutes correct?  https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/496/console
[21:08:04] <bd808>	 chrismcmahon: It's correct in that it's what is happening all of a sudden. It's not correct in that I don't understand why it's rebuilding the l10n cache all of a sudden.
[21:08:39] <chrismcmahon>	 bd808:  OK, I think I have a change to the Flow code that was merged about 30 minutes ago causing a php fatal
[21:14:30] <bd808>	 chrismcmahon: I disabled my job for the now so it will stop fighting with main code update job for l10n updates
[21:16:37] <chrismcmahon>	 bd808:  wfm, thankjs
[21:16:40] <chrismcmahon>	 thanks, even
[21:16:44] <bd808>	 Something drastic happened to the build times for my job -- https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/buildTimeTrend
[21:17:07] <bd808>	 5m -> 8m -> 58m !?
[21:17:22] <chrismcmahon>	 bd808:  so often I think how nice it is to have beta labs in the shape that it is in
[21:21:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hey all. Is it a known issue that email through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser isn't working for some user?
[21:21:43] <Sven_Manguard>	 users*?
[21:22:51] <valhallasw>	 Sven_Manguard: specify 'isn't working'
[21:24:12] <Sven_Manguard>	 valhallasw: If people try to send me mail via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Sven_Manguard I don't get it. Multiple users have tried, and I'm not getting it from any of them. If you just send the email directly to my mail address using standard methods, however, I do get it.
[21:24:25] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hahc21 told me that another person was also having this problem
[21:24:43] <Sven_Manguard>	 I should note that a month ago, I definitely was able to receive emails via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Sven_Manguard 
[21:25:07] <valhallasw>	 Sven_Manguard: Strange. I would be inclined to search for an issue at your end, e.g. a spam filter.
[21:25:08] <Nemo_bis>	 How long ago was delivery waited for, and what email provider do you have?
[21:25:14] <Sven_Manguard>	 and I should also note that I reset my email address on Wikipedia a few minutes ago and I did get the confirmation email
[21:25:34] <Sven_Manguard>	 Nemo_bis: Some of the emails were sent several days ago, and one was sent earlier today
[21:25:36] <Reedy>	 Just tested it myself.. I had my email by the time I'd refreshed my email client page
[21:25:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 I use gmail 
[21:26:02] <Sven_Manguard>	 valhallasw: I just got your email
[21:26:15] <valhallasw>	 Hmm.
[21:26:31] <Sven_Manguard>	 But I still don't have the two cyberpower678 sent last week or the one Darkwarriorblade sent earlier today
[21:26:48] <valhallasw>	 Sven_Manguard: you've checked your spam folder, I presume?
[21:26:55] <Sven_Manguard>	 valhallasw: of course 
[21:27:05] <Sven_Manguard>	 It's not there. 
[21:27:06] <Nemo_bis>	 lol cyberpower678 has all sorts of mail issues :P
[21:27:16] <valhallasw>	 I'm not sure then.
[21:27:31] <Nemo_bis>	 considering yahoo just nuked mailing lists and c. uses yahoo, he might well be on gmail's blacklist
[21:28:29] <Nemo_bis>	 I'm not sure what weight the Reply-To header is given here
[21:29:10] <Sven_Manguard>	 Nemo_bis: With Cyberpower, I eventually emailed him using Special:EmailUser and he got it and replied (and I got the reply)
[21:29:40] <Nemo_bis>	 Sure; direct email is always easier than indirect :)
[21:29:45] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hahc21 said that he tried emailing user:Flyer22 and had this problem too 
[21:29:53] <Sven_Manguard>	 wait, no, other way
[21:30:02] <Sven_Manguard>	 Flyer22 tried emailing Hahc21 and didn't get anywhere
[21:30:02] <Nemo_bis>	 Currently the world email system is under attack by Yahoo
[21:30:13] <Sven_Manguard>	 Nemo_bis: well, I use gmail
[21:30:17] <Nemo_bis>	 It's hard to tell what's going on
[21:33:37] <Sven_Manguard>	 I know that Checkusers can see who sends mail to who
[21:33:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 can devs?
[21:34:11] <Sven_Manguard>	 Can I get a list of who has sent me mail via EmailUser in the past month so I can figure out what I've missed?
[21:42:20] <Krenair>	 Sven_Manguard, no, devs have no access to WMF's servers
[21:43:04] <Krenair>	 (except that subset of devs who happen to)
[21:47:03] <Sven_Manguard>	 I'm on another line with a CU
[21:50:51] <QuiteUnusual>	 Sorry, just catching up - I've had email problems too in the last couple of weeks but had forgotten about it until I read this. Going to test it.
[21:54:09] <QuiteUnusual>	 Ah, now I remember it was uk.wikimedia that wasn't (and still isn't) working, and that's not hosted by the WMF so presumably is a different problem to Sven's
[21:57:07] <Sven_Manguard>	 Krenair: which certain devs can see that information?
[21:59:32] <hoo>	 Nemo_bis: Don't think that's possible :/
[22:00:46] <Krenair>	 Sven_Manguard, the ones who have server access :|
[23:26:55] <Gloria>	 I think most devs have server access. Probably different servers, though.
[23:27:14] <Gloria>	 Sven_Manguard: If you suspect that EmailUser isn't working, you should file a bug.