[02:27:56] circeberman: problems? [04:11:25] Can anyone please figure what is the possible error while closing an AfD ? [04:11:27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Milorganite [04:11:57] {{subst:afd top}} {{subst:afd bottom}} on top and bottom of the page, doesn't cover all discussion. [04:12:46] thre's some html error in the signature? [[User:7&6=thirteen|7&6=thirteen]] ([[User talk:7&6=thirteen|☎]]) [04:12:51] Probably an unclosed tag somewhere. [04:14:14] Aw! {{reflist}} thing was the error! [04:14:45] Should I remove this while closing this afd? [04:15:07] Would not it be considered an attempt to modify others' comment? [11:11:48] for when he's back: hashar, can you add me to https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/wikimedia/list_managers please? I need to add some currently-scattered projects :) [11:18:04] hashar, can you add me to https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/wikimedia/list_managers please? I need to add some currently-scattered projects :) [11:18:32] Nemo_bis: I have lost my access to ohloh.net and can't retrieve it, for some reason I never receive the password reset emails [11:18:33] :( [11:22:28] ouch [11:25:12] hashar: why am I still unable to do "recheck" even though I'm whitelisted? [11:35:58] siebrand: can you help me instead? :) so I can stop bothering you with edit requests [11:50:53] Nemo_bis: 'recheck' is available to anyone. It only retrigger lint tests though [13:59:05] hashar: I occasionally use the Gerrit API for stats collection (not from toollabs). Just FTR, what kind of rate gets you blacklisted? [14:00:18] Jarry1250: any rate killing the box :-] [14:00:42] Jarry1250: make sure to send a user-agent that help us identify you [14:00:56] hashar: yes, I'll remember to do that next time [14:00:58] hashar: What kind of rate does that? 1/sec? 10/sec? [14:01:10] Or is this 90 concurrent connections? [14:01:43] no cllue [14:01:58] if that kill the box, you will probably get banned temporarly [14:02:21] I am not aware of any recommended rate [14:02:27] gerrit seems to go down for short periods all the time even without anyone hammering it… :( [14:12:04] MatmaRex: It seems unloved. [14:12:07] Gerrit, I mean. [14:12:27] I don't know why anyone thinks setting up another other repo manager will be better. [14:12:36] Maintenance is still needed. But shrug. [14:12:43] Gloria: i think it seems unloved the way herpes seem unloved, y'know. [14:13:19] Or perhaps closer to a Soviet tank. [14:13:35] Powerful and capable (and perhaps a bit dangerous), but long neglected. [14:14:34] I fully agree with that Gloria [14:15:27] I think that one of the arguments for phabricator is that maintaining it will be easier as it's PHP instead of Java/weird frameworks/Prolog [14:15:36] Sure. [14:15:49] but I agree that we need someone that is their job to take care of it [14:16:08] I just think it's a bit unfair that Gerrit's reputation will take more and more of a hit as it encounters performance problems or whatever, when the real solution is someone looking at the underlying cause(s) and addressing them. [14:16:18] It's _a lot_ of repos and changes. [14:16:38] I don't think Gerrit's performance is one of the reasons that people are looking into alternatives [14:17:21] I've been seeing increased chatter about its slowness, though I don't use it nearly as often as others. [14:17:21] devs acting funny https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63327 [14:18:34] Well, one requirements I'd consider for the repos browser is whether it can sustain search engines crawlers [14:19:24] I don't really care what's chosen as long as it has an IRC feed. [14:19:45] lol [14:19:55] is it among the requirements on wiki? [14:20:40] Use a real-time notifications feed, preferably IRC [192] Get and send information about commits and tickets automatically on IRC [200] [201] [14:21:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Project_management_tools/Review#MZMcBride :-) [14:21:22] those are not the requirements [14:21:40] And you're not cited in the requirements :P [14:22:01] Nemo_bis: Gloria is MZMcBride :p [14:22:07] Nemo knows. ;-) [14:22:29] Anyway, I'm not too worried. [14:22:37] An IRC feed isn't usually very difficult. [14:22:52] I know you're not; I was pointing out how lazy you are [14:23:30] Feature or bug? [14:23:49] mine is slightly longer https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Project_management_tools/Review#Antoine_.22hashar.22_Musso_.28talk.29 [14:24:19] Gloria: bug; the lazier you are, the more annoying (inefficient) your whining [14:24:37] Gloria: can you help the kid on design@ ? "Thanks for all of your recommendation! I will try hard! But... I don't know how to fix bugs, I only know that fixing the bugs are somehow related to patches on wikimedia gerrit. =.=" [14:24:59] Probably not easily helped. [14:25:15] Or I wouldn't ask [14:25:19] Heh. [14:25:53] Not sure what help I can provide other than shouting "run!" [14:26:10] Ok [14:26:27] Jared provided a nice list, didn't he? [14:26:35] Sometimes you're patient enough writing long emails full of obvious directions paraphrasing wiki docs [14:26:43] Maybe [14:27:14] Invested energy has to be weighed against potential return on investment, or something. [14:27:19] * Nemo_bis is busy eating three different kinds of cookies in coffee with some milk (a middle way between cappuccione and caffellate I suppose) [14:27:38] If someone is already doing development and just needs a bit of technical guidance, it's easy to invest a bit of energy. [14:27:57] If someone hasn't even gotten started, it's a much larger investment, with completely unknown return. [14:29:40] * cappuccino and caffel(l)atte, silly cookie-typos [17:47:26] https://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=8039393&oldid=8039256 [19:04:09] MaxSem: Around? I noticed your post about the coordinates [19:06:25] multichill, hey [19:06:25] whoah!!!!! http://infodisiac.com/blog/2014/04/full-archive-dumps-are-being-processed-again-first-since-2010/ [19:07:55] MaxSem: Eh, found out why so many sec items don't have a name [19:08:09] https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:Coor&action=edit [19:08:19] {{#invoke:AddNearby|coordinates|{{{1|}}}_name:{{PAGENAME}}_secondary:1}} [19:10:09] what's that "secondary:1" thingie? [19:11:05] I dunno, I think that should be primary:0 right? [19:11:37] nope [19:11:55] {{#coordinates:primary|lat|lon}} is primary [19:12:09] {{#coordinates:lat|lon}} is secondary [19:13:16] check [19:15:34] Haha, now it's getting populated :-D [19:16:21] multichill, note that name equal to page name is useless because we already know what page it is [19:16:44] I know, next step is to actually start using "name" [19:17:13] also it can break those geohack parameters, better do {{#coordinates:lat|lon|name=...}} [19:19:50] Oh, what a mess this is [19:21:31] MaxSem: Anyway, don't filter, just have people clean up :-) [19:22:07] multichill, if I filter they might actually fix them!:P [19:22:34] You should probably first make some reports [19:22:40] The nlwp was pretty obvious [19:23:01] Number of items without name == number of items where primary=0 [19:45:46] Hello [19:45:53] anybody would let me know [19:46:03] why TWINKLE suddenly stops working! [19:46:12] it doesn't show up anymore// [19:46:49] Something wrong I did today on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anupmehra/modern.js [19:46:53] ? [19:47:03] Wake up! [19:47:59] Sleep deep. Ive fixed it myself in the meanwhile. [19:49:59] gj [19:51:38] nice, for some reason https://toolserver.org/~vvv/yaec.php feels faster [19:52:26] Really, idlers, you should be ashamed for not helping Anup fix their problem in 60 seconds instead of 90 [21:40:15] Hi, I've installed the new default sans font (Arimo) in my Windows XP and the bottom part of the letters doesn't show up, is it a known problem? [21:54:47] thedj: do you know? [21:55:32] jem-: fonts rarely work in Windows.. [21:56:33] And we’re not talking about font rendering yet. :O [21:57:23] wow, it's really ugly :) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:New_typography_Vector_WinXP_%28free_fonts%29.png [21:57:43] jem-: is yours even worse than the expected effect shown by the screenshot above? :O [22:48:42] Nemo_bis: i've long since given up on Windows [22:48:45] especially XP [22:50:39] Considering it's properly EOL in about a week [22:51:47] Windows 8 is nearly 2 years old already [22:55:09] ...but sucks like new! [22:55:25] 8.1 isn't so bad.. [22:55:37] 8.1 Update is due to fix the start bar [22:55:53] especially after you apply third-party classic look tools to it [22:57:15] anyways, i told folks that messing with the fonts is jsut asking for trouble [22:57:25] 7 is 4 years old [22:57:28] and it seems its still true. [22:57:54] the web just isn't ready for messing with fonts. needs like 6 more years. [23:04:26] <^d> lol fonts. [23:14:39] Twinkle not working! [23:14:57] It appears and disappears for no reason. [23:15:16] anyone?