[04:37:12] <sDrewth>	 when someone turns off their TOR exit node, what time period would need to expire before mediawiki stopped blocking the IP?
[05:26:08] <Betacommand>	 sDrewth: depends on how long the TOR project takes to update their system. I would say a day or two
[05:30:47] <sDrewth>	 okay Betacommand, thx, I guessed at a day, but being TOR ignorant, wasn't sure how many dots needed to connect
[05:31:25] <Jasper_Deng>	 sDrewth: dots?
[05:32:16] <sDrewth>	 dot to dots
[05:32:39] <sDrewth>	 1 2 3 4 5 before you get a picture
[09:52:58] <Nemo_bis>	 How does one easily write in Special:MyPage/common.css "Ignore all that's written in MediaWiki:Common.css"? https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[09:53:46] <odder>	 !important ?
[09:54:57] <Nemo_bis>	 and?
[09:56:58] <Nemo_bis>	 I begin to suspect the only solution is not visiting that wiki at all
[09:59:01] <odder>	 Nemo_bis: What do you want to do?
[09:59:24] <odder>	 You can overwrite Common.css with your own stylesheet, it has a higher importance
[10:00:35] <odder>	 It's skin files < on-wiki stylesheets < per-user stylesheets, afaik
[10:17:02] <Nemo_bis>	 I want to say to ignore everything defined in Common.css
[10:17:23] <Nemo_bis>	 the p style only if that's impossible
[10:21:36] <odder>	 You'll have to overwrite each and every definition from that stylesheet with !important
[10:21:54] <Nemo_bis>	 hmpf
[10:25:07] <Nemo_bis>	 found a solution: cologne blue is less disrupted by their config
[10:29:38] <odder>	 lol
[10:45:50] <gry>	 Nemo_bis: you could write your own skin, that'd be really helpful to many. The list is getting shorter and shorter, with only 2 skins staying in core these days, and not many maintained properly.
[11:00:48] <Nemo_bis>	 gry: I'm too lazy to overwrite one p statement, do you really think I'd write a skin?
[11:01:14] <Nemo_bis>	 I'm fine with monobook anyway; I just hope WMF doesn't ruin that one too
[11:07:36] <Nemo_bis>	 Win 95/98/ME style is still better than anything from XP onwards, too; I don't see why monobook wouldn't serve us well for 20 more years
[11:11:53] <gry>	 Nemo_bis: you're too optimistic. They can plan to only maintain (a) mobile-friendly skin(s) in long term, so the mobile folks just start working on them(it) instead of repeating a lot of interface work, I suspect.
[11:13:01] <Nemo_bis>	 So?
[14:51:23] <TBloemink>	 Request: GET http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Fotografie_van_A_tot_Z, from 91.198.174.62 via amssq48 amssq48 ([91.198.174.58]:3128), Varnish XID 2745682738
[14:51:23] <TBloemink>	 Forwarded for: 212.123.157.236, 91.198.174.62
[14:51:23] <TBloemink>	 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:51:00 GMT 
[14:52:18] <TBloemink>	 oh working again
[18:10:17] <StevenW>	 aude: re: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/122442/1
[18:10:25] <StevenW>	 So this just applies to Special pages?
[18:10:31] <aude>	 afaik
[18:10:38] <StevenW>	 ok
[18:10:40] <StevenW>	 will test
[18:10:57] <aude>	 the table element there decreases the margin as well as h2
[18:11:12] <aude>	 let me update the commit message
[18:11:57] <StevenW>	 What Special pages have an h2, if you recall?
[18:12:42] <StevenW>	 Ah I see what you mean. Like on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages
[18:12:45] <aude>	 yeah
[18:12:47] <aude>	 probably others
[18:16:44] <aude>	 back in hour or so
[18:17:53] <StevenW>	 k
[18:50:32] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; PiRSquared17; /* deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org not loading */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8017171&oldid=7914871&rcid=5141348
[18:53:12] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; 212.123.157.236; /* deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org not loading */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8017205&oldid=8017171&rcid=5141353
[18:53:41] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; TBloemink; /* deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org not loading */ this was me; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8017210&oldid=8017205&rcid=5141354
[19:10:24] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Se4598; /* deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org not loading */ re; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=8017403&oldid=8017210&rcid=5141432
[22:55:34] <Adrian1885>	 I have a question regarding capitalization of links in the article body. Afaik links can be all lowercase, despite articles having to start uppercase. How are non-ASCII letters handled in this regard? What happens to an 'ä' or 'á' for instance?
[22:56:24] <thedj>	 Adrian1885: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=%3F&namespace=0
[22:57:59] <thedj>	 Adrian1885: also it depends on the wiki. For instance wiktionary does not first char capitalization. 
[23:00:14] <Adrian1885>	 Ah I see. I'm interested in Wikipedia.org only. So any letter that is not a-z/A-Z would be prefixed with a '?', correct?
[23:00:34] <thedj>	 no
[23:00:51] <thedj>	 it will be presented as it is, unless it is forbidden
[23:00:59] <thedj>	 only very few characters are forbidden
[23:01:40] <thedj>	 just put anything you want in that Special:PrefixIndex page field and you will likely find something starting with that letter.
[23:02:44] <thedj>	 most unicde  emoticons are page titles for instance, redirecting to the article about the emoticon unicode character subset
[23:02:44] <Adrian1885>	 Sorry I misunderstood, I had assumed you showed me the ? page to demonstrate what happens to 'ä', now I get what you mean.
[23:05:19] <Newyorkadam>	 Adrian1885: ‘ä’ has an article
[23:05:23] <Newyorkadam>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%84
[23:09:08] <Adrian1885>	 Is there a certain library that wikimedia uses to auto-capitalize lowercase links? ICU?
[23:13:17] <brion>	 Adrian1885: I think just mb_strtoupper
[23:13:25] <brion>	 which i assume uses the standard unicode case mappings
[23:13:43] <brion>	 we might have some old case mappings sitting around too for compat, i don’t recall
[23:13:46] <Adrian1885>	 thanks brion, i'll look into it!