[00:22:40] csteipp, we sorted the issue. Thx to hexmode. Uploading, 13%. I will send the announcement soon. [01:06:15] Cool. YEah, email me too, I'm running in and out for the next hour. [01:08:56] csteipp, just sent the announcement [01:32:07] mglaser or csteipp or someone: can https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62497 be moved out of the Security product now? [01:33:47] Gloria, I assume so [01:34:11] Can you do it? I'm not CC'd on the bug. [01:34:16] Gloria, I just released new MW versions that address the bug [01:34:23] Yes, I saw your e-mail. [01:34:29] I can't read the bug report you mentioned. ;-) [01:34:31] Gloria, how do I do that? [01:34:49] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62497 <-- Product drop-down menu. [01:34:58] Change "Security" to "MediaWiki" and click "Save". [01:35:04] It'll prompt you to set a component. [01:35:18] Assuming the issue is in MediaWiki core. Otherwise, select "MediaWiki extensions" or whatever. [01:36:17] Gloria, thanks! [01:36:36] No problem. [01:39:37] Release is out, I'm done for the day. CU! [01:40:39] Bye. Thanks for all the work. :-) [02:05:13] Is there some technical error? [02:05:30] Unable to access english wikipedia// [02:05:34] Error: Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes. [02:05:48] http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B1%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B1%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BE, from 10.128.0.110 via cp1054 cp1054 ([10.64.32.106]:3128), Varnish XID 1048317379 [02:05:49] Forwarded for: 152.179.75.202, 10.128.0.117, 10.128.0.117, 10.128.0.110 [02:05:49] Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:05:23 GMT [05:42:04] I have a question [05:42:18] is it possible to rotate PDF files on mediawiki [05:42:27] I believe the viewer is handled by an extension [05:43:00] And the pdf I posted is using landscape pages (it is actually a power point presentation) [15:56:16] can I change my IP range? [15:56:24] it's for wikimedia's reasons [15:56:53] slooow gerrit again [15:56:58] CriCriWiki: sure, ask your ISP [15:57:13] or if you're innocent and wrongly criminalised blablabla ask #wikimedia-stewards [15:57:18] exist other form? [15:57:31] hmm, maybe burning your PC [15:57:38] I'm banned wikimedia-stewards [15:58:53] the problem it's in eswikip many ranges are blocked Nemo_bis, for unfair reasons [15:59:03] Sure [15:59:15] No worries, I'm told the UNO general assembly gladly accept appeals for such cases [15:59:36] what proxies aren't blocked in eswikip [15:59:38] ? [16:16:28] CriCriWiki: Closed proxies, maybe. [16:39:03] well then [17:01:58] The IRC discussion about the Project management tools review ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_management_tools/Review ) is about to start in #wikimedia-office . Please join if you'd like to know more and share your thoughts. [17:09:59] Hi. [17:10:28] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/The99logo.svg/250px-The99logo.svg.png [17:10:32] vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/The99logo.svg/230px-The99logo.svg.png [17:12:41] Why the large difference in rendering? Even at 300px it looks weird. [18:29:02] James_F|Away: Will you be adding any VE items to Tech News this week? [18:29:24] James_F|Away: I'd like to send an early version to translators-l around 20:00 UTC at the latest [18:40:53] twkozlowski: Sorry, yes, didn't save my change yesterday. Will do now. [18:54:52] Thanks much [18:56:45] twkozlowski: is the Tech news finished? [19:02:16] How do you mean? [19:02:17] == Namespace-specific == dos not work atm, schold we use == Namespace-specific ==? [19:02:27] siebrand^^ [19:03:00] Kugelsplitter: Where is the place where that doesn't work? Let me have a go... [19:03:20] Kugelsplitter: why not [newline]==Namespace-specific==[newline] ? [19:03:50] Sometimes you have to play a bit with newlines to make it do exactly what you want. [19:04:28] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Bots&action=edit§ion=3 [19:04:30] for example [19:04:38] Cannot find section on all pages :( [19:05:41] Kugelsplitter: That's a different issue from what you reported. [19:06:05] Kugelsplitter: What's your problem exactly? That's tags appear to interfear with section editing? [19:06:07] siebrand: when i mark a new page wit, == Namespace-specific == the same thing happens. [19:06:23] What is "the same thing"? [19:06:32] the [edit section] is broken [19:06:51] "Cannot find section" [19:07:13] There's a bug for that. [19:07:40] ok :) wo it will be fixes? if yes i go ahead with marking pages like this [19:07:45] It's not such a huge issue, I think. If PiRSquared says there's a bug, you should probably subscribe to that. [19:07:57] k, thx siebrand! [19:08:14] let me find it [19:08:51] Kugelsplitter, siebrand: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58946 [19:08:57] thanks [19:11:29] hi [19:11:43] Since nobody replied about librsvg I think I'll ask in irc.gnome.org ... [19:12:57] PiRSquared: it was just discussed on #-operations, not sure if you noticed [19:13:11] Oh [20:23:26] hi! [20:24:14] what is the best strategy to download all revisions of a given article? it seems using Special:Export is the best bet, since it limits number of articles to 1000, but OTOH API limits it at 500. (this is on en.wiki, AFAICT) [20:24:52] BTW - why is there a limit set to 500 in API, but it is 1000 in Special:Export? [20:25:10] is it 500 for bots as well? [20:25:27] it doesn't make sense. I'd prefer using API, since it offers also JSON as a output format. [20:25:38] Base: I don't know. probably it is bigger. [20:27:58] I am writing a tool similar to wikiblame (http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=en) but optimized for linear search. [20:28:26] it will be caching downloaded revisions, to make consecutive searches faster. [20:28:43] a nice side effect is that removed revisions will be still present :-)) [20:29:07] I bet wikipedia admins will love this feature ;) [20:29:16] BartlomiejB: Presumably the API has a _continue link? [20:29:51] James_F: yes, it is possible to continue downloading in both cases (Special:Export and via API). [20:30:08] but I'd prefer to download in one chunk (request) as much as possible. [20:30:12] BartlomiejB: So… conjoin the JSON? [20:30:26] BartlomiejB: But we'd prefer for the servers to not fall over, hence the API limits. :-) [20:31:09] James_F: but I (or anyone else) can do exactly the same thing (even worse, since it offers only XML, AFAIK) with 1000 limit via Special:Export. [20:31:56] BartlomiejB: Sure, we should probably fix the irregularity. [20:34:17] by raising limit in API for 1000, right? :) [20:35:06] here are some of my notes, BTW: https://bitbucket.org/bartlomiejb/wikiblamebb/src/tip/temp-notes.txt (they're in Polish, though :/) [20:36:32] s/for/to/ [20:40:42] PiRSquared: You asked if Tech News was finished? [20:41:26] twkozlowski: yea [20:42:27] Care to elaborate? [20:43:23] OK, I guess I will stick to api.php and its 500 limit... it would be a PITA to process big XML files anyway... [20:47:41] PiRSquared: I am working on it right now, anything in particular that you need? [20:54:32] twkozlowski: This makes me sad https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2014/14&diff=7989000&oldid=7988547 [20:54:58] Why? [20:55:03] twkozlowski: In particular, losing the point that this is the first ever Beta Feature to be "promoted" is very bad for user expectations. [20:55:26] James_F: Did you read Tech News #13? [20:55:27] twkozlowski: You've completely removed the ability for people to find out about Beta Features regarding a major change that lots of them will look at. :-) [20:56:23] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features [20:56:28] not very informative, is it. [20:57:18] James_F: The reason I changed that is that we already wrote about TR last week [20:57:35] We will only be repeating the notice this week to make sure people are ready & not surprised [21:00:51] PiRSquared: So I'm done with Tech News for now; anything you need? [21:01:14] thanks [21:01:36] does that mean 'no, I don't need anything?' [21:01:45] yes [21:05:28] twkozlowski: quiet week next week other than typo-refresh [21:06:49] Appears so... [21:09:41] I'm just reporting the news, so I can hardly influence them :-P [21:20:31] twkozlowski: there is an update to code editor that includes syntax checking. might be worth to note if it's a boring week [21:29:46] twkozlowski: though, one interesting note, the SWAT deploy things seemed to work (lots of small progress happened in them) [22:17:36] greg-g: the SWAT deploy? [22:17:59] thedj: is code editor deployed on Wikimedia wikis? [22:18:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CodeEditor tells me it is [22:19:26] oooo! [22:19:35] that's the editor used for CSS n' stuff [22:19:46] thedj: yes please, then! [22:20:01] thedj: is there a Bugzilla bug & Gerrit patch (or patches) for it? [22:20:04] or an e-mail? [22:44:31] twkozlowski: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118979/ [22:44:58] twkozlowski: for some reason it seems that one isn't in the changelogs [22:48:14] +53990, -36495 [22:48:22] Now that's a wee change, innit. [22:48:43] thedj: bookmarked, will add tomorrow [22:48:55] pull of upstream [22:48:59] anything else that it does except introducing syntax checking? [22:49:21] or maybe I can read about it somewhere? [22:49:30] fix that bug that is mentioned. other than that not too much, but i'm working on a few things [22:50:24] and have an email inviting feedback: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/444398 [22:50:40] thedj: then please do feel free to boldly edit next issues of Tech News if you come up with changes that might seem important to Wikimedia users [22:50:49] and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#CodeEditor_Feedback_desired [22:51:58] Will read on it, thanks [23:12:49] For all of you nagging me about it [23:12:51] http://orgchart.wmflabs.org/#5085aa408fedf26b68000001/ [23:12:54] Quit your whining [23:16:24] marktraceur: hm. [23:16:36] marktraceur: Why are you using SF and, say, GR? [23:17:28] marktraceur: also, you are using different two-letter abbreviations for Mexico for different employees/contractors [23:17:53] Ingrid Flores = MX, Andrew Green = ME [23:17:56] twkozlowski: I think they're generated automatically based on what's dumped into the location field [23:18:03] Oh, no [23:18:06] They're set specifically [23:18:12] So it's not my fault, it's alantz's. :P [23:18:40] Fixed AndyRussG's to be MX [23:18:53] Also you are using CA for Canada [23:18:56] Heh [23:18:56] and then for ? [23:18:58] California? [23:19:08] Sahar Massahi (CA) [23:19:12] twkozlowski: Happily all of our people in California are in SF [23:19:14] but it's marked with US [23:19:31] see Sahar, then, marktraceur [23:19:42] Fixing. [23:20:18] 'kay, done [23:22:49] marktraceur: is the graph supposed to use different colors for different countries? [23:22:53] the squares, I mean [23:22:59] Yeah [23:23:07] Well, differenc location codes. [23:23:29] You are using the exact same shades for Italy, Hungary and Greece [23:23:41] while other European countries get different colors [23:24:03] Oh [23:24:18] twkozlowski: The highest-rated ones get different colours; ones with lower numbers get the same grey [23:24:18] ... and Belgium has the same as Greece & rest [23:24:25] Er browvn? [23:24:36] #886644 [23:24:38] I forget what the list is. [23:24:54] Nitpicks. What about the title and role changes that it doesn't show. :) [23:25:18] so why does the Netherlands get its own color? [23:25:28] it has roughly the same number of employees as, say, Greece [23:25:35] as far as I can see without doing much math [23:26:38] NL has 4, Greece has 3 [23:26:45] CA has 7 [23:27:05] AU has 3 too, but I guess got lucky [23:27:16] also Argentina uses the same shade of brown as Europe [23:27:29] but meh, nitpicks as bd808 says [23:28:36] oh, I see it's not updated yet [23:28:43] No, it's imperfect. [23:30:29] I continue to blame the HR person who's not in the channel. [23:30:31] :)