[05:23:13] Nemo_bis: Pair programming works when both parties have +2. [06:01:40] Gloria: I took the liberty to call it "peer" for that reason ;) [06:05:46] Hah. [06:05:52] I like that. [08:09:38] uhm [08:09:49] are people aware the entire tool server is down [08:09:59] is that considered urgent? [08:10:08] Gloria [08:10:18] yes [08:10:36] yes to which question [08:12:05] the first [08:12:44] It's been down for a while, I think. [08:22:57] Most of the day apparently [08:23:06] nosy is aware and working on it [08:23:14] (for those that read toolserver-l) [08:24:52] p858snake|l: who's nosy? [08:25:06] one of the paid ts admins? [08:25:22] * Jasper_Deng had never heard of him [08:25:39] She will be disappointed to hear that [08:25:50] (if i'm thinking of the right one) [09:20:48] Jasper_Deng: wmde has a paid contactor i think? [09:21:23] it definitely does [15:34:16] James_F|Away: out of curiosity, since when does 'interwiki' mean meta:Foo and not en:Foo? [15:40:14] they're all interwiki? [15:40:24] because they link to different wiki? [15:41:42] I am asking a question too? [15:41:43] twkozlowski: since always, the proper name for cross-language sidebar interwiki is "language links" (e.g. the API calls them that), but no one cares :) [15:42:23] MatmaRex: Since when does the API call them 'language links'? [15:42:36] since it was created afaik [15:42:37] I've always heard interwiki links being referred to as, well, interwiki [15:42:42] the query module from them is called 'langlinks' [15:42:45] /between/ + wiki [15:43:13] there is also a https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Langlinks_table [15:43:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query#Page_types also distinguishes "iwlinks" and "langlinks" [15:43:54] but, as i said, no one cares usually [15:44:21] or rather, everyone calls language links "interwiki links", so us purists have to adjust to be understood [15:44:56] also there's Wikidata where this doesn't even matter anymore [16:26:00] and don't call Wikipedia "wiki" :) [16:26:47] but imo it's ok to call langlinks interwiki links. it's instance of them [16:26:58] each langlink is interwiki link [16:27:02] but no vice versa [19:27:16] Who is the editor of initialisesettings.php? [19:31:46] Your administrator is nobody. [19:34:35] Kolega2357: What exactly do you want done? [19:40:46] MatmaRex: Dyskusja na IRC z zespołem Language Engineering Wikimedia Foundation planowana jest na 12 marca o godz. 18:00 czasu polskiego na kanale #wikimedia-office w sieci Freenode (przelicznik stref czasowych). [15] [19:41:07] twkozlowski: hm? [19:41:08] Language Engineering? nie wiem, czy nie powinno być przetłumaczone [19:41:19] nie, raczej nie moim zdaniem [19:41:42] te nazwy zespolow dzialaja chyba jako nazwy wlasne [19:41:43] w sumie nie mogłem znaleźć odpowiedniego tłumaczenia nawet; "inżynieria językowa" to nie to samo :-) [19:53:21] twkozlowski one question. Does showing rollback edit in RC without flood flag? [19:54:28] I'm not exactly sure what you mean [19:55:39] twkozlowski when I am have flood flag on sh wikipedia reverting edits show in RC [19:56:21] Kolega2357: You have to add bot=1 to the rollback url [19:56:24] * URLs [19:57:04] I am trying but not work I am not have mark bot edits rigth [19:59:04] hoo are you have markbotedits rights as a Steward? [19:59:18] Probably [20:00:24] Can you try markbotedit revert on sh wikipedia? [20:09:47] twkozlowskican add right markeditbot to rollbacker user group for sh wikipedia? [21:23:00] yo [21:25:38] Kolega2357: please fill a bug in Bugzilla under Wikimedia => Site requests [21:25:48] hi domas, long time no see :-) [21:25:55] I was always around! [21:26:57] Ha! Planning to go to any of the Wikimedia events this year? [21:27:04] *shrug* [21:27:10] not going to London, I guess [21:27:26] Zurich? [21:28:02] I might be in San Francisco somewhere in May [21:28:15] multichill will be in San Francisco? [21:28:42] For work [21:29:44] ping me [21:29:48] let's go have dinner or something [21:29:56] hi multichill and domas [21:30:07] there's something in Zurich? [21:30:11] long time no see [21:30:15] hackaton [21:30:24] multichill: I'm working for american capitalists now, get only 4 weeks of vacation [21:30:31] Will do! Yeah, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCrich_Hackathon_2014 [21:30:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCrich_Hackathon_2014 [21:30:56] I'm happy to spend my vacations not working nowadays! [21:31:03] * multichill just did for weeks of traveling in Asia/Australia and still has some weeks left [21:31:04] speaking of wikimedia, I have one feature I'd like to try to build [21:31:09] for interwiki [21:31:44] *four [21:31:59] Interwiki? The interlanguage ones or the prefixes? [21:32:22] twkozlowski tps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52273 [21:32:27] well, I just want "in other languages" also always have titles in other languages [21:32:31] sorry https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52273 [21:32:45] usually when I use that feature, I use it for purpose of dictionary [21:33:07] That should be easy with Wikidata! [21:33:27] that would be easy with anything [21:33:33] just show frickin title that the link is pointing to [21:33:47] * multichill would like to have that as a user option [21:33:56] I'd like to have that in the mobile app [21:34:11] s/app/web/ [21:34:22] user options suck [21:34:32] Wikidata does have a problem w/ numerical page titles (in the normal MediaWiki sense of the word "title") [21:34:34] wait, what does the link say now? [21:34:35] I have shitton of unused screen estate [21:34:43] twkozlowski: it just says what language it is in [21:34:44] hehe [21:34:45] domas: when you hover on the other lang you don't get that? [21:34:55] matanya: how does one hover on mobile web? [21:34:58] How do you hover on mobile? [21:35:01] should I carefully stare? [21:35:05] LASER FOCUS [21:35:13] SIRI SHOW ME HOVER [21:35:25] with you fine finger? [21:35:28] domas: Did you notice on Wikidata how the babel template on your user page effects what languages you see? [21:35:29] *your [21:35:41] did I ever care about wikidata?! [21:36:07] It's quite nice to only get the stuff you can read in general [21:36:25] yep [21:36:25] domas: it says $articletitle - $language on desktop, haven't tried mobile recently [21:36:34] but thats hover [21:36:41] No point of showing me Chinese [21:36:45] aaah, right [21:36:54] multichill: see! ULS will sort that out for you [21:36:58] also, I'd love not to have the hover [21:37:09] also, I'd love customization that would show "in other languages" right there for all the users [21:37:12] not based on their babel templates [21:37:21] but on something more understandable [21:37:27] and maybe even user-side-cookie-driven [21:37:38] "you clicked on NL link, maybe that should be hilighted!" [21:37:49] You will soon be able to use a Beta option to show a shorter list of language links. That way, Universal Language Selector will only show languages that are relevant to you. You will still be able to search for other languages. [11] [21:38:02] Figuring out one language for a user can be a challenge, figuring out multiple is even harder I guess.... [21:38:26] that's https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2014/11 BTW [21:38:44] And no, I don't want to see Frisian, Zeelands and other so called languages :P [21:39:09] ignorant Hollander [21:39:14] :-D [21:39:42] yay [21:39:46] now give me titles in mobile view [22:21:43] twkozlowski https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56169 Can you solve this bug? [22:24:07] hoo [22:25:39] Kolega2357: Please try to answer Comment 8 completely [22:25:53] Where? [22:26:11] Kolega2357: On Bugzilla [22:26:42] It is OK [22:29:58] 21<hoo>21 replayed [22:33:24] Kolega2357: What about "Its unclear why these namespaces should not apply to non-wikimedia sh projects. If they are just Cyrillic versions of latin namespace names, then they would be useful everywhere. This should be clarified." [22:36:16] Hoo do not need to change the names of namespaces from Latin to Cyrillic alphabet. Cyrillic namespaces is uses or searching namespaceses [22:37:46] sorry namespacesAliases is uses or searching namespaceses [22:40:06] Kolega2357: Sorry, but the question was whether these should rather be built into MediaWiki as they're (partly) not Wikipedia specific. [22:41:43] Kolega2357: Sorry, but the question was whether these should rather be built into MediaWiki as they're (partly) not Wikipedia specific. Yes built into MediaWiki [22:42:23] Kolega2357: But which? What of that is Wikipedia or Wikimedia specific and what can be built into MediaWiki? [22:44:29] hoo i am sent you pm [22:45:33] Kolega2357: Many of these are Wikipedia specific, these shouldn't be built into MediaWiki, but rather changed in Wikimedia's configuration [22:46:20] 21<hoo>21 but rather changed in Wikimedia's configuration. Yes [22:47:29] Sorry, but I don't think you get what I'm trying to say [23:02:22] vedo rosso