[01:18:28] <ankry>	 Hi
[01:19:15] <ankry>	 How a user can have 498 edits on Active users list while he has only 60 total?
[01:19:26] <ankry>	 How the value is calculated?
[01:19:45] <ankry>	 Alan_ffm@plwikisource
[01:20:16] <ankry>	 https://pl.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Specjalna:Aktywni_użytkownicy
[01:20:38] <ankry>	 vs.
[01:20:51] <ankry>	 https://pl.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Specjalna%3AZarz%C4%85dzanie+kontem+uniwersalnym&target=Alan+ffm
[01:21:07] <rdwrer>	 ....odd
[01:36:28] <Gloria>	 ankry: Sixty total according to what?
[01:37:23] <Gloria>	 Never mind, I see it.
[01:38:07] <Reedy>	 gj Gloria
[01:38:35] <Gloria>	 I found the 60.
[01:38:42] <Gloria>	 Still looking for the 498.
[01:40:01] <Gloria>	 Got it.
[01:40:11] <Gloria>	 ankry: ActiveUsers is actions, not just edits. :-)
[01:40:34] <Gloria>	 ankry: So "Alan ffm" has 498 recent actions, but only 60 edits (total).
[01:40:59] <Gloria>	 Looks like the actions are Wikibase-related.
[01:41:04] <Gloria>	 Probably changing interwikis?
[01:42:20] <Gloria>	 ankry: http://p.defau.lt/?pbjaOuxonO2gQKRh4iDUYA
[03:14:17] <Withoutaname>	 is ULS responsible for the recent slowdowns lately?
[03:15:04] <Withoutaname>	 im receiving a lot of errors from https://bits.wikimedia.org/meta.wikimedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=site&only=styles&skin=monobook&*
[03:15:40] <Reedy>	 What sort of errors?
[03:18:39] <Withoutaname>	 in my browser console I think: http://tools.wmflabs.org/paste/view/ee9631c5
[03:25:25] <pirsquared>	 What is this about: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_wiki_feedback#Wikipedia_image_failures
[03:25:28] <pirsquared>	 ?
[03:26:17] <Reedy>	 examples would be very helpful
[03:26:20] <Reedy>	 "something is broken"
[03:26:23] <Reedy>	 is not
[03:26:30] <Newyorkadam>	 hey
[03:26:33] <Newyorkadam>	 Betacommand: hi
[03:29:01] <Withoutaname>	 I'm not sure what information I can give you
[03:29:59] <Withoutaname>	 all I know is that my browser (FF 27.0.1) is loading wiki pages really slow
[03:30:22] <Withoutaname>	 so I checked my console and had to disable javascript on any page I loaded
[03:35:14] <Betacommand>	 Newyorkadam: hay
[03:59:49] <Withoutaname>	 huh
[04:16:06] <Withoutaname>	 it's a bit better now
[07:51:25] <ankry>	 Gloria: thanks.
[07:55:51] <ankry>	 Gloria: pl translation of RecentChanges is misleading: in Polish the Engish "actions" are translated as "edycje" ("edits")
[11:13:57] <gry>	 ankry: where do you see the word 'action' in 'recent changes'?
[11:14:50] <gry>	 ankry: sratch that, I read up for a bit more context and that helped.
[12:47:02] <gry>	 ....wow
[12:47:07] <gry>	 https://www.wikivoyage.org/ has a list of sister projects at the top
[12:47:23] <gry>	 how can i enable that for all sister projects please
[12:48:20] <Withoutaname>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Www.wikivoyage.org_template
[13:19:08] <Nemo_bis>	 apergos: I'm importing a translatewiki.net dump... at 4.4 revs/sec ...
[13:20:10] <Nemo_bis>	 I don't want to quarrel with puppet over MySQL config though https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps/Tools_for_importing
[13:20:30] <Nemo_bis>	 (and I've no idea if the suggestions on Meta can really be trusted, some look rather weird)
[15:49:30] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: opera ftw https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Wikipedia_Zero/March_2014#Opera_Mini_support
[15:50:15] <MatmaRex>	 ha
[15:58:23] <Steinsplitter>	 mobile is evil
[16:31:26] <Nemo_bis>	 Oh, only 2 more weeks before GSoC applications deadlines https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
[16:31:33] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: so, did you decide to apply? :)
[16:32:52] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: i probably will
[16:33:08] <MatmaRex>	 i should probably have some actual draft of the projectand some possible mentors first tho ;)
[16:33:34] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: and what are you going to do more than you already do? :o
[16:34:06] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: probably something about making creations of custom skins suck a bit less
[16:34:10] <MatmaRex>	 creation*
[16:34:11] <Nemo_bis>	 Can't imagine any need for mentor, is it possible to have you mentor someone who mentors you in turn? :D Like, dunno, you mentoring Krenair and vice versa (or some other volunteer)
[16:34:18] <Nemo_bis>	 Ah, epic
[16:34:54] <MatmaRex>	 well, some mentor is supposed to exist :P
[16:35:25] <MatmaRex>	 i would also like my work to be, in fact, merged, and that would require someone looking at what i do too
[16:43:33] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: peer programming is the most effective; rarely mentors have enough time to get stuff merged for their students
[16:44:13] <Nemo_bis>	 But with such a project you'd need someone with inner knowledge of the skinning system (is it even possible? dunno)
[16:47:09] <MatmaRex>	 i'm not going to rewrite the skinning system itself, the "core" is not bad, but there's a lot of warts at the sides where it's integrated with everything
[16:47:40] <MatmaRex>	 where "everything" includes resourceloader, extension registering internals, autoloading magic, and the entirety of our client-side javascript
[16:47:54] <MatmaRex>	 and probably more things i've forgotten right now
[16:48:38] <MatmaRex>	 my major gripe is how core skins are interdependent on mediawiki core, mostly, and fixing that would require touching all of the above components
[18:27:47] <twkozlowski>	 Tech News #2014-11 has been published: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/11
[18:34:07] <Nemo_bis>	 I will never understand this published vs. delivered thing
[18:35:11] <twkozlowski>	 guillom will be more than happy to explain this to you, I am sure
[18:36:25] <Nemo_bis>	 I think "published" just means "closed" here :) (dunno if that's the term in English too) 
[18:36:33] <Nemo_bis>	 "ready for print" or something
[18:36:37] <Nemo_bis>	 imprimatur
[19:22:59] <twkozlowski>	 Is it a bug or a feature that if I block an account with the "hide user" option, and /then/ rename it, the supposedly hidden user name is visible in the rename log?
[20:36:17] <MatmaRex>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cunningham%27s_Law&diff=7767530&oldid=7766961 heh.
[20:46:44] <Reedy>	 MatmaRex: I made the page translateable ;)
[20:48:04] <MatmaRex>	 Reedy: someone just undid that. :P https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cunningham%27s_Law&diff=next&oldid=7767629
[20:48:47] <Reedy>	 Undone
[21:10:45] <Krenair>	 MatmaRex, Reedy: Ah that TeleComNasSprVen guy again. Doesn't know how to deal with edit conflicts either, apparently
[21:11:29] <Reedy>	 Krenair: Press the "Save my version, cause I'm right" button
[21:11:40] <Krenair>	 heh
[21:12:39] <Nemo_bis>	 {{w}} is such a silly template
[21:13:07] <Reedy>	 Swap them all for {{ll}
[21:13:08] <Reedy>	 }
[21:13:19] <Reedy>	 That looks to be something that should hit Wikidata tbh
[21:13:26] <Reedy>	 hoo: Make it so!
[21:13:36] <Nemo_bis>	 which of the two?
[21:14:28] <Reedy>	 Two of the what?
[21:15:10] <Reedy>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370&diff=598746400&oldid=598746320
[21:15:18] <Reedy>	 STOP DELETING MY CHANGES
[21:29:49] <ankry>	 gry: my mistake: s/RecentChanges/ActiveUsers/ :)