[00:02:40] hi there. it seems impossible to edit [[:de:Benutzer Diskussion:Emergency doc]], error: https://tools.wmflabs.org/paste/view/a811e165 [00:02:51] (database error) [00:02:55] other pages work well [00:06:36] there were issues approx. 1.5 hours ago [00:06:41] perhaps still persisting? [00:07:07] the strange think is that it’s happening only for that talk page [00:07:36] That was enwiki slaves [00:11:05] I didn't read that part. [00:11:42] API editing seems to work, too, as a bot just edited that page [00:12:42] oh, but as the bot posts the message on and on, the API probably does not return a success either [00:17:30] any ideas? [00:17:38] There's a couple of queries after the page dits that take 30 seconds or more [00:36:32] Reedy, is there anything to do about it or any person that should be contacted? [00:40:56] okay, it’s working again. thanks! [04:57:26] in case it's not known [04:57:42] Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Main+Page, from 10.128.0.117 via cp4008 cp4008 ([10.128.0.108]:3128), Varnish XID 2009102025 [04:57:43] Forwarded for: 71.95.99.124, 10.128.0.117 [04:57:43] Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:56:49 GMT [05:01:53] seems to be only when I try to log in [05:03:48] and meta [05:04:17] te-hick-nickle issues [05:05:23] RoanKattouw: ^ [05:05:44] Yeah saw [05:05:50] Don't know why yet [05:05:54] and Commons too [05:06:45] Whaaaaat [05:07:03] too many 'wikimedia error' errors..anyone else getting them? [05:07:09] -ops says ulsfo is dying [05:07:47] but he was born less than a year ago.. [05:07:53] And yet [05:09:01] won't be surprised if it is related to the recent '"forced" https format [05:21:39] warpath: It's almost certainly not [05:21:43] That's hardly recent, either [05:21:51] AFAICT the issues should be mostly over now? [05:22:07] It looks like a transient hiccup to me [06:44:22] Hello? [06:44:55] Is there some kind of maintenance tasks going on within Wiki-media/pedia, since yesterday? [06:45:05] We've had a couple hiccups today [06:45:12] Why, did you have issues? [06:45:55] Yeah, Wikimedia is performing some maintance tasks//server error// while saving changes on a page// [06:46:36] It was unavailable for 40-50 sec last night// +5:30GMT/// [06:48:02] Was "last night" around 4am perhaps? [06:48:32] Yeah!! [06:48:42] sometime 4-5, [06:48:44] Yeah so I get a text message when a service goes down or comes back up [06:48:57] And my phone was going completely crazy at 2:30pm PST today [06:48:59] Which is 4am IST [06:49:07] Aw! [06:49:31] Something weird happened, we don't know exactly what yet [06:49:40] Thanks for the great job done! It is apparently fine now. (except exceptions) [06:50:04] Yeah it came up pretty quick that time [06:50:27] There was another hiccup a few hours ago in the SF data center, but I don't think traffic from India should have been affected by that [06:50:55] I was asleep few hours ago. [06:51:11] heh [06:51:22] Well we had 3 outages today so I was just trying to figure out which one you were talking about ;) [06:51:53] I guess, all. [06:53:40] We also had a Parsoid outage ~4 hours ago, which would only have affected you if you were using VisualEditor at the time [06:56:56] 4 hours ago, there I was affected but didn't really feel it. [12:43:25] What forces to log off displaying me a notification every once in 30mins that Unified login enable hence re-load to apply your user settings// at least once a hour! [12:52:12] Anup: do you have any "privacy-enhancing" extensions instaled on your browser? [12:52:44] they often the cause of issues like that (by removing cookies sooner than it was intended by the developers) [12:53:41] There might be some. Actually thre's ton of extensions. [12:54:01] How would I find the particular extension causing this? [12:54:40] Privacy related, it Ad Block and 2 similar. [12:54:59] probably try disabling them one-by-one and see what fixes the issue :( [12:55:35] one extension half an hour wait..!! [12:55:40] nt a very good idea! [12:57:23] does the problem also happen with another browser? if not, I'd also blame your browser's extensions :) [12:58:32] I only use chrome/ [12:58:39] IE sucks a big time! [12:59:07] I feel slow net speed while using Mozilla. [13:00:53] Anup: andre__ and MatmaRex are trying to help you. Please be polite and at least try their suggestions instead of rejecting them immediately. [13:01:12] gone already :) [13:01:21] Doh. [14:01:28] helderwiki: tell me it's not true!!! https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34490 [14:01:45] why Nemo_bis ? [14:02:09] helderwiki: we were promised wikitech-l was not going to be broken again, are you sure it happened another time? [14:02:21] ah, yep [14:02:24] when? [14:02:35] I noticed another broken link on meta recently [14:02:53] Are you sure it was not added before the other breakage? [14:04:09] hmm, I don't know =/ [14:04:59] This one seems correct https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44262 [14:05:18] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46956 too [14:05:59] Granted, I've always linked gmane only since the last wikitech-l fiasco, but every now and then I'm lazy and I link pipermail [14:06:24] Remind me why emails ever need to be deleted? Can't they just be replaced by an 'This email was removed' marker? [14:06:49] valhallasw: they don't need to [14:07:02] but people rarely follow docs [14:07:14] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Remove_a_message_from_mailing_list_archive [14:07:33] Such requests should all be rejected unless there's a court order IMHO, always such a disruption [14:08:22] thanks Nemo_bis :) [14:08:59] what happened on wikitech, did somebody delete archive messages? [14:09:38] i sure didn't for exactly that reason [14:09:41] I don't think so, only helderwiki suspected so but it was about a 2012 message [14:09:48] ok, then..ok [14:09:58] Let's not spread panic unless we have better proofs :) [14:10:03] ok:) [14:10:14] i remember that it would reindex the message ids, breaking old urls to posts... [14:10:23] but i'm not sure if that is still the case [14:10:35] We had a couple hundreds broken URLs in bugzilla last time it happened, nobody ever fixed them so the backlog is big [14:10:39] yes, that, it did happen [14:10:52] Yes, pipermail is unpredictable [14:10:54] so, is there a time interval in which the message links are supposed to be broken? [14:11:03] it may happen, or not [14:11:31] no, there is a time when they got renumbered i'd say [14:12:04] as in all messages before X are renumbered? Or as in all messages between X and Y? [14:12:16] helderwiki: all links up to August 2012 http://markmail.org/message/ysdwq3jglnkpj5vy [14:12:31] ok, what Nemo says:) [14:12:59] oh, wait [14:13:10] even if you put just XXXX there, instead of deleting a message [14:13:20] you think then it can't happen, right [14:13:31] just post the message-id! ;-) [14:13:34] but you still need to run the command that rebuilds the entire archive from mbox [14:13:43] and it ..still.. happened [14:13:54] that you got broken links [14:14:03] yes, it's a combination of things [14:14:23] anyway, let's just not EVER rebuild archives [14:14:25] maybe..because somebody else edited the mbox in between, without running the arch command.. or .. mystery of the rebuilding process [14:14:31] yea [14:18:49] Nemo_bis: FYI: this was the other link I fixed recently: [14:18:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Category_intersection?diff=591727206 [14:22:52] 2004 and linked in 2008 (after another archive breakage), nothing new then V [14:22:55] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Category_intersection&diff=prev&oldid=197020866 [14:46:18] Hello, I have a short question about gettingstarted. I tried #growth but it seems that there is no one awake there. [14:46:28] On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GettingStarted it says there is a special page, but it does not seem to work. Is that a new change or is it a bug? [15:16:44] Ainali: did you try on a wiki where it's enabled and with an appropriate URL parameter? [15:20:12] Nemo_bis: This is the link I was referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GettingStarted [15:21:06] It's probably an unlisted special page [15:21:43] But I got an answer in the #growth, it is deprecated and the page on enwiki is not updated yet [15:21:50] It changed last Thursday [15:22:36] Yep, usual pains of creating documentation in the wrong wikis [19:00:03] hello [19:00:18] trying to get phpmyadmin working on my tool account [19:00:26] can anybody help? [19:02:23] phpmyadmin is a great security flaw [19:04:01] Probably better asking in #wikimedia-labs [19:04:08] Though, running it per account is probably even worse [19:04:37] Superyetkin: i hear the alternative is you can use mysql workbench and tunnel it [19:04:51] Superyetkin: there is something on wikitech supposedly. lemme see [19:05:16] Superyetkin: here, https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help#Configuring_MySQL_Workbench [19:05:23] from Coren [19:06:30] better not use phpmyadmin [19:07:15] cannot use workbench here [19:07:33] Why not? [19:07:36] I tried it but was not able to connect... [19:08:10] Superyetkin: well, you need to tunnel through ssh , that's what the wiki page should explain [19:08:11] I am on Windows XP and there seem to be some issues with PuttyGen-created SSH keys [19:08:13] 1, 2, 1, 2, 3 [19:08:25] Reedy: :p [19:08:28] already tried that, no luck [19:08:55] well, thats an issue with pagent.exe [19:09:01] not workbench [19:09:15] Superyetkin: start pagent.exe, load key, minimize to tray, try again [19:09:44] comes with the full putty bundle installer [19:12:36] greg-g can you get someone to do the deploy please? laptop with a dead battery, and no power adapter. commit is on tin, staged and in gerrit. needs reviewing and merging then sync-wikiversions [19:12:43] should be trivial [19:13:37] supposed to add my key to pagent? [19:14:28] Oh my. [19:15:42] yes [19:17:58] ok, thanks [19:18:04] connection successful :) [19:18:37] but cannot see any data on query result page [19:18:45] only data types... [19:22:10] Reedy: eek, ok [19:22:27] ^d: since you were on tin last, mind helping out with today's mw deploy? see above [19:23:01] <^d> I was on tin last? [19:23:03] * ^d doubts [19:23:04] <^d> Sure :D [19:23:18] thanks [19:24:11] <^d> This the commit? [19:24:12] <^d> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112740/ [19:24:41] looks like it [19:24:43] <^d> signs point to yes. [19:25:58] <^d> greg-g: Deploy now? [19:26:25] ^d: yes please [19:26:59] <^d> {{done}} [19:27:05] <^d> Well, except tampa. [19:27:13] <^d> sync-wikiversions hasn't worked for me in tampa for weeks. [19:27:24] who cares :) [19:28:01] <^d> I'm manually syncing the files to tampa. [19:28:04] <^d> Someone might care. [19:28:28] :)