[07:53:57] Gloria: https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/list [08:00:43] Don't make me. :-( [08:00:48] Sleeeeeep. [08:05:07] * Nemo_bis takes whip and glares at Gloria  [08:05:50] We need more stars anyway, if you want it to be fixed. :P [09:40:38] hi, has there been any deployment/change regarding Special:Block? on svwp the tab-index on that page has changed. [11:29:49] fluff: changed how? [11:30:02] last change was several months ago AFAIK [11:39:08] (Also asked at #mediawiki; if they share something I will share here.) Hi all. How do I put a text variable into edit box, instead of template contents (which is what preload does). [12:42:52] andre__: should the upstream reports linked in http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/new-gerrit-change-view-comments be tracked in some bugzilla report? [13:14:05] Hi, i keep getting parse errors on tags with \begin{align} [13:14:26] example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine#Identities [13:15:15] it says Failed to parse(unknown function '\begin'): {\begin{aligned}\sin \theta &=\cos \left({\frac {\pi }{2}}-\theta \right)\\&={\frac {1}{\csc \theta }}\end{aligned}} [13:16:26] which is weird, because in page source it's \begin{align}, without -ed [13:16:40] anyone knows what's going on? [13:18:04] zyla: there were big changes lately, report a bug please [13:18:27] Nemo_bis: ok, thanks [13:48:54] Nemo_bis, would that be helpful for anybody? I don't see a need for copying random upstream tickets if it does not help anybody. [13:49:27] I don't know or I wouldn't ask :) [14:08:00] Nemo_bis: do you know how to protect a translationsubpage? [14:08:50] You do not have permission to change protection levels for this page, for the following reasons: [14:08:51] This page cannot be updated manually. This page is a translation of the page Template:Personality rights/i18n and the translation can be updated using the translation tool. [14:12:58] Steinsplitter: have you checked the manual? :) [14:13:08] You need to use priority languages [14:15:25] complex tool :O [14:15:27] thx :) [14:52:53] Nemo_bis: if the "length" select-box is selected and I press [tab] I end up in the find-box (top right) not in the "reason" select-box [14:53:46] any issues with TeX integration known about ? Got some errors at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials#Definition [14:54:56] fluff: with Vector, I assume? [14:55:01] Nemo_bis: yes [14:55:41] NotASpy: yes, several issues even, cache involved though so you may need action=purge? check bugzilla and report [14:55:52] Nemo_bis: html-wise I see that there's tab-index attribute on the target and length boxes, but not on the rest of that form [14:56:17] will do Nemo_bis [14:56:28] fluff: uh, right, nasty [15:01:50] there is only tabindex 1 and 2, can't remember if it was like that before too [15:02:02] the page doesn't want to purge (for me, anyway). [15:03:15] Nemo_bis: me neither [15:08:52] OK, page purged eventually, took about 10 minutes and it's made no difference. I'll do a bug report (or check and add to an existing one) later. [15:09:37] NotASpy, there are numerous errors listed under https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60997 [15:09:45] see list of dependencies [18:12:41] Hello. I've been seeing latex rendering issues on a lot of Wikipedia pages. Is this a known issue? [18:12:57] e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergeometric_function#Special_cases [18:13:19] brainsturgeon: how long has this been the case? longer than 24 hours? [18:14:10] yes. [18:14:14] since yesterday [18:14:34] at least since yesterday at 12 noon. [18:15:25] Sounds like a known issue, then [18:15:34] Math had problems during yesterday's deploy [18:15:46] well, there were several major breaking changes introduced to the math extension that were deployed yesterday [18:16:11] this doesn't sound like the same problem, but it might tip the scale toward reverting the extension to a known-good state [18:16:12] What's the syntax change causing the failure? I can correct them as I see them. [18:16:25] <^d> ori: Reverting it would be painful. [18:16:26] i'm not sure [18:16:29] <^d> It should be fine at this point. [18:16:39] i'm not sure was re: syntax change [18:17:05] <^d> There shouldn't be any syntax changes. [18:17:57] <^d> And that error is *not related* to what we saw yesterday. [18:18:20] <^d> (It may have gone out with those changes, but that single change we discussed yesterday isn't at fault) [18:19:13] Other examples, cf. "Stirling's Approximation", "Binomial Distribution" [18:19:29] <^d> ori: Reverting would cause mass cache invalidations again. [18:19:39] <^d> If we rolled all the way back properly. [18:19:49] ^d: OK, so let's not [18:19:53] Failures are all on "align" environments as far as I've seen. [18:20:02] <^d> Yeah, seems like it. [18:21:05] Possibly *every* align environment. I've yet to find one rendered properly. [18:23:16] <^d> It's still in the list of acceptable commands, syntax shouldn't have changed. [18:24:28] <^d> Bleh, I wish I knew more about texvc. [18:25:31] ^d: found the fix. [18:25:43] replace with [18:26:00] <^d> Hmm. [18:32:46] *found *a* fix. probably some way to use \ensuremath to programatically fix every page. [18:41:12] ... [18:41:16] um I did not mean to do that. [18:41:18] sorry. [18:41:42] http://ur1.ca/edq1o | Bugs: https://bugs.wikimedia.org | Error counts: http://tinyurl.com/n3twd8k [18:41:47] Oops [18:41:52] rdwer: thank you. [18:41:58] No problem [20:01:38] Has someone implemented a complete MediaWiki syntax parser yet? [20:02:41] codeforfun: MediaWiki seems to have one. [20:02:50] codeforfun: but really, it depends on what you mean with 'complete' [20:05:41] Have fun https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers [20:09:17] valhallasw: I'm interested in using a mediawiki capable parser (i.e. one that knows the different coordinate template format for each language) to extract geo coordinates from articles [20:41:51] I'm cloning mediawiki/core at 15 Kb/second [20:41:55] that's not exactly fast. [20:42:25] or, well, it says 15 KiB, so slightly better than Kb [20:44:00] kibibytes [20:44:43] twkozlowski: from gerrit, git.wm.o or github? [20:44:44] mutante: it depends who you are :-) a sales man or a programmer [20:45:33] twkozlowski: github is the fastest in my experience, but mw/core is always slow as hell. [20:45:49] codeforfun: heh,ok, well WP says KiB is kibi [20:46:21] codeforfun: KiB is always 1024 bytes. No discussion on that [20:46:38] per IEC vs JEDEC.. argg. just had that discussion the other day :) it's alright [20:46:50] twkozlowski: https or ssh? [20:46:55] I also think no-one would use Kb to use 1000 bytes (as that should be kb) [20:47:07] mutante: there's a bug for that too [20:47:13] valhallasw: you mean kB [20:47:36] no, I meant 1000 bits :-) [20:47:42] Nemo_bis: ssh [20:48:03] (but 1000 bytes should be kB, yes) [20:48:08] twkozlowski: please check top, in my experience it's usually CPU-bound [20:48:17] see the table on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte [20:48:43] * Nemo_bis needs no tables [20:48:47] top says Cpu(s): 9.5%us, [20:49:06] yes, but idle? [20:49:18] everyone join the units flame party at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52687 [20:49:19] Nemo_bis: but i want visual editor to make them :) [20:49:40] haha, oh for real [20:49:45] mutante: at that point making tables will be nothing to be proud of and everyone will stop [20:50:14] twkozlowski: anyway, the bug is supposedly https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56034 [20:50:15] valhallasw: maybe I should try GitHub next time [20:50:24] or, well [20:50:33] I've been stuck at 71% for about half an hour now [20:50:45] just try it in parallel ;-) [21:30:08] It is incredibly anoying that I have to leave a page when I save it, such as when editing scripts. There is the API around, seems it would be already possible to write a box which stays open and saves using AJAX. [21:30:43] * gry files a bug for CodeEditor. [22:25:48] MaxSem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61058 [22:26:34] thanks