[14:44:54] andre__: why are bugzilla attachments broken again? [14:49:30] Nemo_bis: but they're not. [14:51:16] MatmaRex: do you see an image at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=14482&action=edit ? [14:53:55] Nemo_bis: no, but http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=14482 open in the browser [14:54:30] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=14482&action=edit used to work too though [14:54:51] and it has a 'Content-disposition: inline;" header [14:55:43] probably that's not covered by the hack that was applied [14:55:50] who cares? [14:57:53] I [16:09:28] Nemo_bis, where is the page that links to that link? [16:09:36] (instead of bug-attachment.wm.org?) [16:12:08] emails [16:12:22] or the [details] links [16:12:28] probably others [16:58:22] MatmaRex: I suppose this bug is related to the RC refactor? https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/Recent_changes_limit [17:14:03] Nemo_bis: yes, there's a bug filed and a patch pending [17:14:39] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111201 [17:15:49] Hmpf, how did I miss that when searching [18:20:13] anomie: Actually the deployment schedule Lua module takes daylight savings time into account. The reason I changed it is because most of the people who do deployments are in SF and people are constantly signing up for the wrong lightning deployment windows because of the UTC date. [18:20:44] anomie, could I at least add the SF date as a column (although not first maybe)? [18:21:30] kaldari: The column *header* was hard-coded as PST. The module already adds an indicator to the SF time when it's a different day from the UTC time, that's not good enough? [18:22:06] anomie: No, the tiny SF date in parethesis is barely noticable [18:23:00] anomie: Oh yeah, I guess "PST" isn't right for the header. Doh! [18:23:12] kaldari: OTOH, having a whole huge column for the SF date takes away space that could be better used in the Description column. [18:23:42] Isn't Reedy based in the UK? [18:24:59] he does a lot of deployments, PST is perhaps not exactly too convenient for him, is it? [18:25:21] I think he's still visiting SF at the moment (and working on moving here) [18:25:21] but don't quote me on it.. I just know I saw him here a couple days ago :) [18:25:26] yes, and there are a couple other deployers not in SF [18:25:26] well, more than a couple with deployment ability [18:25:59] Jamesofur: I think he left recently, as in yesterday or today. [18:26:07] ahh [18:27:42] anomie: The main problem is that the lightning deployment windows are always on a different date in SF than UTC, so that's what causes the confusion. I'm open to other ideas though [18:27:57] Yeah Reedy flew out yesterday [18:28:12] He should have gotten home a few hours ago I suppose [18:29:08] What if we just shifted UTC 1 time zone over? :) [18:30:08] Actually, if we started the lightning deployment windows 1 minute earlier, they would be on the same day. [18:30:32] Maybe I'll suggest that to greg-g [18:33:04] kaldari: I think we should add additional lightning deploy windows at about 6am SF time. They wouldn't have that problem either ;) [18:33:46] anomie: I'll suggest that as well and see what people think :) [18:34:37] kaldari: sure :) [18:34:54] kaldari: Would it suffice to make the tiny SF day in parentheses a normal-size SF day in parentheses? [18:35:15] anomie: We should also use the blink tag [18:35:32] This will be the first legitimate use of the blink tag in history :) [18:35:37] Does any browser still support the blink tag? [18:35:45] probably not :( [18:36:30] * anomie suggests someone could legitimately use the blink tag in ASCII art of a car signalling a turn [18:37:01] lol [18:37:53] Firefox removed blink in 23.0, Opera in 15.0. IE, Chrome, and Safari never supported it, according to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/blink [18:38:41] Although... you could probably do it with CSS animations now. [18:39:02] anomie: now you're talking [18:39:38] kaldari: But then you can do more than just make it blink. You can make it *dance*! [18:39:52] * andre__ favors marquee [18:40:05] * anomie resists the temptation to try to figure out the CSS animation code for a tag [18:43:14] ... you could make it a different colour? or italicize it [18:44:40] or we could just turn caching off and have it display your local date :) [18:45:17] I was going to write some Common.js that did that [18:45:27] it's why everything is wrapped in date tags [18:45:35] but I got distracted [18:45:43] I thought about it, but it seemed like more effort than it was worth [18:46:06] wouldn't be a bad solution though [21:42:53] can someone give me an estimation of the requests per second, the wikimedia servers have to deal with (I'm mostly interested in wikipedia) [21:44:15] I get ~7500 Pageviews from the stats page, but one pageview includes several http requests [21:45:20] Look under ganglia.wikimedia.org - it's all seperated by stuff though [21:45:39] thx [21:48:47] cant find a graph for http requests [21:51:34] Sorry I mean gdash (the public interface for graphite) rather than ganglia [21:51:44] http://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/reqsum/ for example [21:52:21] You can customise the graphics by hacking up the urls if required [21:52:38] ok [21:53:26] next question would be, what happens if a server crashes or a meteor hits one of the datacenters [21:53:56] About the same as when someone cuts all the fibre connections [21:54:10] Also everyone dies, we have bigger issues that wikipedia working etc [21:56:01] who does upload wizard/chunked uploads these days? [21:56:16] maybe kaldari knows :) [21:56:27] just a small meteor... only affecting the datacenter [21:56:54] is the process, that will start if someone cuts a fibre, documented anywhere? [21:57:22] Damianz: if everyone dies then [[w:letters of last resort]] [21:58:13] :P [22:03:30] jeremyb: might want to talk to marktraceur [22:04:04] k, danke [22:05:13] Uh oh. [22:05:19] jeremyb: Hi! This is marktraceur. [22:05:37] rdwrer: yeah, just figured that out :) [22:05:45] via guest8\d{3} [22:05:50] Heh. [22:06:20] jeremyb: nickserv's info marktraceur might be faster [22:06:34] rdwrer: i had /lastlog [22:06:48] Ah, right. [22:06:52] Anyway, what's up? [22:07:20] rdwrer: can you currently do chucnked upload somewhere other than commons? is the wizard even enabled elsewhere? [22:07:34] Yes. [22:07:50] Apparently yes. [22:08:04] I would suggest test/test2, but I'm not sure if you can pull off a chunky upload there. [22:08:05] chunked* [22:08:17] rdwrer: i'm thinking closed wikis [22:08:31] to upload big secret files. (in this case idk if the file is actually secret) [22:08:45] You can do them there, I believe...I think we get appropriate tokens from the API. [22:08:47] donatewiki, foundationwiki [22:09:10] rdwrer: RT 6764 [22:09:12] I don't know about where it's deployed, I guess twkozlowski is more helpful there [22:09:24] I still don't have an RT account, jeremyb :P [22:09:27] twkozlowski: i mean fishbowl [22:09:28] rowiki, testwiki, test2wiki, commonswiki, donatewiki, foundationwiki [22:09:31] rdwrer: wtf [22:09:31] I think. [22:09:35] Wait, maybe I do [22:09:35] Sec [22:09:37] jeremyb: then perhaps none [22:10:07] none that I can see in our config files, at least [22:10:08] I stand corrected [22:10:09] Maybe there is Secret Configuration File that I don't know of [22:10:44] rdwrer: hah, i see 6470 [22:12:44] Oh. [22:12:49] jeremyb: I think the answer here is for Reedy to help her upload it to officewiki [22:13:00] rdwrer: well Reedy will automatically get an email once she replies :) [22:13:01] Righto