[00:25:49] did quentin's SUL go down? [00:28:23] just special:centralauth isnt bad not [00:28:23] it didnt showed flags before, did it? [00:38:22] it didn't [00:38:26] now it does :) [00:41:27] thats if i remember correctly was the thing why i used tools instead of it [00:42:15] the only minus now is that unlike tools it doesnt show wikis like otrs-wiki or wmf wiki [00:45:04] well, the problem is that those wikis dont use CentralAuth [00:47:51] yes there's a limit for the stretching of its scope [00:51:40] Yep, sure [00:52:42] But perhaps ca should cover them somewhen but with keeping different pass. If it would have such feature ever [00:53:27] Is there an wikimedia tech admin in the house? It is my opinion that a gerrit change has gone in without the appropriate authorisation https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60408 [00:53:52] legoktm: ^^ [00:54:00] hi [00:54:29] that smallwii global filter has gone in, and it is not right yet [00:54:44] I don't think that it is appropriate that techs are making community ecisions [00:54:49] decisions [00:55:05] I don't think anyone is really around right now since the Architecture Summit just finished last night [00:55:25] then why the hell did it rolled out? [00:55:33] it get [00:56:12] i have no clue [00:56:18] k [00:57:24] are you sure it's been deployed though? I don't see any hits on https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&offset=&limit=500 [00:57:35] oh [00:57:37] 21:23, 25 January 2014: User:PatriciaUrbina (cs.wikiversity.org) triggered an abuse filter, performing the action "edit" on Uživatel:PatriciaUrbina. Actions taken: Tag; Filter description: Global test filter against Ntsamr [00:57:50] 03:58 logmsgbot: reedy synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php [00:57:53] aha [00:58:18] sDrewth: I think the person to talk to is greg-g or cstiepp [00:59:26] nope, Philippe [01:00:02] this is a policy issue, not a technical issue [01:01:27] err [01:01:35] I meant in terms of getting it reverted [01:03:33] yeah, I will hit the bugzilla chain [01:03:57] did you answer Hoo's question? [01:04:38] he'll probably submit a patch himself to exclude the unwanted wikis if you explain how to determine them :) [01:12:04] sDrewth should we submit an RFC to meta expanding the scope of GAF to smallwikis [01:12:17] Nemo_bis: sure I did, though my issue is the process which is undertaken [01:12:54] Withoutaname: it is my opinion that is the means to progress it [01:13:21] k i was just checking if metawiki's RFC is the appropriate venue for it [01:13:37] besides meta, mwwiki and testwiki what others is it enabled on [01:13:50] and I didn't have a real issue with the proposal as it was, just that the proposal has been rushed, been made technical, not political [01:14:08] it is inately policy [01:14:29] implicit policy is bad [01:14:35] it should be documented somewhere on meta at least [01:14:56] so people dont get all confused "what what meta overextending its authority again" [01:17:18] yes [01:17:36] oh I noticed some of the concerns were whether it should be opt-in or opt-out for the small wikis [01:18:25] and excluding GS from the list [01:18:49] Withoutaname: what is is an how it is going to be used should be what is the discussion [01:18:58] what it [01:19:08] sheesh, I am so off on typing today [01:21:13] even if it is not an RFC, and more a statement of what is going to be done, is better than nothing [06:15:37] Hey. Today when I've been refreshing pages that transclude other pages, (such as talk pages with Good Article reviews transcluded on them, or things using Template:Numbered subpages, I'm not seeing the changes. [06:15:50] The only way I see the changes is if I purge the cache [06:16:02] not even ctrl+shift+r is working [06:16:53] should I file a bug, or is this intentional? [07:12:50] I thought that always happened [07:13:01] usually a null edit works [07:14:02] from personal experience changes to a substed template are always faster to see than changes to a transcluded template [07:14:53] Sven I think that's intentional b/c the purge caching is serverside [07:14:58] and thus your browser has nothing to do with it [07:15:29] well it's an unwelcome change from when I was last working in portals, in November or December [07:16:00] Withoutaname: substituting doesn't work in this case [07:16:25] See, for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Literature/Did_you_know [07:17:04] What is a good API query to check confirm that a page with a given name doesn't exist, and that the name is valid? [11:06:24] peaks and lows in https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/reqwiki/ are crazy [11:06:38] and what's that 6.20 drop, udplog outage? sigh [14:21:38] twkozlowski: wanna add https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/63395/ to tech news because i'm jetlagged? [14:21:45] !technext [14:21:46] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Next [14:44:02] MatmaRex: we freezed this week's issue yesterday evening [14:44:04] so no hurry now [15:15:05] MatmaRex, hey. you back at home as well then? [15:17:25] yep [15:17:59] i think i should hit the bed� i've been up for nearly 24h now [15:18:14] i had a non-reclining middle seat on my flight :/ [15:20:08] :( [15:20:32] MatmaRex, I can't be awake during a flight. It's usually so long that I start sleeping as soon as it takes off. [15:21:17] the sound of the engines drives me mad [15:21:26] it's earlier to sleep on a bus or something for me [15:23:36] MatmaRex, when was your flight? [15:23:59] leaving 1:45 pm or something [15:24:23] (i left the hotel early, before 10 am i think) [15:30:03] Krenair: bored? [15:30:18] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/topic:watchlist+is:open,n,z [15:54:11] MatmaRex, well I would be if I didn't have a load emails from gerrit already asking me to review stuff [15:58:30] MatmaRex where have you been traveling from and to? [15:59:11] Sir_Designer: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014 [16:00:00] MatmaRex wat. you just got bck to Poland from SF without stopping by in Chicago to say hi? [16:01:22] heh [16:01:32] well, yeah. :) [16:01:55] i'm afraid there aren't too many flight directly to/from chicago from/to krakow [16:02:01] flights* [16:03:11] let me guess.. SFI to JFK on AA, continuing under codeshare on LOT to KRK? [16:03:53] naaah, via frankfurt [16:04:01] (and i went the other way via munich) [16:04:04] and Lufthansa [16:04:20] yup [16:04:44] well, that was smart. Lufthansa is superior cabin service and hte flight attendants are flawless [16:05:14] but a seat out of kilter? on a Lufthansa transatlantic flight? horrors. [16:06:34] the flight back was actually operated by united [16:07:04] (i did like lufthansa's service better) [16:07:59] ou need to go something like Pacific Cathaway or JAL to get as good a transcontinental cabin service as Lufthansa, imho. AA sucks, always did. [16:08:03] also, there's no free wifi on united, huh [16:09:08] the ticket costs like a thousand bucks (i suppose, i wasn't paying ;) ) and they want me to pay on top of that [16:09:46] there was no wifi on virgin :( [16:09:58] if you have to fly a US carrier over the Atlantic or laterally along the Americas, always Delta, never AA [16:11:04] and Atlanta or Cincinnati are much nicer hassle-free airports than JFK or Newark [16:11:23] JFK is particularly gruesome, what witht he idiotic bus shuttles between every terminal [16:19:58] MatmaRex so TOR was there and he is nolonger active on wikipedia (pl)? [16:20:46] yep and yep [16:25:03] Sir_Designer_: he was representing Wikia, Inc. [16:30:54] "representing" [16:31:20] why the quotation marks, Nemo_bis [16:33:01] for official embassies there was the vice-president :P [16:33:55] no idea what this means. [16:34:06] ok [16:36:43] MatmaRex: the wifi was not free because you are paying a lot. That means you can also afford paying $$$ for wifi. [16:36:58] It's the same in hotels: in cheap motels you get free wifi, while in $200/night hotels you have to pay extra [16:37:50] Not exactly. [16:38:05] Maybe I should've said: not everywhere. [16:39:09] valhallasw: it's stupid whichever way you try justifying it :P [16:40:11] Why, it's quite reasonable from an economical point of view [16:40:25] MatmaRex: not from the point of view of the [airline/hotel/whatever] [16:40:37] MatmaRex: Why give something for free if you can charge for it, and earn more that way? [16:40:55] the $30 on top of the $1000 isn't really a noticeable markup, is it? [16:41:10] As long as passengers won't choose different airlines which provide free WiFi, it won't change. [16:41:14] free markets etc. [16:41:17] I mean, these are *airlines* we are talking about. Their entire fare structure is based on 'how much can we sell this for', and not 'what is a reasonable price' [16:41:30] conclusion: fly lufthansa [16:41:33] :D [16:41:57] be back later. [16:41:58] but do they provide free WiFi on all their trans-Atlantic flights? [16:42:17] they did on the one i flew :D [16:42:19] afk [16:43:18] http://boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2013/12/24/free-lufthansa-flynet-inflight-internet/ says not on A380s [16:45:27] MatmaRex: on a related note, is there free WiFi at EPKK/KRK? [16:46:39] hmm, not sure. i think there is [16:46:46] really afk now. [17:03:07] is it possible to override bad target model error? to rename page to .js in other words [17:07:48] Cladis: do you mean https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53115 ? [17:09:25] helderwiki: vice versa to bug's title - from User:Smb/Page to User:Smb/Page.js [17:09:30] thanks for the link [17:10:01] hmm.. I believe the underlying problem is the same. [18:15:32] now how do I restore a pad after some vandalism https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/summit_day1/timeslider#2088 [19:06:26] Nemo_bis, copy the good version and paste as last one? [19:10:10] Platonides: pasting doesn't really work well; I did, but it adds trailing whitespace and often loses authorship information [19:10:56] IIRC my request to restore this very basic feature etherpad had was wontfixed [19:11:47] well, almost https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/1791 [20:34:58] ori: i put a latest version of the afch2.js thingie to github (https://github.com/Gryllida/Afch2/blob/master/script.js), I tried using jshint but it asked me to not loop through an array and I fell over trying to do that [20:47:01] gry: i'll look later, not able to atm. maybe ask for some additional review on wikitech?