[09:57:52] <mutante>	 .seen kartik
[10:03:51] <Nikerabbit>	 he is on #mediawiki-i18n
[10:04:15] <mutante>	 Nikerabbit: tx
[11:31:29] <F6697>	 Hello. I just encountered a real-time problem with WP, not sure if it is bug or a server issue. 
[11:31:52] <twkozlowski>	 F6697: Go on...
[11:32:48] <F6697>	 Search engine issue. Type "many small edits" (no quotes) in the search box. After the results come up click "Project and Help pages"
[11:33:18] <twkozlowski>	 What project does this occur on?
[11:33:30] <F6697>	 I get the message "An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error: " 
[11:33:35] <F6697>	 En. Wikipedia
[11:35:36] <twkozlowski>	 !b 47761
[11:35:37] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47761
[11:35:44] <twkozlowski>	 !b 56936
[11:35:44] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56936
[11:35:46] <twkozlowski>	 one of those
[11:37:45] <F6697>	 twkoz, I think the latter .. I am also located west coast
[11:38:29] <twkozlowski>	 F6697: I can reproduce it while being located on no coast
[11:38:41] <twkozlowski>	 I'm far away from any seas or oceans, actually.
[11:38:52] <F6697>	 ok .. just saw that comment in the bug report
[11:39:24] <twkozlowski>	 OK :)
[11:39:33] <twkozlowski>	 I'm sure Nik will respond to it once he wakes up
[11:40:09] <F6697>	 if I try other search terms I dont have that problem .. could it be something related to "too many results" considering the words I am looking for ?
[11:40:38] <twkozlowski>	 I have no idea.
[11:40:47] <F6697>	 okay .. thanks
[11:40:52] <F6697>	 one last thing ...
[11:40:55] <F6697>	 I know this is the tech channel but maybe you could help .. I was looking for that old essay about building articles slowly by many small edits .. any ideas what it was called?
[11:40:58] <twkozlowski>	 English Wikipedia will be switching its search engine backend soon
[11:41:11] <twkozlowski>	 so this might not need any fixes
[11:41:48] <twkozlowski>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Every_edit_must_stand_on_its_own_feet F6697 ?
[11:42:05] <F6697>	 what engine will they be switching to? not google I hope (sigh) so many useless results so often with google
[11:42:16] <twkozlowski>	 F6697: [[mw:CirrusSearch]]
[11:42:20] <twkozlowski>	 whoops
[11:42:24] <twkozlowski>	 !cirrus
[11:42:42] <twkozlowski>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CirrusSearch
[11:42:45] <twkozlowski>	 it's really good.
[11:43:19] <F6697>	 cool. I dont know that one but glad to hear it's an improvement
[11:43:35] <twkozlowski>	 F6697: actually you'll be able to use it starting Jan 13
[11:44:23] <F6697>	 as for the essay, not that one .. i am looking for the one that is something like rome wasnt built in a day ... articles are built by many small contributions .. a very early essay
[11:45:25] <twkozlowski>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Rome_wasn't_built_in_a_day
[11:48:00] <twkozlowski>	 F6697: in any case, there are a lot of links in the template at the bottom of that first URL
[11:49:06] <F6697>	 twkozlowski, yes, I think I can find it from here .. thanks for getting me started. :)
[11:49:19] <twkozlowski>	 sure
[12:39:06] <skalman12>	 hi! I have a question about UniversalLanguageSelector: do different wikis have different settings? <span lang=sux>𒄖𒉈𒅁𒌨𒅎</span> is enhanced to include fonts on {{en|sv}.wikipedia|mediawiki}.org, but not on {en|sv}.wiktionary.org
[12:46:26] <arav93>	 Could someone review? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/101820/
[12:57:00] <arav93>	 Could someone review? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/101820/
[13:00:04] <skalman12>	 re. UniversalLanguageSelector: looks like there are some settings modifying the behavior.. haven't figured it out though
[13:01:21] <mutante>	 arav93: try the "rebase" button, to answer your question from the bug
[13:05:47] <skalman12>	 re. UniversalLanguageSelector: and the fonts are added with JS
[13:17:05] <skalman12>	 re. UniversalLanguageSelector: I can't figure out what setting is causing the trouble
[13:36:49] <skalman12>	 re. UniversalLanguageSelector: after deleting all cookies it works as expected (not 100% sure that there is a connection between the two, but it seems likely)
[13:55:43] <arav93>	 Could you say how I can clone for this bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45771
[13:58:22] <Nemo_bis>	 arav93: you should see a clone link
[13:59:46] <arav93>	 Nemo_bis:  Where?
[14:01:15] <andre__>	 Reedy: Is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58074#c18 something for today's deployment window?
[14:01:40] <andre__>	 arav93, "Clone this bug" at the bottom. However not sure why you'd want to clone.
[14:01:53] <andre__>	 (the text search in your browser can be useful to find stuff on a webpage)
[14:03:03] <arav93>	 I meant how would I be able to clone the repo that contains the bug.
[14:11:41] <andre__>	 arav93, this looks like Core so you probably want to clone MediaWiki Core.
[14:12:58] <arav93>	 I guess that's what I meant. As why you know I'm new here and I haven't quite got around yet.  This is the bug. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45771
[14:13:19] <Nemo_bis>	 arav93: tried https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial ?
[14:14:13] <arav93>	 Yes but I don't know the exact name of the 'thing' that must be cloned.
[14:14:30] <andre__>	 I would have also linked to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker  :)
[14:14:38] <andre__>	 arav93, what have you tried already, in order to find out?
[14:14:40] <andre__>	 Please tell me
[14:15:04] <andre__>	 Plus I wrote here four minutes ago: <andre__> arav93, this looks like Core so you probably want to clone MediaWiki Core.
[14:19:42] <arav93>	 I would like to know the steps involved in fixing bug 45771. From scratch.
[14:20:59] <andre__>	 arav93, set up local mediawiki instance, find place where to fix the code for the bug, change code and test it, when it works create patch for Gerrit, push Gerrit patch, wait for somebody to review and merge it.
[14:21:07] <andre__>	 some of these steps might have several iterations.
[14:21:24] <andre__>	 This should be covered on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[14:22:09] <arav93>	 I have set up the local mediawiki instance. Now I'd like to know where I can find where to fix tghe code. 
[14:23:04] <andre__>	 arav93, the bug is about handling of namespaces and special pages.
[14:23:47] <andre__>	 arav93: so your question should not be "how I can clone for this bug" like you asked above, but you may want to ask "where can I find the code in the code base that triggers bug 45771" instead.
[14:23:54] <arav93>	 So where would I find it?
[14:24:05] <andre__>	 and describe what the code does, so people don't have to click the bug report first to answer your question.
[14:24:18] <andre__>	 that should help you to be more successful getting answers on IRC.
[14:24:38] <andre__>	 (and I personally cannot answer your question, as I don't know the codebase too well.)
[14:25:30] <arav93>	 Wow thanks andre__ 
[14:25:36] <arav93>	 That'd help me. 
[14:25:56] <arav93>	 Ok, I'll ask somebody else.
[17:23:31] <Nemo_bis>	 about 26 confused users in here if someone wants to triage a bit more than I did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Henrik
[19:09:00] <jackmcbarn>	 all the stylesheets on enwp are intermittently failing to load for me
[19:09:27] <Withoutaname>	 servers are slow again?
[19:10:08] <Reedy>	 bits 503
[19:10:51] <Reedy>	 Cache and app servers are up on traffic/load
[19:21:09] <se4598>	 who stole the collapsible sidebar? :) any gerrit/bug?
[19:22:03] <Reedy>	 The server kittehs
[19:22:56] <se4598>	 they brought it back, I thought it was on purpose to simplify the layout :)
[21:11:04] <legoktm>	 Is the "generic parameters" section of APISandbox not working for anyone else? https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&list=abuselog&format=json&afllimit=10