[05:58:09] Elsie: see bug 15434, comment 96. i think you commented on the wrong bug? cc springle-afk [11:14:23] heyas [11:38:59] hi, [11:39:13] anyone here with knowledge of css please? [11:39:25] need some help on the main page of Wikivoyage [11:46:40] Saqib: limited knowledge. [11:46:49] ok [11:47:02] this is the page https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Nicholasjf21/MainPage2 [11:47:08] please have a look [11:49:21] how can the white borders removed? [11:49:38] the white border that you can see atop, left and right side [11:50:56] eptalon: you saw page/ [11:55:07] Saqib: margin param? [11:55:15] hmm [11:55:20] tried with that [11:55:29] tried with margin 0, pad 0 [11:56:05] as in padding? [11:56:20] body {margin:0; padding:0; } [11:56:21] not works [11:56:51] you want to look at css? [11:56:57] codes^ [11:57:06] Saqib: tride with 0px; ? [11:57:15] no [11:57:17] let me [11:57:27] you mean body {margin:0px; padding:0px; } [11:57:29] ? [11:57:37] yup. [11:59:23] not :( [12:01:23] then I have no idea. [12:01:31] i want you to have a look at https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [12:01:39] please go to bottom [15:56:35] jeremyb: I think that's the right bug. [15:56:49] Though there are a few open Special page-related bugs that are very similar, I think. [15:57:33] yes it's right [16:02:18] * jeremyb is confused [16:02:23] also, still kinda waking up [16:04:27] Nemo_bis: https://github.com/monsur/enable-cors.org/issues/57#issuecomment-28651278 [16:05:10] jeremyb: Re: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 [16:06:12] Elsie: that i got [16:06:28] nice re TWN evangilism :) [16:07:19] Basically we set up a bunch of Special pages to update more regularly. [16:07:24] And by "we," I mean Nemo, I think. [16:07:38] But they're not staggered, leading to site issues. [16:07:47] We may need to further optimize some of them. [16:08:29] Elsie: watched; though EOL is the only project for which we translate content [16:08:45] nah, they just need not to run on the same day [16:12:56] The distinction between UI and content can be blurry. :-) [16:13:07] It was just a thought. They seem like nice enough folks. [16:13:20] Well, even staggered, some of the queries are inefficient. [16:13:38] We can use tracking categories and other lazy-loading schemes. [16:22:32] Sure; in another decade [16:22:47] Bugzilla is spacious though [16:25:09] ;-) [17:37:35] What is the value of $wgMaxArticleSize in English Wikipedia? [17:41:00] https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php Glaisher [17:41:57] Default is 2048 according to MW manual though. [17:41:59] Thanks. [20:36:26] (all solved) [22:58:01] is it possible to change how timestamps in signatures are formatted by editing a Mediawiki: message? [23:10:50] YairRand: Probably. [23:10:57] What are you trying to do? [23:11:12] Elsie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Signature [23:11:38] Translate how? [23:12:09] I figure that getting it to just include {int:january}, {int:february}, etc would be the best solution, if that's possible [23:12:25] translate so that it shows up in the user's language [23:12:51] That person can't spell internationalization. [23:13:06] I asked for clarification before spending time trying to solve the problem. [23:14:12] YairRand: I'm not sure there are many great solutions if you want it to be radically different on a per-user basis. [23:14:23] This is essentially the same problem we have with internationalization generally. [23:14:37] Though signatures are probably even more annoying, given the lack of a clear marker in them. [23:14:42] well, it was possible for Mediawiki:Signature... https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Signature [23:14:47] Basically, the answer is probably "Flow" or whatever comes after it. [23:15:16] Have you looked at the source of "Signature"? [23:15:31] I wrote it [23:15:40] Then you know what a hack it is. :-) [23:15:48] yup :) [23:16:02] You basically want to change the behavior of ~~~~~. [23:16:04] (Five tildes.) [23:16:17] Because ~~~~ (four) is the combination of ~~~ (three) and ~~~~~ (five). [23:16:18] sounds about right [23:16:20] It's a brilliant system. [23:16:27] For obscure definitions of brilliant. [23:16:40] You know someone actually proposed ~~~~~~ (six). [23:16:45] And maybe even two or seven. [23:16:49] Craziness. [23:17:14] If we ever stop storing the timestamp as unidentifiable text, we can probably translate it on a per-user basis. [23:17:29] But for now... not sure you have many options. [23:17:45] oh well. thanks. [23:17:56] Commons hasn't solved this problem, right? [23:17:58] "Solved." [23:18:22] commons hasn't solved many of the i18n issues, even the ones that have been solved in WD [23:18:28] MZMcBride (talk) 23:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC) [23:18:49] Right, so the talk message gets wrapped in that class and then replaced with JavaScript, I think. [23:18:53] The date is left alone. [23:18:59] not a good system [23:19:01] YairRand: Is there a bug in Bugzilla? [23:19:07] dunno [23:19:15] You should find out. [23:19:20] This is vaguely solvable. [23:19:26] * YairRand searches [23:19:36] We could support using an existing MediaWiki message instead of ~~~~~. [23:19:47] Like have a fallback system or whatever. [23:19:54] It'd be awful, but better than the current situation. [23:20:51] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25476 [23:21:21] verdy p... [23:53:31] YairRand: Thanks, commented. [23:58:02] Who knew, I'm cc'ed to it