[08:55:47] Could someone review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94598/ [10:25:06] Could someone review this? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94598/ [13:52:38] Anyone active [13:55:06] !ask [13:55:07] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [13:56:33] How to I edit wikipedia using javascript [13:56:42] on monobook.js [13:57:19] !ask [13:57:20] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [13:57:26] !answer [13:57:26] 42 [13:57:34] !helpme [13:57:34] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. 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[15:08:17] omg lag [18:23:06] I'm having extremely slow upload.wikimedia.org [18:23:22] 15 KB/s download from toolserver [18:23:42] also: [18:23:43] Resolving upload.wikimedia.org... 2620:0:861:ed1a::b, 208.80.154.235 [18:23:43] Connecting to upload.wikimedia.org|2620:0:861:ed1a::b|:443... connected. [18:23:43] ERROR: certificate common name “*.wikipedia.org” doesn’t match requested host name “upload.wikimedia.org”. [18:23:46] To connect to upload.wikimedia.org insecurely, use ‘--no-check-certificate’. [18:34:20] now normal at home but not toolserver [18:35:53] toolserver uses dns overrides [18:36:00] that might be an issues here [18:36:03] * issue [18:36:27] Hi. [18:43:48] Yep, TS requests go to EQIAD [18:44:08] (hi) [18:45:28] something weird going on here too https://graphite.wikimedia.org/render/?title=HTTP%205xx%20Responses%20-8hours&from=-8hours&width=1024&height=500&until=now&areaMode=none&hideLegend=false&lineWidth=2&lineMode=connected&target=color(cactiStyle(alias(reqstats.500,%22500%20resp/min%22)),%22red%22)&target=color(cactiStyle(alias(reqstats.5xx,%225xx%20resp/min%22)),%22blue%22) [18:45:58] poolcounter seems out for lunch https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/poolcounter/ [18:47:00] ok, I've definitely no idea what's going on :) [18:53:46] Do thumbs look smaller today? e.g. https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neiti_Aika has 180px [18:58:03] wow, that is a new message for me, 'the servers are overloaded' [18:58:50] media servers are indeed 120 % load since a few months ;) [18:58:58] but upload seems to be struggling [19:00:13] this was a big page with a lot of templates [19:00:18] monumentlist [19:00:48] curiously enough, till a moment ago https://ganglia.wikimedia.org "Image scalers eqiad" section showed me a serious network drop around 18 UTC, disagreeing with their cluster view which said nothing changed [19:02:35] the page is listed here: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Pagina%27s_waarvoor_de_maximale_transclusiegrootte_is_overschreden which means it is simply to big [19:30:10] I can't find a single thumb at correct size [19:42:26] lol that was just old preferences on wikis I rarely visit, I forgot we didn't update them via script [20:27:10] quick question chaps (James_F in particular) - mis attributed imports - will they be resolved when full SUL including forced renaming, kicks in ? [20:33:46] popping in briefly to ban that flooder [20:49:32] NotASpy: define resolved? [20:56:47] See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rolls-Royce_Silver_Dawn&oldid=260982276 and https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rolls-Royce_Silver_Dawn&diff=prev&oldid=64057791 [20:57:26] NotASpy: afaik no, that is based on the users ID number in the db, and I don't believe we are renumbering them [20:58:31] OK - so my edit (made at en.wp) will remain assigned permanently to Nick at de.wp (who isn't me). [20:59:07] it will follow Nick at de.wp even after he's forcibly renamed to his new username, yeah ? [20:59:58] unless our renaming system changes their userid # which I don't think it does [21:01:57] that was my understanding of it, but someone suggested import issues might be resolved. I didn't see how it could be, but I thought I'd ask. [21:02:33] NotASpy: well, future import issues will be. [21:02:43] NotASpy: past, not so much [21:03:28] in saying that, I thought edits were attributed to userid# and not user name, as I'm reasonably interested to know how my en.wp edit has been attributed to an identical username and not the identical userid# on de.wp [21:04:02] oh wait yeah, it matches username then goes to that id or something [21:04:17] its long timey wimey stuff [21:04:23] * p858snake|l looks at apergos [21:05:30] ah right, so it would attribute an edit to #123 --> Username then after importing onto another project, it finds Username and then attributes to the userid that could be #456. Makes sense. [21:06:35] since users don't go for the same userid, just the same username, that's fair enough. [21:08:33] * apergos is invisible at 11 pm on a sunday night (sorry) [21:09:03] in fact imports go by username, not by id, that is correct [21:11:06] cheers, as I say, makes sense now and will make perfect sense after SUL is all sorted finally. [21:12:21] someday :-) [21:12:38] * apergos goes back to full invisibility... see folks tomorrow [22:00:28] hello [22:00:37] anyone working in tampa? [22:00:56] toolserver has problems with replication [22:01:08] i still dont know how to debug [22:01:21] ask in #wikimedia-toolserver [22:01:56] lol Jasper_Deng - she's from there [22:02:52] nosy79: I'm really even less here than usual, but is amaranth unavailable or is something else going on? [22:03:06] amaranth is fine [22:03:09] ok [22:03:19] what db would it be replicating from? [22:03:33] we are building tunnel from amaranth to db servers and they seem to work [22:03:42] yet i dont get any db connection [22:04:14] is there any maintenance anywhere? [22:04:31] ill try to debug the connection from amaranth to the db servers [22:17:11] apergos: sorry did not read your question [22:17:25] db63 for example - should be for s1 [22:19:42] apergos: should i be able to ping from amaranth to db63? [22:20:09] ah mysql is answering [22:20:17] so it must be our problem [22:20:54] I don't see why not (ping) [22:20:58] same dc, nothing special [22:21:13] there is nothing special happening with that db that I can see [22:21:25] no maintenance, no nothing [22:23:54] apergos: thanks [22:27:57] any tech around? [22:28:42] !ask | akoopal [22:28:42] akoopal: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [22:28:48] on https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Lier I keep getting an error there is a lock [22:28:59] MatmaRex: I was already typing :-) [22:29:15] I have a feeling there is some stale lock or something? [22:29:28] it is a large page with a lot of templates, but ... [22:30:06] if I hit edit and ask for a preview it more or less works [22:31:28] akoopal: ow, that's a huge page [22:31:38] MatmaRex: yes [22:31:49] it needs to be splitted [22:32:07] because of transclusion size [22:32:40] akoopal: yeah. but i'm not sure what the problem is? does the page not save or something? [22:32:40] but still, keeping getting the lock-message doesn't make sense [22:32:48] or does it work for you? [22:33:01] I get: [22:33:05] De servers zijn op het moment helaas overbelast. [22:33:05] Te veel gebruikers proberen deze pagina te bekijken. Wacht even voordat u opnieuw toegang probeert te krijgen tot deze pagina. [22:33:08] De maximaal te wachten tijd voor het wachten op een lock is verstreken [22:33:11] maybe that is a new way of dealing with it? [22:33:44] akoopal: when do you get that error? [22:33:49] akoopal: when viewing it? it loaded for me [22:33:58] MatmaRex: when viewing [22:34:05] are you in the US? [22:34:14] europe, poland [22:34:41] hmm, then you likely use the same cache complex in amsterdam [22:34:51] yeah [22:35:07] akoopal, that page hits parser limits [22:35:08] akoopal: can you make a screenshot? is that the green-ish "wikimedia error" page? [22:35:11] I get a pink section with text [22:35:19] not green, pink [22:35:24] MaxSem: yeah, I know [22:35:27] rose [22:35:34] [22:35:45] Romaine: screenshot please, because i don't see anything like this :) [22:35:47] no screenshot needed [22:35:53] MaxSem: no [22:36:02] MaxSem: [22:36:03] [23:33] I get: [22:36:03] [23:33] De servers zijn op het moment helaas overbelast. [22:36:04] [23:33] Te veel gebruikers proberen deze pagina te bekijken. Wacht even voordat u opnieuw toegang probeert te krijgen tot deze pagina. [22:36:23] "The servers are currently overloaded." [22:36:35] MatmaRex, what do you expect to see? [22:36:40] MaxSem: the page [22:36:52] MaxSem: Romaine and akoopal seems to be saying they see something else [22:36:54] on that screenshot [22:36:55] "Too much users try to watch this page. Wait a moment until you try to view this page again."v [22:37:09] ^^ roughly translated text [22:37:15] MaxSem: i am hoping to get a vague idea of where that might be coming from [22:37:18] PoolCounter? [22:38:04] MaxSem: last line says 'maximum time to get a lock expired' [22:38:07] roughly [22:38:14] yeah [22:38:29] or this is a locally customized [22:38:30] ? [22:38:43] message that was intended to say smth else?:) [22:40:06] there is no local message with this text [22:40:35] text of this message is shown: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:View-pool-error/nl [22:40:52] English equivalent: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:View-pool-error/en [22:41:57] MatmaRex: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37751954@N07/10787455563/ [22:42:44] aha, PoolCounter indeed [22:42:50] mw1040 nlwiki: 33.17 Lijst_van_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Lier [22:43:04] and this is with Lua ans stuff... [22:44:34] Romaine: that is the error, but the last line seems to be $1, so transfered to it :-) [22:45:05] and you're using {{int:}} in those templates! poor cache variance [22:45:14] akoopal: looks unpleasant. i don't think i'll be able to help you, but maybe MaxSem will :) [22:45:28] that is this message: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Pool-timeout/nl [22:46:16] ah, not {{int:}} apparently [22:46:20] MaxSem: all the monumentlists work similair I am affraid [22:46:34] you need to split them [22:47:10] that is known, and that will also solve this error? [22:47:24] because I find it strange it works for some [22:48:00] I had a feeling a stale lock hanging out somewhere and not cleaned up [22:48:30] but I don't know the wikie internals [22:49:18] screenshot still needed? [22:49:22] no [22:49:54] ok, removed again [22:56:52] hmm, Lijst_van_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Brugge/U-Z appears even more fucked up [22:57:07] wow, a null-edit gives me a gateway time-out [22:57:31] and Lijst_van_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Gent/deel_6 is just as heavy as Lier one [22:58:28] hmm, the brugge one loads for me [22:58:40] doesn't seem to be over the transclusion-size [22:59:31] it has 2599 geo tags [23:02:16] hmmm [23:03:22] MaxSem: how can it have that much? [23:03:50] I only count 908 tablerows [23:04:33] that's what my geo_tags queries say [23:04:48] or it's a data inconsistency? [23:06:28] there is a geotag for each row, but there are really not that much it seems [23:06:34] so perhaps [23:07:47] ehm [23:07:59] did a null edit - now ~1700 [23:08:10] I need to make another pass on GeoData [23:08:27] hmmm [23:09:10] if you have a suggestion to make these templates more efficient ... [23:12:25] but it's bedtime for me I am affraid, thanks for the help so far [23:14:51] akoopal, basically, there's no way you can make these templates significantly better [23:14:57] the page is just too huge [23:17:35] MaxSem: ok, splittime, which I more or less already knew, thanks and goodnight [23:37:39] is there a place where standard classes are set in MediaWiki? [23:38:14] Romaine: "standard classes"? [23:38:30] like class="errorbox" [23:38:43] ah. yes, there are actually a few such places [23:39:29] !master skins/common/shared.css [23:39:30] https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/master/skins%2fcommon%2fshared.css [23:39:49] this is where errorbox is defined, there are some other CSS files in this directory defining some other stuff too [23:40:00] Romaine: ^ [23:40:15] ok thanks [23:41:44] Hey MatmaRex, know any good dark mediawiki skins? [23:43:25] Krenair: good MediaWiki skins? that's a contradiction [23:43:38] Krenair: i don't know any mediawiki skins apart from the core ones :) [23:43:50] modern's dark…ish, i guess. :P [23:43:52] heh, same, okay. [23:44:01] (someone called Sway on EsperNet was asking)