[10:18:51] I want to apply for this year OPW but I am unable to follow what project idea we need to submit in the beginning. [10:19:33] I mean do we need to begin from scrap or something like that [10:22:10] please annyone help me [10:22:35] shrees: you're approaching the right channel :) which would be #mediawiki or #wikimedia-dev [10:23:05] you can ask on the program's talk page, or – if you need chat – ping qgil on one of those two channels when he's around [10:23:19] (i.e. not in the middle of SF night) [10:24:21] is it night there??? [10:25:32] Hi Yuvi are you an Indian? [13:38:46] Hi, Is Mr.Dereckson here? [13:42:04] Hi, Is Mr. Dereckson here? [14:27:54] nl.wikipedia was down just a minute ago [14:28:03] anybody know why? [14:38:03] maybe because of !log dist-upgrade && reboot on amssq47..62 [14:38:13] or some more lvs problems? [14:39:24] wow that's too technical for me :P what's lvs [14:39:55] i do know that the loadingtime of pages (at least in my case) in longer lately lot of server pressure or so? [14:41:43] lately? [14:43:49] well since the middle of october [17:13:32] Hoping this is the right place to report this issue: I'm currently being blocked by an autoblock applied to an IP address that belongs to Wikimedia itself. Which seems to suggest something has gone wrong? [17:13:54] huh. [17:13:56] Reedy: ^ [17:14:10] htonl: What IP is that? [17:14:21] htonl: Where in the world are you? [17:14:31] Reedy: 2620:0:862:1:a6ba:dbff:fe38:fc71 [17:14:36] Reedy: Cape Town, South Africa [17:15:03] mark: ^^^ [17:15:06] text varnish? [17:15:29] oh fuck [17:15:35] :) [17:15:39] ipv6, right [17:15:46] let me just transfer to ipv4 real quick [17:18:25] should be better now [17:18:37] htonl: ^ [17:19:57] yup, working now [17:20:48] thanks [17:42:56] mark: you might want to reply to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Wikimedia_Foundation_IP_addresses_causing_autoblocks [17:45:29] but I don't know how this wikitext thing works [17:49:20] * mark replied [18:11:41] mark: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56681 same thing? [18:11:45] (just reported) [18:17:43] marrrrk. [18:30:23] MatmaRex: yes, that should be the same issue. as far as I know that's fixed now, if not... that's news [18:31:44] mark: wanna close the bug with your authority? ;) [18:31:59] (i actually just commented on it before you replied here) [18:33:10] i added a comment [18:35:45] thanks [18:38:20] hi [18:38:48] somebody know a easy way to get the images uploaded for a user [18:39:01] a list of image names [18:39:18] from mediawiki api [18:39:31] or another easy way [18:40:27] I could parser Special:ListFiles, but I think that this is not a best practice [19:03:59] have we (mediawiki/WMF devs, no distinction) ever use a "needs-test" type reminder/bug keyword? I've seen a bunch of bugs come across with a "this would really be good to test in the future" off hand comment, but the follow through.... [19:05:42] greg-g: there is "need-unittest" [19:05:48] I guess we do have need-[integration|parser|unit]-test keywords in BZ [19:05:52] :) [19:06:07] aude: I wonder how actively they're used/followed through on... [19:06:12] greg-g: nobody ever looks at RESOLVED bugs, unless possibly if they're marked as needing backporting [19:06:13] * greg-g does some searches [19:06:28] i had no idea there was such keyword until now [19:10:56] http://ur1.ca/fzsfm -- all bugs (resolved or otherwise) that have a need-[integration|parser|unit]-test keyword in BZ products I care about. [19:10:59] aside from the one I just did, there's 2 there ;) [19:11:29] <^demon> Well what's the search of all bugs that have ever had the keyword? [19:11:39] <^demon> Might be more that got it then lost it when said test was written. [19:11:39] no [19:11:43] yeah [19:12:05] we only need to write two tests! [19:12:51] I see no way of seeing all bugs that ever had one of those keywords :/ [19:12:55] <^demon> greg-g: Just two? Let's call it a day. We can do those tomorrow. [19:13:03] ^demon: word, pack up [19:13:23] MatmaRex: wikidata team uses resolved and looks at them [19:13:43] yeah, they VERIFY fixes, smart them [19:14:00] aude: "nobody ever looks at RESOLVED bugs _i am ccd on_, unless possibly if they're marked as needing backporting" ;) [19:14:31] no andre, I want andre [19:14:37] heh [19:15:09] <^demon> Keywords are quite possibly the worst thing in BZ. [19:15:22] <^demon> How on earth are they supposed to be useful if you can't search them usefully? [19:15:36] "can't search them usefully"? [19:15:47] <^demon> Search by change history [19:16:17] <^demon> You can see if a bug a specific keyword *now*, but there's no way to search the history afaict. [19:16:56] you can? [19:17:00] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?f1=keywords&list_id=247935&o1=changedafter&resolution=---&resolution=LATER&resolution=DUPLICATE&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=assigned_to&v1=2013-11-01&product=MediaWiki&product=MediaWiki%20extensions&product=Wikimedia [19:17:05] (i wonder if that link will work) [19:17:25] you'd probably have to combine that with some other operators to search for a specific keyword [19:17:38] but it can be done to some degree of accuracy, i guess [19:17:57] MatmaRex: make that a shorturl, it broke irssi+gnome-terminal [19:18:04] plz :) [19:18:10] also, keywords are supposed to be valid for the lifetime of a bug, i think [19:18:17] greg-g: http://u.42.pl/2PcV [19:18:28] then all of those need-*-test ones are invalid keywords [19:18:46] bah, that shortened one doesn't work for me now [19:19:09] anyway. i used the "Custom Search" at the bottom, "Keywords" "changed after" "2013-11-01" [19:19:30] <^demon> Ah, got it. [19:19:37] there's also "changed from", "to" and "by" there [19:19:45] <^demon> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=247941&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=keywords&chfieldfrom=2010-06-20&chfieldvalue=testme - all bugs with "testme" added after 2010-06-20 [19:19:58] ^demon: shorturl plz, irssi+gnome-terminal suck right now :/ [19:20:17] * greg-g wants to switch to quassel at some point [19:20:18] <^demon> http://is.gd/Kv1miF [19:20:29] ^demon: that may or may not include keywods like "easy, testme", not sure how bugzilla handles this [19:20:39] <^demon> Yeah, not sure how good it is :) [19:20:40] as in, a bug that has two or more heywords on it [19:21:00] greg-g: most of our keywords are invalid by that definition, yes [19:21:13] greg-g: mozilla themselves seem to use flags for such things in most cases [19:21:19] yeah [19:21:21] grah [19:21:25] (we only use flags for backporting requests, and rarely too) [19:21:29] yeah [19:21:40] * greg-g walks away for a second to think [20:46:04] Hey. I expressed an interest in learning Python and legoktm recommended Non-Programmer's Tutorial for Python 2.6 over at Wikibooks. Is there a reason to learn 2 instead of 3? (I'm learning this pretty much so that I can learn to write code that would be useful on Wikidata) [21:08:23] Sven_Manguard: 2 has more libraries atm, 3 is the future, but stuff like pywikibot and wikitools are written in 2. [21:08:38] thanks. So 2 it is [21:09:57] Soo... Python 2.7.5 Windows Installer or Python 2.7.5 Windows X86-64 Installer [21:11:07] I have an Intel Core i7-2670QM CPU [21:11:14] on a 64 bit OS [21:11:30] and have no idea what X86-64 means [21:13:43] on 64bit windows you can install the 64bit and or the 32bit [21:13:57] does it matter which one I choose? [21:16:28] * Sven_Manguard downloading the regular one [21:25:22] Python finishes installing >>> Lionel Messi scores [21:25:24] cool [21:38:59] Mediawiki RFC review meeting in 20 minutes in #wikimedia-meetbot. Details at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2013-11-06. Previous meeting notes at http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/RFC%20review