[00:21:30] <djr013>	 I created a page on test.wikipedia.org to test the interaction between the poem extension and noinclude. https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipage_poem_test
[00:21:59] <djr013>	 I'll probably file a bug on the extension unless I can figure out a solution.
[01:38:47] <jeremyb>	 mutante: Thehelpfulone: fyi, https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lists.wikimedia.org&diff=86096&oldid=86095 ; is that confusing? i'm thinking it would be good to get good generic, wiki-wide support for code blocks with line numbers. and the line numbers would clarify things.
[01:38:57] <jeremyb>	 does any wiki have that already? mediawikiwiki?
[05:04:09] <djr013>	 I submitted the bug. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55825 Thanks all who helped look into this.
[06:25:11] <Nemo_bis>	 Elsie: the point where you stopped null editing is very clear in the graph, isn't it? ;) https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/graph.php?r=year&z=xlarge&c=Miscellaneous+pmtpa&h=hume.wikimedia.org&v=823574&m=Global_JobQueue_length&jr=&js=
[12:52:20] <Elsie>	 Nemo_bis: I don't think so.
[12:54:00] <Nemo_bis>	 :)
[12:54:04] <Nemo_bis>	 Disbeliever
[13:17:34] <Elsie>	 Nemo_bis: I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
[13:17:47] <RD>	 Guess.
[13:18:15] <Elsie>	 The rate started a very sharp decline around October 2.
[13:18:41] <Elsie>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86745/ was merged on October 2.
[13:34:35] <Nemo_bis>	 Elsie: AFAIK irony != trolling
[13:38:36] <Nemo_bis>	 Of course, however, that doesn't mean that a person very firm on their opinions would not be able to claim that the graph is just showing with some days of delay the decrease caused by your non-null editing, just as it showed an increase 30 days in advance of its beginning.
[13:39:05] <Elsie>	 :-)
[13:39:08] <Elsie>	 Sorry, it's early.
[13:39:15] <Elsie>	 And I'm a bit defensive on the subject.
[13:39:57] <Nemo_bis>	 Aww, don't be.
[14:04:24] <Base>	 @seen Varnent
[14:04:24] <wm-bot>	 Base: Last time I saw Varnent they were quitting the network with reason: Ping timeout: 264 seconds N/A at 10/5/2013 9:38:30 AM (12d4h25m54s ago)
[14:06:31] <hashar>	 hey the job queue is getting better finally https://tinyurl.com/n8alexo
[14:08:44] <hashar>	 !jenkins mwext-Wikibase-server-tests
[14:08:44] <wm-bot>	 https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests
[14:36:11] <Krenair>	 <Base> [6ce8704a] 2013-10-17 14:17:17: Fatal exception of type MWException
[14:36:11] <Krenair>	 <Base> [e57b8c13] 2013-10-17 14:17:29: Fatal exception of type MWException
[14:36:49] <Krenair>	 (metawiki)
[14:36:51] <Krenair>	 Can someone pull one of these from the logs? (Reedy maybe?)
[14:38:37] <Base>	 [1d52b5fa] 2013-10-17 14:38:24: Fatal exception of type MWException
[14:38:37] <Base>	 is while editing
[14:38:48] <Base>	 (saving i mean)
[15:11:14] <ori-l>	 Base: it's the <translate> thing
[15:20:35] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: i know this problem
[15:20:38] <greg-g>	 for those who may be curious, it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55808
[15:20:44] <Steinsplitter>	 i hav reported in on tech som weeks ago
[15:54:05] <Base>	 how can i override it?
[16:06:55] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: not possible. broken. you need remove the translation from the system
[16:07:05] <Steinsplitter>	 and mark it again for translation :/
[16:12:12] <Base>	 omg
[16:12:19] <Base>	 then i'll do nothing
[16:12:30] <Base>	 as i'm too lazy to do smth like that
[16:17:28] <mutante>	 jeremyb: re: formatting of code blocks.. i'd expect it to be a job for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[16:17:50] <jeremyb>	 mutante: sure. but <pre> is horrible
[16:18:09] <jeremyb>	 does syntaxhighlight support exim or have an option to do no highlighting?
[16:18:25] <Steinsplitter>	 ( mutante: du bist ja von de \O/ - moin )
[16:19:40] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: witch page?
[16:20:18] <mutante>	 jeremyb: even though GeSHi is pretty generic already i don't see exim filters as a particular supported language .. sidebar on http://qbnz.com/highlighter/
[16:20:25] <mutante>	 Steinsplitter: moin:)
[16:21:43] <Base>	 Steinsplitter: take a look on -stews
[16:22:43] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: i see nothing, i hav joint ~30m ago
[16:24:03] <Steinsplitter>	 *e
[16:26:49] <Base>	 Steinsplitter: ah it was 1m before you joined :D
[16:27:01] <Steinsplitter>	 :O
[16:27:06] <Base>	 17:33:05 - Base: Krenair: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
[16:27:06] <Base>	 17:34:15 - Base: the ta tagged it owful so i want to retag it but i even cant preview to see if i didnt brake it. perhaps i did smth wrong but i need to use thirdparty editor to check tags :(
[16:27:09] <Reedy>	 lol
[16:27:37] <Base>	 and
[16:27:37] <Base>	 17:35:56 - Steinsplitter [~Thunderbi@wikimedia/Steinsplitter] увійшов до кімнати.
[16:28:15] <Steinsplitter>	 k :-)
[16:29:20] <PinkAmpersand>	 Reedy: hey, would it be possible to enable the templateeditor right on testwiki? I want to test something out with the system messages
[16:29:29] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: + <languages/> is missing?
[16:29:40] <Base>	 Steinsplitter: in my version no
[16:30:10] <Krenair>	 PinkAmpersand, templateeditor right?
[16:30:24] <PinkAmpersand>	 Krenair: [[WP:TPE]]
[16:30:53] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference&diff=6074414&oldid=6047957 O_O
[16:30:58] <Base>	 im not sure if i didnt do smth like <translate><translate></translate>
[16:30:59] <Base>	 there or
[16:30:59] <Base>	 <translate/><translate></translate>
[16:30:59] <Base>	 but saving actually shall show me if i made such an mistake
[16:31:08] <Krenair>	 PinkAmpersand, that's a weird group.
[16:31:17] <Base>	 Steinsplitter: in *my* version
[16:31:24] <Base>	 - the one that i cant save
[16:31:26] <legoktm>	 PinkAmpersand: what do you want to test?
[16:31:35] <PinkAmpersand>	 {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}}
[16:31:49] <PinkAmpersand>	 specifically for [[MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning]]
[16:32:11] <Steinsplitter>	 Base: possible
[16:32:31] <PinkAmpersand>	 and it just seems like a good idea to have it on test in general, since it's a rather bold thing we're doing on en
[16:38:31] <legoktm>	 PinkAmpersand: well, if you want me to test it on enwiki i can do that
[16:38:57] <PinkAmpersand>	 I'll just post the request on talk. You can try it out then and tell me if it works :)
[16:40:21] <Base>	 Steinsplitter: definitely :P
[16:43:05] <Base>	 but i cant save after your edits too(
[16:52:41] <greg-g>	 manybubbles: cawiki is ES primary already, right?
[17:55:47] <manybubbles>	 greg-g: right - sorry I was away :)
[17:56:32] <greg-g>	 manybubbles: no worries :)
[17:57:01] <manybubbles>	 greg-g: is the reason you ask further in my scrollback buffer?
[17:57:49] <greg-g>	 manybubbles: nope, just updating the Search/Timeline page post mark's email
[17:57:58] <manybubbles>	 oh!  thanks!
[17:58:55] <greg-g>	 {{done}}
[22:20:01] <marktraceur>	 I have reports of slowness on enwiki and Commons when saving or previewing from -commons
[22:20:07] <marktraceur>	 Related to today's deploy?
[22:20:59] <marktraceur>	 Reedy, greg-g ^^
[22:21:43] <Reedy>	 enwiki was possibly
[22:21:46] <Reedy>	 Commons not so much
[22:21:51] <marktraceur>	 Hm
[22:22:01] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: Nothing backported?
[22:22:05] <Reedy>	 Nope
[22:22:41] <marktraceur>	 Well, interesting
[22:30:40] <greg-g>	 huh
[22:31:29] <greg-g>	 marktraceur: can you verify? links on VPT or something?
[22:35:07] <greg-g>	 Reedy: huh, what'd I do when I copy/pasted today MW Core meeting notes to the wiki? [b63e000e] 2013-10-17 22:34:40: Fatal exception of type MWException
[22:35:26] <greg-g>	 mw.org, just incase it isn't clear
[22:36:33] <greg-g>	 Reedy: the content I'm trying to save: http://paste.debian.net/59034/
[22:37:25] <MaxSem>	 greg-g, what's the exception id?
[22:37:40] <greg-g>	 b63e000e
[22:38:53] <kaldari>	 where does the SQL schema for core live?
[22:39:04] <Reedy>	 maintenance/tables.sql
[22:39:22] <Reedy>	 2013-10-17 22:34:40 mw1161 mediawikiwiki: [b63e000e] /w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_MediaWiki_Core_Team/checkin-20131017&action=submit   Exception from line 187 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf21/extensions/Translate/TranslateHooks.php: A <translate> reached the parser. This should not happen
[22:39:34] <greg-g>	 lol
[22:39:43] <kaldari>	 Reedy: thanks
[22:39:46] <greg-g>	 still loling
[22:40:57] <greg-g>	 alright, surrounded by <nowiki>s
[22:41:16] <greg-g>	 'tis a crappy (lack of) error, that
[22:48:03] <marktraceur>	 greg-g: No, it was on #wikimedia-commons
[22:48:53] * greg-g  is not there

[22:49:09] <greg-g>	 marktraceur: oh, I see, you said "from -commons"
[22:50:24] <marktraceur>	 Yup
[22:54:32] <paravoid>	 so
[22:54:37] <paravoid>	 I got a spam message
[22:54:48] <paravoid>	 oh wait
[22:54:55] <paravoid>	 wrong channel :)
[22:55:32] <hashar>	 paravoid: since you are awake, a new jenkins version is out :-]   I looked at the change log, nothing urgent :)
[22:56:03] <hashar>	 paravoid: feel free to get the 1.509.4 in our apt and I will upgrade Jenkins on Monday.