[01:40:21] hi guys. i don't know if this is worth reporting, but i have a friend who sees perl errors on the Timeline of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_%28band%29#Timeline although I have never seen one. [01:40:34] Timeline error. Command line was: '/usr/bin/perl' '/usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf20/extensions/timeline/EasyTimeline.pl' -i '/tmp/timeline_87cc15a6964a-1' -m -P '/usr/bin/ploticus' -T '/tmp' -A '/wiki/$1' -f 'FreeSans' [01:40:49] I see it too :/ [01:40:52] Hi dtm. [01:40:56] Yes, please report it. [01:40:58] oh ok. hi Elsie [01:41:00] https://bugs.wikimedia.org [01:41:10] That... shouldn't happen. :-) [01:41:31] does anyone else not see it? [01:41:48] Elsie: any idea why there would be items in the job table that dont get run? [01:41:57] dtm: I fixed it [01:42:03] some vandalism I guess [01:42:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nirvana_%28band%29&diff=577070462&oldid=576910400 [01:42:14] legoktm: oh? wut. why didn't i see it? [01:42:25] Betacommand: What kind of jobs? Pastebin what you're seeing? [01:42:40] maybe you got a cached version of the page? idk [01:42:41] RESOLVED VANDALISM [01:42:56] legoktm: i haven't seen that page, perhaps ever [01:43:19] Elsie: I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR [01:45:22] Elsie: http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/job.pdf [01:46:26] Did you run runJobs.php? [01:46:32] job_namespace is awfully high. [01:46:34] Elsie: yeah [01:46:42] Elsie: custom namespace [01:47:12] I think 500 is the recommended starting point for those [01:47:13] Indeed. [01:47:23] Indeed at it being a custom namespace. [01:47:33] 100 was the recommendation for custom namespaces. [01:47:37] Not sure what it is these days. [01:48:41] Elsie: ive run runjobs.php several times [01:49:56] Elsie: any ideas? [01:50:14] You're cursed. [05:25:19] I asked in #wikipedia and was directed here ... on the page https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%99%E6%AD%A3%E6%AD%A3#English I'm getting this error (but only after I log in) « PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf20/includes/context/RequestContext.php line 93: Argument 1 passed to RequestContext::setTitle() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf20/extensions/ [05:26:18] every time? [05:26:31] Seems repeatable, yes [05:26:51] I should point out, I'm logging in on another portal (English wikipedia) [05:26:54] kurahaupo: is that the end of the error message? [05:26:57] it seems cut off [05:27:09] oh, it's an ori [05:27:19] that's all that's visible to me, hang on I'll show-source [05:27:50] yup, that's the whole message in the HTML source [05:28:06] * ori-l looks in the logs [05:28:08] hrmmm, works every time for me. [05:28:20] but of course i have no edits [05:28:41] kurahaupo: we're looking at a deleted page, right? [05:28:59] I started by loading the page, then switched to another tab where I had an English page open, then logged in on the English page, then reloaded the Chinese one [05:29:10] I can't read chinese, so I can't really tell [05:29:25] uhuh [05:29:43] i don't get an error with uselang=zh [05:29:46] either [05:29:53] i just can't read it [05:30:16] I followed the link from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-English-based_programming_languages, section "Based on non-English languages, 5th entry [05:30:38] (between ARLOGO and Changjo) [05:31:09] The link is (was) blue rather than red, so I assume the page exists [05:33:25] Just to complicate matters, I'm seeing errors in French (due to my browser preferences) [05:36:02] it's coming from AbuseFilter, which is taking ages to clone on my slow connection [05:36:10] ah, there's a CN running for fr [05:36:17] so i just got a fr banner on cnwiki [05:36:20] err, zhwiki* [05:36:29] :P [05:36:48] wait, what? is that supposed to happen? [05:37:00] depends how it's set [05:37:08] i'll check what it's set to [05:39:20] apologies, I'm about to lose internet access; thanks for looking into this for me [05:39:42] jeremyb: would you like me to privmsg you my contact details in case you need to ask me to check anything else? [05:39:56] or ori-l ? [05:41:15] hrmmm [05:41:19] when will you be back? [05:41:51] i guess the only other thing i can think of to ask is if you log in with a fresh cookie jar (another browser maybe) does it happen there [05:42:15] kurahaupo: you could /msg to either of us if you like. [05:42:43] ok [05:42:43] kurahaupo: do you have email? or talk page? [05:44:28] bye for now [05:48:20] jeremyb: tried another browser, same result [05:48:47] oh, cool, didn't have to wait for morning :) [05:58:15] i *think* the french on zhwiki thing is normal [05:58:39] looked at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalAllocation?project=wikipedia&language=fr&country=US&filterDate=2013-10-14&filterDate_timestamp=20131014000000&filter[hour]=05&filter[min]=38 and a couple other places but can't be certain [06:09:02] Hi, I'm back; sorry about that. I'm looking into the fatal, still. [06:16:25] well, here it is: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55435 [06:22:16] ori-l: does it make sense for this to happen to him and not me? [06:22:21] even if i uselang=fr [06:23:13] i have no idea, there are multiple layers of kludge [06:24:35] ok :) [11:42:37] bits acting up again? [11:44:07] what are you seeing ? [11:45:56] ignore me, it must be me [17:24:52] Hola, necesito que me ayuden por favor con la instalación de VisualEditor y Parsoid, busqué en www.mediawiki.org pero no obtuve resultados satisfactorios. [17:25:02] Lo estoy haciendo en win server 2008 r2 , y las instrucciones solo son para linux/unix based systems. [17:25:19] Is there anybody who can help me with the visualEditor extension and its connection to Parsoid? i already went to mediawiki help, but i didn't find answrers [17:25:21] thank you [17:30:17] Hi. [17:30:25] NewbieAdmin: You can try #mediawiki-visualeditor. [17:30:32] Or #mediawiki. [17:30:36] What's the issue you're having? [17:33:39] when tryinh to edit (not edit source) , the website responds : bad badrequest error 404 [17:37:54] and then "do you want to retry?" [17:38:21] and when i see the console in node.js appears the same error "404" [17:38:57] NewbieAdmin: first of all, are you running a production wiki or just a development instance? [17:39:22] i'm running the alpha version 1.23 [17:39:32] in a windows 2008 server r2 [17:39:45] ashley's answer is basically correct; off the top of my head I don't think there's a hard *nix dependency but the fact that it's not being actively developed for Windows and that the whole setup is new / experimental means that it will likely be difficult to get it to work [17:40:06] right, but is this wiki something multiple users use, or just something you set up to check out mediawiki? [18:05:25] Krinkle|detached: I see that your TSUsers has a todo about fetching license information from LDAP. However, more users (= almost all) have LDAP info than .about.me, so the table should be expanded? If I just want to publish a list of licenses, is it easier in your tool or outside it [18:14:29] > Hello. I always get a 504 Gateway Error when I access any of Wikipedia's pages using ${ipaddr} [18:14:33] > -- that's my IP address. But when I use another IP address, I can access Wiki just fine. [18:16:29] Stop breaking things jeremyb [18:19:38] Reedy: NO U [18:23:26] Reedy: any ideas about that? 504 could be transparent proxy from a carrier [18:23:31] * jeremyb whoises the IP [18:24:03] philippines [19:04:33] jeremyb: how is the IP address changed, i.e. how does it not affect anything else? [19:04:45] Elsie: http://store.archive.org/ on Wordpress, probably easier to localise? [19:05:47] hi [19:05:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Current_issues&lqt_method=talkpage_history is giving me an error [19:06:04] Request: GET http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Current_issues&lqt_method=talkpage_history, from 10.64.32.107 via cp1055 cp1055 ([10.64.32.107]:3128), Varnish XID 2432130768 Forwarded for: 153.18.25.209, 10.64.32.107 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:04:50 GMT [19:06:21] Nemo_bis: huh? [19:06:59] belghdjk: more than once? [19:07:02] belghdjk: it may be related to a corrupt thread currently contained in the page [19:07:17] Nemo_bis: worked for me twice [19:07:26] jeremyb: yeah, i tried twice and both times it didnt work [19:07:43] yep [19:07:46] worked on the fifth try [19:07:47] weird [19:08:32] belghdjk: what language? [19:08:47] uhh english? i'm logged out right now [19:08:56] oh [20:05:20] MatmaRex: and then one wonders why en.wiki has so many categories https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Steiner&curid=826281&diff=576416674&oldid=573138642 [20:06:16] Nemo_bis: lol [20:06:25] seriously [20:06:30] how many categories is that [20:06:31] mad [20:07:09] steiner was famous for being a polymath, as the lead notes [20:07:23] and of having three nationalities, it seems [20:07:30] Yes, he is a complex person [20:07:40] But, 1 kB diff just from categories... [20:07:44] this kind of intersection categories are an awful idea, eh [20:07:59] awful ideas in mediawiki? [20:09:21] hehe [21:09:25] hashar: that lua site is slow as molasses [21:09:38] jeremyb: might [21:09:42] and i don't see any errors now [21:09:52] the error i saw yesterday was different than what you paged [21:09:54] pasted* [21:09:55] jeremyb: maybe someone fixed it ? [21:10:08] it was about extensionTag() yesterday [21:10:12] or it depends on some magic thing in LUA [21:10:24] honestly, I haven't followed the LUA effort so I am clueless :-( [21:10:41] i haven't either [21:11:01] oh, does lua not do diffs?? [21:11:03] http://sarkarverse.org/index.php?title=Module:Footnotes&diff=2696&oldid=2695 [21:41:56] LaTeX to PNG throws quite some errors on de.wp: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55709 [21:41:58] see e.g. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap-Produkt [21:42:20] could somebody take a look? [21:42:26] Reedy, greg-g ^^ [21:47:27] andre__: I commented on the bug. [21:47:37] oh thanks [21:47:44] I wasn't very helpful. :-) [21:47:53] Andrew B. is on RT duty. [21:47:58] Depends how bad the disruption is. [21:48:19] Aaron and Faidon have also done some thumbs work, I think. [21:48:51] Is there a link to an article with the issue? Google results aren't helpful... [21:49:07] Oh, you have a link in here. [21:49:26] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap-Produkt looks fine to me. [21:49:28] Albeit in German. [21:49:29] I don't think it's a thumb issue [21:49:43] I don't either. It sounds like intermittent LaTeX failure. [21:49:44] it doesn't have an tag at all [21:50:07] andre__: Elsie: this has been happening on-and-off for like a month on various pages on various wikis [21:50:14] I see $X$ and such. I think it's preferences-dependent. [21:50:16] there are probably some other bug reports [21:50:17] paravoid: ^ [21:50:23] There are fancy math prefs. [21:50:29] MathJax, etc. [21:50:32]

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Fehler beim Parsen(Unbekannter Fehler): \sigma\frown\psi:=(-1)^{pq}\psi(\sigma\circ\iota_{0\ldots q})\sigma\circ\iota_{q\ldots p}

[21:50:35] [21:50:41] is what I get [21:50:57] We don't have a URL parameter to force math rendering, do we? [21:50:59] That'd be convenient. [21:51:03] interesting. I tried a bunch of times on that de.wp page and never got it without errors. [21:51:03] I see some tags, but these render fine [21:51:51] I don't see "Fehler" anywhere on the page. I'm logged in, though. [21:51:57] I'm logged in as well [21:52:20] Is anyone maintaining LaTeX rendering? [21:52:32] dunno [21:52:35] Same. [21:52:42] physikerwelt is reworking it entirely with help from gwicke [21:52:48] yeah I knew about that part [21:52:48] Oh, MatmaRex quit. [21:52:53] no idea about the old one, though [21:52:58] I was going to ask him about other bug reports. [21:53:20] The bug doesn't seem urgent, but perhaps high priority. [21:53:56] * ori-l takes a look [21:54:09] What is Fehler beim Parsen mean? [21:54:13] s/is/does/ [21:54:17] Elsie, Error while parsing [21:54:18] failed to parse? :) [21:54:27] Hmmm. [21:54:29] or that [21:54:38] Yeah, dunno. This part of MediaWiki is scary. [21:54:57] Someone came in here the other day complaining about and I think it turned out to be simple vandalism. [21:55:08] is it the ocaml stuff? [21:55:38] hmmm [21:55:41] I could be wrong [21:55:48] and that being an ops issue [21:56:04] $contents = wfShellExec( $cmd ); [21:56:07] if ( strlen( $contents ) == 0 ) { [21:56:07] return $this->_error( 'math_unknown_error' ); [21:56:08] I think it used to be OCaml. It's now wrapped in the "Math" MediaWiki extension. [21:56:10] } [21:56:49] There's quite a few weird projects like this. Timelines in Perl, hieroglyphics weirdness, music, and then math. [21:57:41] * Elsie resumes OAuth bugs. [21:57:49] Speaking of strange projects. [21:58:36] wth is this tidy crap [21:58:59] Haha [21:59:03] Everyone hates Tidy. [21:59:14] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54617 [21:59:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2542 Old bug. ;-) [22:00:26] I think there are TeX-rendering logs somewhere. [22:05:14] ori-l: the new stuff only does mathml right now, I think [22:05:24] latex will still be the old stuff [22:05:33] lastcomm is full of tidy [22:05:36] shell & tidy [22:05:40] spawned per every request... [22:05:42] wth is this shit [22:05:48] paravoid: we run tidy :) [22:06:17] not sure why it would be every request, unless parsing was occuring [22:06:18] On every parse, I think. [22:06:31] yeah maybe, I just saw a lot of them per minute [22:06:41] lastcomm isn't more granular than that [22:06:46] * Ryan_Lane nods [22:07:42] hm, the parser cache output doesn't include the server it was generated in [22:11:06] I haven't found anything wrong yet [22:11:21] pretty exhausted though, I'm going to go I think [22:11:39] paravoid: what's wrong? [22:12:06] see backlog :) [22:12:21] Ryan_Lane: Investigating https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55709 [22:12:21] bz 55709 [22:12:30] oohhh, ok [22:12:44] That bug was a c-c-c-combo breaker. [22:13:02] I had the 557[01]Xs all locked up. [22:18:17] Present for you paravoid https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89751 [22:18:36] Stick the parsed by server in the report like we do Served by [22:18:46] heh [22:18:54] two mediawiki patches by this [22:19:11] well, one config, but still [22:21:32] paravoid: the tex in the bug seems to work fine on enwiki [22:21:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:GWicke/Test/Math [22:22:02] gwicke: apparently it works fine in dewiki too if you do a null edit [22:22:10] according to the bug [22:22:11] weird [22:22:14] so it's intermittent [22:22:28] maybe some apaches don't have the full texlive installed? [22:22:34] need wfDebugLog [22:22:34] yeah, something like that [22:22:46] that's why I said it might be ops/shell after all [22:22:55] *nod [22:23:31] from a cursory look on the extension, "unknown error" seems to be emitted when the texvc output is has a zero length [22:23:50] paravoid: I guess one way to test that would be to run latex through dsh [22:25:31] I believe texvc pipeline is | latex | dvipng [22:26:41] apache-sanity-check is meant to check for this [22:28:36] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Texvc#Usage has some example commandlines [22:29:12] 2013-10-14 22:21:25 mw1209 hewiki: TeX: /usr/local/apache/uncommon/1.22wmf20/bin/texvc '/tmp' '/tmp' '1,4,9,\dots ,n^2,\dots ' 'UTF-8' 'transparent' [22:29:13] in case the sanity check does not cover all of that [22:29:15] 2013-10-14 22:21:25 mw1209 hewiki: TeX output: [22:29:17] --- [22:29:20] 2013-10-14 22:21:25 mw1209 hewiki: start rendering $1,4,9,\dots ,n^2,\dots ,10000$ in mode 0 [22:29:55] but [22:29:56] root@mw1209:~# /usr/local/apache/uncommon/1.22wmf20/bin/texvc '/tmp' '/tmp' '1,4,9,\dots ,n^2,\dots ,10000' 'UTF-8' 'transparent' [22:29:59] mba8d6da2e4dc2d6f4cf63e8d4eecedf21,4,9,...,n²,...,10000 [22:30:13] code being [22:30:14] $contents = wfShellExec( $cmd ); [22:30:14] wfDebug( "TeX output:\n $contents\n---\n" ); [22:30:14] if ( strlen( $contents ) == 0 ) { [22:30:14] return $this->_error( 'math_unknown_error' ); [22:31:33] I pasted the ,10000 output but it happens for both [22:32:00] I'll add logging for the error [22:32:38] heh [22:33:06] thanks :) [22:43:02] grr, it's annoying that wfShellExec can do stdout or combined stdout/stderr but not separate stdout / stderr [22:43:26] File a bug. [22:44:16] ori-l: log is 7MB already