[07:46:50] hello, could a shell user please check out https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53162 ? hywikibooks users are currently unable to access all their cookbook/wikijunior pages [07:58:14] tto: hashar maybe? [07:58:20] 25 07:46:50 < tto> hello, could a shell user please check out https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53162 ? hywikibooks users are currently unable to access all their cookbook/wikijunior pages [07:58:29] * jeremyb has to be a sleeping [08:06:56] sorry [08:07:05] tto: there? [08:08:45] ahh namespacedupes [08:08:50] I should still be able to handle that [08:10:05] o.0 i'm surprised Reedy didn't run that when he merged the change... [08:10:12] $ mwscript namespaceDupes.php --wiki=huwikibooks [08:10:13] Looks good! [08:11:22] hashar: wrong wiki [08:11:26] ahhh [08:11:39] small detail :P [08:11:56] I think I have skip the letter 101 courses at kindergarden [08:12:00] mixing up U and Y [08:12:10] I got 2729 errors [08:12:17] and the script still claims it looks good hehe [08:12:20] i blame azerty [08:12:21] f*** [08:13:52] hashar: you need to add force or something on the end iirc [08:13:58] for it to rename them [08:14:03] yeah yeah [08:14:14] I would expect the script to tell me there are some issues though [08:15:34] s/force/fix/ [08:16:35] ... 2426 (0,"Եփութուխ:դոլմա") -> (102,"Դոլմա") [[Եփութուխ:Դոլմա]] [08:16:36] ... resolving on page... A database query error has occurred. [08:16:37] Query: UPDATE `page` SET page_namespace = '102',page_title = 'Դոլմա' WHERE page_id = '2426' [08:16:38] Function: NamespaceConflictChecker::resolveConflictOn [08:16:39] Error: 1062 Duplicate entry '102-Դոլմա' for key 'name_title' (10.64.16.8) [08:16:40] pffffff [08:17:17] I suspect the hywikibooks community has started to recreate the "lost" pages in their new namespaces... [08:17:33] we should catch that error nonetheless [08:17:45] are you a steward/global sysop, can you move the offending page out of the way? [08:17:51] tto: no need [08:17:56] tto: are you an editor on hywikibooks? There is 5 pages that will need to be fixed. [08:17:58] just use --suffix [08:18:12] then they can deal with it [08:18:35] tto: those 5 pages are both in the mainnamespace (0) and in the cookbook namespace (102). I will have the script rename the one from the main namespace with /BROKEN as a suffix [08:18:54] tto: someone will need to delete the one in ns 102 and move the one from namespace 0 to 102. [08:18:54] ok I'll update the bug/notify the community if you like [08:19:02] tto: will that work for you? [08:19:08] sounds fine [08:19:32] can you report a list of the broken pages? [08:22:23] tto: the list of broken pages is on comment 13 : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53162#c13 [08:22:26] (bottom) [08:22:34] [[Եփութուխ:Դոլմա/BROKEN]] [08:22:34] [[Եփութուխ:Թխման փոշի/BROKEN]] [08:22:35] [[Եփութուխ:Կարագթան/BROKEN]] [08:22:36] [[Եփութուխ:Կտավատ/BROKEN]] [08:22:37] [[Եփութուխ:Ցորենի սև ալյուր/BROKEN]] [08:22:56] thanks :) [08:23:17] if you need any help, let me know [08:23:45] tto: you want to look at the new pages (the ones not having /BROKEN) they probably have been created since the change got applied and most probably should be deleted [08:23:57] tto: then you can move the /BROKEN equivalent there and you will have everything fixed [08:24:07] tto: once done, please close the bug 53162 :-]  Sorry for the trouble! [08:24:24] p858snake: we should probably run namespaceDupes on all wikis from time to time and generate a report [08:25:17] i think theres a bug for that [08:25:42] or we could just whip people till they start running it when they merge namespace changes >.> [08:56:15] Hi [08:56:37] You said to let you know if proofreading coloration wasn't showing up on Index: pages at Wikisource [08:56:47] Well - https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:KAL801Finalreport.pdf isn't showing colors for me at the moment [08:57:48] Qcoder00: whoever told you so is most probably not around :/ [08:57:55] OK [08:58:00] But the glitch still exists [08:58:02] Qcoder00: do you have a bug report already? [08:58:12] Not exactly [08:58:22] I am not familiar with the proofread function on wikisource :-( [08:58:39] What should be happening is that I see red, green , yellow or blue boxes depending on statsu [08:58:42] and I am not [08:59:09] If it's not your area of expertise, do you know whose it is? [08:59:12] do you remember who you were talking about it ? [08:59:29] Things get fixed a lot faster when there are bugzilla reports filed [08:59:41] since people can see them whenever they come online [08:59:49] yeah most people are away right now :( [09:00:23] hashar: Sadly not [09:00:29] because last time it cleared itself [09:01:30] ahh [09:01:33] I see what you mean [09:01:33] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Wind_in_the_Willows_(1913).djvu [09:01:41] shows pages with a green background :-) [09:01:48] (and one with yellow) [09:01:49] Yep [09:02:01] The Index page I linked earlier doesn't [09:02:11] (at least not for me) [09:02:17] I have purged the page https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:KAL801Finalreport.pdf [09:02:21] it is showing color to me now [09:02:39] so there was most probably a bug at some point that prevented the color from being shown [09:02:46] if you find that issue again, you need to purge the page [09:02:57] OK [09:02:59] Thanks [09:03:08] that can be done by clicking the edit link, which brings you to https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Index:KAL801Finalreport.pdf&action=edit [09:03:17] then change the action=edit to action=purge [09:03:22] that will force a rerendering of the page [09:03:24] Noted.. [09:03:27] clear out the cached (and invalid version) [09:03:33] and should fix the issue usually [09:03:35] :-D [09:03:45] That work around resolved my issue [09:03:46] hashar, expert for colorization issues:) [09:03:46] Thanks [09:04:04] Now if I can work out why score chokes on complex scores ;) [09:04:08] * Qcoder00 out [09:04:11] Qcoder00: I have no clue how we could fix it for all pages, but in 30 days all pages will be fine again for sure [09:04:16] * hashar waves :-D [09:04:21] mutante: yeah, kind of [12:05:36] Is there a standard that specifies the position of the country and state in for example the following string that appears in some UI: "United States - Wyoming" or "Wyoming - United States"? [14:50:39] hi [14:50:44] hi itu [14:51:34] how long does it take to get the password until requested at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Passwort_neu_vergeben ? [14:52:00] itu: is that the "forgot password" page? [14:52:06] usually under 5 minutes, in my experience [14:52:11] how long have you been waiting? [14:52:45] i think its ~15minutes ago [14:53:10] itu: you've checked your spam folder? [14:53:18] oh, wait [14:53:42] its under the "social networks" tab in gmail .... [14:55:21] ok, thx [14:56:26] :-) [14:56:39] I guess we are a social network sometimes! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia, itu [14:57:00] omg [14:57:09] 15 minutes ? [14:57:13] :( [14:57:33] itu: how long did it actually take for the email to get sent? [14:57:37] can you tell? [14:58:06] cortexA9: i did not look at the "social networks" tab , so i did not see the incoming mail [14:58:26] oh ok [14:58:36] ~28minutes until now [14:58:40] itu: you can drag it to the normal tab and gmail should then figure out to send email to your inbox from us [14:58:59] also, that should signal gmail (if enough people do it) to not categorize us as a social network [14:59:41] but most of the wikimedia-messages are bulk, so its ok with the tab ... [15:00:23] mostly "someone changed your talkpage" , and thats less important [15:02:59] that's true [15:09:30] hm, and now i'm not logged in automatically in all the other projects [15:10:00] i opened before [15:10:29] and more [15:12:05] ping YuviPanda [15:12:30] ping dMaggot [15:13:24] dMaggot: code looks okay to me, I'll test it and merge it in a few hours. [15:13:49] YuviPanda: ok [15:13:58] (ok, now i'm in at all sites) [15:24:42] I'm curious why I'm not an autoconfirmed user on meta after 2yrs and 76 local edits and that I'm a member of autopatrolled... can anyone help with that? [15:26:41] Elsie: do you have ability to fix that on meta for me? [15:27:22] for autopatrol pleas ask in #wikimedia-steward [15:27:28] *s [15:27:33] No [15:27:38] no? o-O [15:27:39] Oh, patrolled [15:27:44] Steinsplitter: I already have autopatrolled... [15:27:52] Registration time: 19:22, 4 June 2006 [15:27:53] Autoconfirmed is broken [15:27:54] ah, :/ [15:28:14] Autoconfirmed can't be granted via MW I think [15:28:38] I can't edit semi-protected pages. [15:28:48] Being given confirmed will do the same job [15:28:56] Like the RfA page. Pleasr do. [16:56:25] manybubbles|away: when you get back, I'd like to ask you about whether there is a particular thing you've ever tried to do with Cucumber [17:17:43] manybubbles: around? do you have any Cucumber tests that re-use the browser? [17:17:52] chrismcmahon: yes [17:18:05] chrismcmahon: they all do, actually. It is only a speed hack though [17:18:17] they are technically independent of one another [17:19:06] manybubbles: hrm. I just ran full_text_advanced.feature and saw new browser instances for each row of the table [17:19:31] chrismcmahon: you have to enabled it with an environment variable. REUSE_BROWSER or something. [17:19:33] let me check [17:19:56] export REUSE_BROWSER=true [17:19:59] will do it [17:20:04] manybubbles: thanks, I'm looking for a nice way to do that, I'll steal yours :) [17:20:09] sure! [17:20:37] I think mine has a bug where it crashes if it doesn't run any tests. I haven't cared enough to fix it. [17:22:38] manybubbles: nice! this test is painfully slow without that https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86003/ (I put you on the review list, hope you don't mind) [17:22:58] I'll have a look. some things are just super slow without that hack [17:23:09] yes [17:31:02] chrismcmahon: I commented on the patch in gerrit. I don't see an irc bot shouting about it so I figured I'd tell you. nothing bad :) [17:32:44] manybubbles: thanks. yes, I left that set-the-global-variable commented out b/c it's pointless until I get REUSE_BROWSER to dtrt [17:33:13] ah, yes. [17:35:59] ^d: poke [17:36:16] <^d> ohai [17:36:54] on the extensions/mediawiki/WikibaseMobile gerrit repo, i need to push stuff from github [17:37:01] it's an empty repo [17:37:09] i get "remote: To push into this reference you need 'Push' rights." [17:37:46] <^d> It's not actually empty :\ [17:37:48] <^d> https://git.wikimedia.org/log/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibaseMobile/refs%2Fheads%2Fmaster [17:37:54] well, i merged that in [17:40:22] <^d> Try now ;-) [17:40:25] ok [17:41:00] i think i need the forge identity thing now [17:41:03] just temporary [17:44:11] <^d> Forge committer. [17:44:36] <^d> Done. [17:44:49] ok [17:45:08] seems to work [17:45:19] forge committer can be removed now :) [17:45:56] thanks! [18:03:00] @techs: fyi https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#JavaScript_payload_on_Commons_is_twice_English_Wikipedia.27s (about eriks mail http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2013-September/006931.html) [18:04:04] mh.... rillke has removed it o_O [18:34:31] LeslieCarr: Who is in charge of lists.wikimedia.org these days? I got some spam that seems to have went through that server, but it doesn't have the extra mailman headers. I'm a bit puzzled [18:35:28] hrm [18:35:32] um, i guess ops is ? [18:35:42] can you forward me with full headers ? [18:37:36] I forwarded just the (full) headers, it's was over 1 MB [18:38:15] I get a load of spam over the -owner addresses, but that doesn't seem to be in here [18:39:29] LeslieCarr: Got it? [18:39:51] damn ok [18:39:58] not yet, checking my spam folder [18:40:07] hehe it was in my spam folder [18:40:20] lists.wikimedia.org is in the auto whitelist for me... [18:43:58] hrm..... [18:45:52] LeslieCarr: I'm missing something or there is really something wrong with lists..... [18:46:55] i'm wondering the same thing, forwarding onto the ops list .... [19:06:33] dMaggot: merged [19:06:37] dMaggot: thanks a lot for the patch! [19:06:46] YuviPanda: thx [19:08:59] multichill: "spam sent to pywikipedia-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org which is expanded by [19:09:00] mailman to the list owners," [19:09:56] Did you find that from the headers or from looking at the server logs? [19:11:48] LeslieCarr ? [19:12:32] that was actually from faidon but looking at it, the header here - 2013-09-25 10:47:43 1VOmd8-0003Iq-VJ => pywikipedia-l R=list_suffix T=list S=2223989 DT=0s [19:27:29] LeslieCarr: That's exim log, right? [19:27:49] that's from the headers [19:27:52] i thnk [19:27:58] lemme look bag again [19:28:04] oh exim log [19:28:10] yes [19:28:38] I see quite a lot of spam (several a day) coming in using this route (spam source -> lists -> me) [19:28:58] Do you happen to have a ticket open for that or maybe you can open one? [19:29:32] 1084 emails to be exact [19:29:39] per day? [19:30:10] i don't believe we have a ticket open for that… wow [19:30:10] and how do you expect/propose they be filtered? [19:30:14] Probably from the last 6 months, not sure when I last emptied it out. [19:30:21] ok. so not per day [19:30:40] that's <10 /day probably [19:31:41] yes [19:31:58] LeslieCarr: Is any spam filtering done on emails being sent to lists.wikimedia.org -owner addresses? [19:33:33] there's almost certainly spamassassin running. but idk if it's filtering or just marking [19:33:46] i don't think we are doing filtering.... [19:33:53] maybe Jeff Green or ma rk knows more [19:33:59] yeah [19:35:06] (i think spamassassin runs everywhere, sodium, mchenry, OTRS) [19:40:21] Could you open a ticket for this Leslie? Probably just a bit of spamassassin tweaking. I run it too and it's able to filter all these emails out with quite high scores [19:40:32] But that should of course happen earlier in the chain.... [19:41:57] i'll open a ticket about using spam assassin to filter aswell [19:47:53] rt 5838 [19:50:35] manybubbles: right now https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86003/ is almost clever enough to be merged. it works with REUSE_BROWSER=true but not when REUSE_BROWSER=false. I'm stepping out for lunch but feel free to comment or hack on it if you want. [19:53:11] hi, i want to develop a bot to create a page similar as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits. need some assistance regarding this [20:04:58] chrismcmalunch: deep in elasticsearch bug, unfortunately [22:22:09] manybubbles: everything works now: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86003/ comments for style points welcome :-) [22:26:04] T13|needsCoffee: What do you mean? [22:28:19] Umm... I have no idea. [22:28:38] Are you replying to my ping this morning? [22:28:48] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allusers&aufrom=Technical_13&auprop=groups&aulimit=1&format=jsonfm [22:28:59] You're autoconfirmed on Meta-Wiki. [22:29:02] I have no idea what you're talking about. [22:29:35] Ahh. I am now. Apparently an edit filter removed my autoconfirmed for reverting some vandalism. [22:29:45] Trijnstel fixed it. [22:30:44] How? [22:31:00] abuse filters can do that [22:31:15] yeah [22:31:18] degrouping [22:31:21] (no idea how, exactly) [22:31:34] it just removes you from all the groups [22:31:51] I was asking how it was restored. [22:31:55] It's a poorly built edit filter. [22:31:56] I got an answer from scrollback in -stewards. [22:32:09] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/tools [22:32:16] Or you're a vandal. [22:33:28] ... [22:33:48] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/60 [22:34:27] All page moves are banned? [22:34:31] That seems pretty daft. [22:34:37] probably just with the word 'gay' in it [22:34:44] > You may not view details of this filter, because it is hidden from public view. [22:34:50] Hold on. [22:34:59] give me sysop plox [22:35:20] It says I can't edit the filter... [22:35:33] You may not view details of this filter, because it is hidden from public view. [22:35:38] lol [22:35:39] Elsie: try harder [22:36:23] > You cannot edit this filter, because it contains one or more restricted actions. Please ask a user with permission to add restricted actions to make the change for you. [22:36:32] What the fuck does that mean? [22:37:10] Did you give yourself the ef flag? [22:37:22] What's an "ef flag"? [22:37:33] Edit filter [22:37:45] What's an "Edit filter"? [22:38:09] legoktm: Any idea why I'd get that error message? [22:38:14] Besides AbuseFilter being retarded. [22:38:21] Elsie: That's probably a global filter and only stewards can edit it [22:38:24] Or [22:38:25] Idk [22:38:27] It's a group that isn't part of admin tools by default that allows you to edit abuseFilters [22:38:29] It's not. [22:38:33] I can't really debug much without seeing the filter [22:38:36] Elsie: Ohhhh [22:38:37] I know [22:38:37] T13|needsCoffee: You're speaking out of ignorance. Please stop. [22:38:40] because degroup is set [22:38:44] er [22:38:47] blockautopromote [22:38:58] Why would that stop me? [22:39:01] so the problem is you don't have the abusefilter-restricted right [22:39:06] (or something named like that) [22:39:13] but im guessing stewards do [22:39:21] so a stew set it without realizing it [22:39:39] The filter was created by Herbythyme. [22:40:13] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [22:40:17] I don't see a "-restricted" user right. [22:40:42] that's because you don't have it [22:40:53] hold on, lemme check mw [22:41:02] 'abusefilter-modify-restricted' [22:41:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [22:41:11] im guessing stewards have that globally [22:41:38] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalGroupPermissions/steward [22:41:43] Was Herbythyme previously a steward? [22:42:17] At some point I think so? [22:42:18] Better question: why isn't that user right assigned on Meta-Wiki... [22:42:28] Because…..idk. [22:42:39] 11:35, 26 February 2009 Darkoneko (talk | contribs) changed group permissions for Special:GlobalUsers/steward. Added abusefilter-modify, abusefilter-private, abusefilter-modify-restricted, abusefilter-revert; Removed (none) (add the abusefilter rights) [22:43:08] https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/abusefilter.php.txt [22:44:01] legoktm: Thank you for your help. [22:44:06] Elsie: When was the last time the filter was edited? [22:44:18] np [22:45:21] 03:17, 14 December 2012 [22:45:26] That's the only edit to the filter. [22:46:26] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abuse_filter is cute. [22:49:57] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#AbuseFilter.27s_.22abusefilter-modify-restricted.22_user_right [23:57:32] jdlrobson: what's the deal with 'mobileTargets'? I can remove those now, right? [23:57:53] ori-l: mobileTargets are dead yes [23:58:00] they are harmless but do nothing [23:58:20] but I still need targets => array( 'desktop', 'mobile' ), yes? [23:58:24] if I want to load in both? [23:59:32] ^ jdlrobson