[01:36:03] <dchi>	 Hello folks
[01:36:24] <Base-w>	 hi
[01:36:53] <dchi>	 I popped into #mediawiki but it is pretty much dead after looking around on the internet solution may i ask it here?
[01:38:19] <Base-w>	 ask what you want, the worst thing you can get here is an ignore)
[01:38:31] <dchi>	 :)
[01:38:38] <dchi>	 this is the original transcript
[01:38:39] <dchi>	 * Topic for #wikimedia-dev is: MediaWiki and Wikimedia software development | Channel logs: https://bit.ly/11g3AEP | Report bug: http://wmbug.com/new | MediaWiki support: #mediawiki | Technical help for Wikimedia wikis: #wikimedia-tech | Wikimedia operations: #wikimedia-operations
[01:38:41] <dchi>	 oops
[01:38:51] <dchi>	 http://paste.dchi.me/view/33fb08ac
[01:40:29] <dchi>	 I havent been very successful at googling because all it wants to pull up is  "How to manually create a user group"
[01:41:03] <dchi>	 I figured there might be somethign I am either missing or i could probably do it through the mysql database
[01:41:16] <dchi>	 but taking a peek in there I believe the groups are hashed.
[01:41:29] <Base-w>	 Im useless in it but i hope someone will see it
[01:41:44] <dchi>	 appreciate that
[01:41:55] <dchi>	 Thank you for taking the time :)
[02:06:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 when was undelete ability introduced to file deletion?
[03:40:15] <Jasper_Deng>	 TimStarling: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/10.4.0.115 - looks like another misbehaving proxy
[03:40:48] <TimStarling>	 that's labs
[03:41:17] * Jasper_Deng  reminds himself to memorize WMF's subnets

[03:41:22] <Elsie>	 Why?
[03:41:31] <TimStarling>	 I just did reverse DNS
[03:41:43] <Elsie>	 Didn't the Toolserver end up globally blocked, but globally autoblock exempt?
[03:41:46] <Elsie>	 Or something like that.
[03:41:54] <TimStarling>	 I don't know why it would be possible to route labs private IP addresses to the main cluster, that's scary
[06:35:19] <russavia>	 i've just gone to META and for some reason i am logged in as http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bjankuloski06
[06:35:26] <russavia>	 i am able to view his preferences, etc everything
[06:35:42] <russavia>	 including their email address, etc
[06:37:54] <russavia>	 how and why could this happen?
[06:38:46] <russavia>	 this is quite a serious issue i believe
[06:42:10] <russavia>	 ummm, how do i report this and get it looked at?
[06:43:00] <russavia>	 i am logged into commons and da.wp as russavia, but on meta some bug has logged me into this guys account
[06:48:26] <russavia>	 so no techies about who can help me to report this, have it dealt with
[06:52:26] <ori-l>	 russavia: hang on
[06:52:28] <ori-l>	 just got online
[06:54:28] <russavia>	 i'm staying logged in, so that i can give screenshots, etc if required
[06:56:15] <Steinsplitter>	 russavia: your prolem?
[06:56:21] <ori-l>	 OK, we're looking into it; stick around if you can
[06:56:52] <russavia>	 steinsplitter, i clicked from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Biographies_of_living_people on Commons, and it took me to a zh-hant page with me being logged in as someone else
[06:57:07] <Steinsplitter>	 OMG
[06:57:33] <Steinsplitter>	 i too.
[06:57:35] <ori-l>	 russavia: which browser are you using? do you know how to use its dev tools?
[06:58:12] <ori-l>	 if you're certain you know how, it'd be good to get a capture of your cookies
[06:58:15] <russavia>	 steinsplitter, you are logged in as someone else as well?
[06:58:23] <Steinsplitter>	 jepp.
[06:58:31] <ori-l>	 same person?
[06:58:32] <Steinsplitter>	 maby the coocie is wrong.  mom
[06:58:34] <Steinsplitter>	 jepp
[06:59:43] <ori-l>	 Steinsplitter: to confirm, you're also logged in as 'Bjankuloski06'?
[07:01:57] <Steinsplitter>	 ori-l: yes
[07:02:39] <ori-l>	 Tim S. is looking into it, I'm primarily helping by not getting in the way
[07:02:41] <russavia>	 sorry am back, trillian froze on me
[07:03:11] <Steinsplitter>	 ori-l: https://triton.aquila.uberspace.de/wiki/meta-bug.JPG
[07:06:13] <ori-l>	 Steinsplitter: are you using HTTP or HTTPS?
[07:06:19] <ori-l>	 russavia: you too
[07:06:32] <russavia>	 http
[07:06:48] <russavia>	 ori-l, i've sent some stuff to tim on email, if you want it to?
[07:06:52] <Steinsplitter>	 ori-l: the screenshot was taken with http but with https the same problem
[07:07:21] <ori-l>	 russavia: no, tim will log whatever's relevant
[07:07:25] <russavia>	 ok
[07:10:35] <Steinsplitter>	 hm... strange. now WORKSFORME.
[07:10:57] <russavia>	 what works for you steinsplitter?
[07:11:11] <ori-l>	 if you can, please don't experiment and just wait
[07:11:12] <Steinsplitter>	 the problem is resolved now, for me.
[07:11:44] <russavia>	 i'm still logged in
[07:12:10] <russavia>	 i'm a bit worried that this guy's details have been access -- only because his preferences were set to chinese language
[07:14:48] <Steinsplitter>	 hmmmm  the cookie looks okay.
[07:27:56] <paravoid>	 russavia: we took some measures and this should be fixed for now, until for your case
[07:28:12] <paravoid>	 er, at least
[07:28:24] <paravoid>	 (boy, I need coffee)
[07:28:35] <paravoid>	 we're looking into finding the root cause for this and the extent of damage
[07:28:44] <paravoid>	 thank you very much for the report, that is indeed a very serious issue
[07:30:01] <russavia>	 paravoid -- this is not fixed -- http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Developers#Note_for_developers
[07:30:31] <russavia>	 i've refreshed and CTRL F5
[07:31:06] <paravoid>	 could you give me another dump like the one you gave us before?
[07:31:26] <paravoid>	 it's faidon @ wikimedia.org
[07:34:10] <Steinsplitter>	 o_O
[07:34:28] <russavia>	 sent
[07:36:28] <paravoid>	 got it, thanks
[07:39:11] <russavia>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/Code&diff=prev&oldid=5729238 shows that someone else is editing under the same username too
[07:42:13] <russavia>	 i feel like the palestinian guy who had posted on Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook wall
[07:42:25] <matanya>	 lol
[07:42:26] <russavia>	 and i bet there's no $500 prize for a bug report here either :)
[07:42:53] <russavia>	 you heard about that matanya?
[07:43:26] <matanya>	 i did, it was in the news yersterday
[07:43:35] <russavia>	 for others -- http://rt.com/news/facebook-post-exploit-hacker-zuckerberg-621
[11:37:28] <Steinsplitter>	 Is  MZMcBride in the Chat?
[16:16:36] <svick>	 apergos, parent5446: hello
[16:17:06] <greg-g>	 svick: I think apergos is out sick right now
[16:17:38] <svick>	 greg-g: ok, thanks for letting me know
[16:17:41] <parent5446>	 Hey
[16:18:32] <parent5446>	 Well I guess it's just us today.
[16:18:55] <svick>	 yeah; so, today i'm basically finishing up diff dumps
[16:20:28] <parent5446>	 OK, running into anything I can help with? Or is everything smooth?
[16:20:52] <svick>	 i think it should work, except that it doesn't; after i fix that bug, i should be able to merge it
[16:21:17] <svick>	 no, nothing you can help with, i think
[16:23:08] <svick>	 after i get this done, i'll write up spec for the diff dumps
[16:25:03] <svick>	 i can't think of anything else i would like to discuss today, do you?
[16:27:21] <parent5446>	 Nope
[16:27:37] <svick>	 in that case, see you tomorrow
[16:27:41] <parent5446>	 See you tomorrow
[17:27:35] <Elsie>	 Steinsplitter: Hi.
[17:29:39] <Steinsplitter>	 Elsie: hi
[17:30:10] <Elsie>	 Steinsplitter: Did you need me?
[17:30:17] <Steinsplitter>	 no? o_O
[17:30:44] <Steinsplitter>	 Elsie: Why do you ask?
[17:30:58] <Elsie>	 You asked if I was in the chat earlier.
[17:31:21] <Elsie>	 That Facebook exploit linked earlier is deeply embarrassing on multiple levels.
[17:32:18] <Steinsplitter>	 Elsie: ah, yes. :-).  But the problem is resolved now ;-) Thank you aniway.
[17:32:23] <Elsie>	 No problem.
[18:46:45] <aharoni>	 Hallo. An error with search on a new site - report under Wikimedia/lucene-search-2 ? Or somewhere else?
[18:47:06] <Reedy>	 Error?
[18:47:13] <Reedy>	 Error being indexes not yet created?
[18:48:12] <aharoni>	 Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53063
[18:48:20] <aharoni>	 https://tyv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%8B%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%80&title=%D0%A2%D1%83%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B9%3A%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA
[18:49:08] <Reedy>	 Yeah. Ops haven't created the indexes yet. It was apparently proposed that "new" wikis would go straight onto the new search system, but at that point it wasn't configured to be able to be done
[19:20:12] <sumanah>	 hey manybubbles :-) hey, I realized that since you are also testing performance on ElasticSearch this week, is that something that random folks like me can help with by asking big weird queries, or is that something only folks like you can test?
[19:21:36] <manybubbles>	 sumanah: I'm not really working on performance at this point - at least not until I have time without functionality bugs.  You can totally complain if test2wiki is slow though.
[19:21:52] <sumanah>	 oh ok manybubbles I'm sorry, I got confused 
[19:25:24] <sumanah>	 People near Germany might be interested in submitting a talk to PuppetCamp (Nov 28 in Munich) http://www.netways.de/puppetcamp/puppet_camp_nov_2013/cfp/ - deadline 1 Oct
[19:34:40] <multichill>	 hi sumanah
[19:34:45] <sumanah>	 hi multichill!
[19:35:47] <multichill>	 There is some beautifulsoup discussion on the pywipedia list, you might want to keep an eye on that ;-)
[19:39:29] <sumanah>	 multichill: oh! I'll take a look, thanks!
[19:41:07] <sumanah>	 multichill: I have a bit of trouble understanding .... why do people need to run "patch.exe"? to upgrade their local installations of Beautiful Soup?
[19:41:26] * multichill  doesn't get that either

[19:41:33] <multichill>	 See my last reply
[19:41:38] <sumanah>	 is there some kind of incompatibility between BS and recent pywikipediabot versions?
[19:41:42] <sumanah>	 yeah, I read that, thank you
[19:43:08] <sumanah>	 the Harihareswara-Richardson household would love BS testing + upstream improvements to Beautiful Soup, if any are necessary.  
[19:43:50] <multichill>	 That's what I thought! :-)
[20:37:45] <MaxSem>	 sumanah, "BS testing" sounds... ambiguous:)
[20:37:59] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: yeah :-) you're right