[01:28:52] Someone here in Wikimania was complaining about annoying captcha for cross-wiki editors. Is there a page that lists the captcha rule to see what needs to be changed? [01:40:57] Can anyone here help me figure out why -- var displayUTC = timeUTC.toLocaleTimeString('HH:mm:ss a'); -- doesn't return 01:38:43 AM? [01:40:58] Instead it returns 1:38:43 AM [01:40:59] (no leading 0) [02:18:30] can I ask a question? Is there anyway to have a redirect work with subpages? E.g. if Foo redirects to Bar, then Foo/Baz should redirect to Bar/Baz? [02:19:44] assemblr_: are you tginking like transcludinf the refirect? [02:20:35] If so, no. You can alwaya go to foo/baz and create a separate redirect to bar/baz [02:20:56] no, I'm running my own wiki, so I was wondering if there was any way to configure the software to do that automatically [02:22:09] Not that I'm aware of. [02:23:46] assemblr_: try asking in #mediawiki [12:13:31] how long will it take until the problem is solved :) [12:13:35] the wiki is pretty slow now... [12:13:40] which problem? [12:13:56] So we are not the only one. [12:14:12] Seems normal speed to me [12:16:07] well, the wiki is just slow [12:16:11] every project is slow [12:16:18] and we wondered how long it will take [12:16:25] I think it has something to do with the files/images [12:16:39] but not sure [12:16:46] every user from nlwiki says the same [12:17:12] not only nlwiki [12:17:25] where else? [12:17:33] Many wikis. [12:17:44] simple, meta, enwp etc.. [12:18:15] hmm [12:23:30] it's annoying because I can't do my work [12:23:32] or write articles [12:27:28] seems a bit slow on page load, but nothing that will prevent work or writing articles... [12:29:26] the longest call on a random nl. page appears to the cn banner [12:29:45] at 9.64seconds [12:30:54] (unless its only effecting the traffic via the other cluster) [12:32:36] but I don't have the problem solely on nlwiki :) it's also on other wikis... [12:38:19] Trijnstel, why have you blocked three users in dawiktionary who have made no edits? [12:38:36] probably because they were cross-wiki spambots [12:38:38] will look at it [12:38:48] I see no edits at all [12:39:21] yep, cross-wiki spambots [12:39:23] correct [12:39:28] but I found them on another wiki [12:39:48] and it turned out there were lots of spambots created on lots of different (usually small) wikis [12:40:04] and these spambots are active since quite some time now.... [12:40:10] no edits: http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Link28detail [12:40:16] I'm not done with checking them on all wikis, but did a bunch [12:40:22] yes, *I know*, but they were about to spam [12:40:30] why do you want to keep spambots open? [12:40:36] these aren't regular users [12:40:38] how can you know that? [12:41:07] Should we wait to block until they have done something wrong? [12:41:17] *shouldn't [12:41:26] no, we shouldn't, not with spambots [12:41:45] [14:40] Sarrus how can you know that? <- because I just know; have seen lots of these accounts [12:41:53] and besides, it's also confirmed via CU [12:42:11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Trijnstel <- I've locked more than 50 accounts yesterday [12:42:21] can you see in CU what they plan to do? [12:42:27] all with the same pattern [12:42:29] oh, come on [12:42:36] :-) [12:42:49] don't tell me things about spambots please [12:43:26] \o/ [12:43:32] Trijnstel: is a spambot expert. :) [12:44:29] I didn't ask you how you know it's spambots but howe you know what they plan to do. And as far I remember I asked the question before you said it was spambots [12:44:42] howe->how [12:46:39] [14:45] Trijnstel because I just know [12:46:41] [14:45] Trijnstel I've seen it happening & I don't want to give them the chance to spam [12:46:57] I know which accounts spam and with which pattern [12:47:09] because I've experienced lots of times [12:47:25] and again: I don't want to give them the chance to spam [12:47:28] I just couldn't understand why you blocked users who didn't make any edits anywhere :-) [12:47:45] anyway, on-topic now, the wiki is still slow... [12:48:14] Yeah. [12:48:17] is it all wikis? Dawiki also has problems [12:48:50] it now doesn't load at all as it seems [12:50:09] icinga is spamming -operations with apache problems [12:50:33] and that means? [12:50:52] there's problems with the apache servers [12:50:55] oh [12:51:06] well, I'm getting a cup of tea, takes too long for me [12:51:38] you're not gonna get much help from ops on the weekend unless you yell very loudly [12:51:53] * Trijnstel yells very loudly [12:51:54] ;) [12:51:58] O:) [12:52:49] !tea is please have a seat $1 and I'll go get you a nice cup of tea. Any sugar? [12:52:49] Key was added [12:53:09] !tea Trijnstel [12:53:09] please have a seat Trijnstel and I'll go get you a nice cup of tea. Any sugar? [12:53:13] Technical_13: yes please! :D [13:21:07] uh, I didn't know Tampa swift servers were so hard working https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=year&cs=&ce=&m=cpu_report&s=by+name&c=Swift+pmtpa&h=&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&sh=1&z=small&hc=4 [18:43:56] where can I see wikimedia's LocalSettings.php files again? [18:44:41] https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ [19:11:06] valhallasw, thanks [21:28:52] upload wizard doesn't work for me, how can I debug? [21:31:06] @ mark ? ^ [21:33:37] ./join #wikimedia-uw [21:33:48] arrg [21:55:13] hi [21:55:27] I'm having some recurring problems loading the CSS from the resource loader on bits.wikimedia.org [21:55:44] i don't know if the script never responds [21:55:52] or if somewhere along the line my isp is cutting the connection [21:56:04] but it's like 50-50 as to whether a given wikipedia page will load with css or not [22:10:57] Tim-away: ^ (or anyone else that sees it later) [23:48:48] Clinteger: have you tried pinging bits.wikimedia.org? do you get packet loss?