[04:39:53] Where should OTRS tickets about the visual editor be bounced to? [04:39:58] Like, feedback / suggestions [04:45:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback [04:46:03] lfaraone: That, probably. ^ [04:46:16] Or if they're specific technical feedback, https://bugs.wikimedia.org [10:06:41] is there any ETA when replication on db43 and db45 is started again? toolserver dbs are using them as master [12:04:37] Silke_WMDE: hey, thank you for the report of the db replication problem [12:12:04] Silke_WMDE: springle/notpeter/binasher would be the people to ask for that [12:12:04] so an RT ticket that would be assigned on one of those three : [12:12:21] Silke_WMDE: I'll file an RT ticket and ping notpeter [12:12:22] Silke_WMDE: paravoid is filing an rt ticket [12:15:05] Silke_WMDE: #5544, Cc'ed you via RT so you'll get answers through there [12:15:38] thank you paravoid, I appreciate that [14:44:24] <{{Guy}}> !bzqs job queue empty [14:44:24] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=job [14:44:43] <{{Guy}}> !bzqs del [14:44:44] Successfully removed bzqs [14:45:42] <{{Guy}}> !bzqs is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=$url_encoded_* [14:45:43] Key was added [14:45:48] <{{Guy}}> !bzqs job queue empty [14:45:48] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=job+queue+empty [14:59:36] wth is bzqs? [14:59:38] !bzqs [14:59:38] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=$url_encoded_* [14:59:38] !bug [14:59:39] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=$url_encoded_* [14:59:56] are these not aliases? [16:16:33] apergos, parent5446: hello [16:16:41] Hey [16:20:35] parent5446: hmm, i'll try to reach apergos on jabber [16:20:42] Kk [16:22:47] ok, i guess it's just the two of us today [16:22:57] OK, so what's up for today? [16:23:44] so, i am now working on writing different kinds of dumps (stub/pages, current/history) [16:24:24] i also posted a timeline for August and this month's report [16:24:41] Mhm, I'll check that out. [16:25:11] apergos wanted to discuss the timeline today, so i guess we do that tomorrow [16:25:52] Yeah. He's the more experienced one with this project, but looking at it now the timeline seems OK. [16:26:21] ok [16:27:16] when i finish what i'm working on now, i'll send an email to the list, so that others can check the progress and the file format [16:28:57] Awesome, yeah I know there are a number of people looking forward to this project. [16:31:03] yeah; that's it for me for today, do you have anything else? [16:31:28] Nope, also just to let you know, it seems the mid-term evaluation was submitted, so it's all handled for that. [16:32:29] ok, i didn't post my evaluation yet, i plan to do that today [16:32:35] Kk sounds good. [16:32:37] see you tomorrow [16:32:41] See you tomorrow [17:41:29] chrismcmahon: beta cluster is experiencing weird CSS/JS issues when I try to login (ie: they don't load) [17:41:35] chrismcmahon: same for kaldari [17:41:54] greg-g: that just now started happening [17:42:17] he's trying to test some uploadwizard thing, I think [17:45:14] greg-g: wfm now [17:46:23] chrismcmahon: doesn't for me :/ [17:57:04] Who is the owner for the HTTPS as default changes that have been rolled out? [17:58:09] They have been rolled out? [17:58:11] csteipp: ^ [17:58:15] I'm seeing it on enwiki [17:59:00] lock icons next to create account and login, and a new checkbox on login [17:59:45] Uhg, those were rolled out? [17:59:54] oh true [17:59:57] heh. the lock icon was supposed to be removed first :D [18:00:08] can we just keep it enabled and remove the lock icon with a further change? [18:00:08] Reedy: ^ [18:00:09] Is it this one https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/74268/ ?? [18:00:27] Yeah I [18:01:01] Even though I use httpseverywhere: Great thing :)) [18:01:25] I wonder if that is part of the problem with beta cluster, chrismcmahon ^^^ [18:01:33] can we just keep it enabled and remove the lock icon with a further change? <- I think that, and I am a little concerned about the additional checkbox on login. [18:20:28] What's going on with these lock icons? [18:21:44] kaldari: backscroll: https://dpaste.de/65vGZ/raw/ [18:22:16] thanks [18:23:01] The new checkbox on login is awful: "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" [18:23:06] who's going to know what that means? [18:23:22] can we roll this back please? [18:23:59] Reword it... [18:24:33] What does that checkbox actually do? [18:24:59] kaldari: If you check it you'll always stay on https, even if you hit a http:// link [18:25:01] set a user option or cookie or something? [18:25:04] I am filing a bug to remove it. [18:25:06] Like https everywhere does [18:25:17] the checkbox, not wgSecureLogin => true [18:26:01] Shouldn't that be in preferences, not on the log-in page? [18:27:02] fuck yeah, preferences [18:27:17] * ori-l disables Reedy [18:27:19] it's better to clutter the prefernce than the log-in page [18:27:23] * YuviPanda disables ori-l [18:27:29] * ori-l opts out of YuviPanda [18:27:31] scapping in a second [18:27:40] Let's work it out on the bug. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52283 [18:27:40] * YuviPanda hides ori-l with a gadget [18:27:45] * ^d whacks kaldari with a stick [18:27:49] rm -rf YuviPanda [18:27:54] <^d> It is *never* a good idea to add a new preference! [18:28:01] rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `/' [18:28:06] rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe [18:28:10] rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `YuviPanda' [18:28:20] i think YuviPanda wins decisively here [18:28:32] * recursively [18:28:32] Where's my nerf gun? [18:28:57] I did run rm -rf / on toollabs. Thankfully nobody trusts me with root :) [18:39:19] I think we discussed this in here at some point in the past, YuviPanda [18:39:32] discussed which, twkozlowski? [18:39:37] You can even run this on your local system /with/ root access, and it wouldn't work [18:39:44] rm -rf'ing your / [18:40:10] o_O [18:40:24] twkozlowski: ah, yeah. I knew that :) still, nice error message. [18:40:30] it's still a bit... hard to do it. what if... [19:07:43] a few enwikipedians and myself are getting new talk page message notifications despite not having any new messages [19:11:48] ^ kaldari, in case you know [19:15:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT#Random_.22Talk:_you_have_new_messages.22_messages.3F <- it's on VPT. [19:15:05] Re: yellow "Talk: You have new messages" notice - Me too. It's erratically appearing and disappearing. It just showed up again, and I hit refresh/f5 three times, and it only vanished on the 3rd refresh. [20:24:18] bsitu: ^ [20:24:32] kaldari: yes? [20:24:44] problem with echo mentioned above [20:25:23] it is related to the fix to this bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51640 [20:25:54] I couldn't reproduce it though [20:26:13] that's the only change to the orange bar [20:26:52] maybe so [20:27:55] quiddity_ wctaiwan: are you getting the yellow "Talk: You have new messages" notice without any corresponding Echo notification (the red badge next to your username)? [20:27:58] I guess it's a browser cache [20:29:29] same here by the way kaldari [20:29:30] yup, no echo notification [20:30:17] firefox 22, started an hour ago? [20:33:00] bsitu: perhaps we should move the check back to the client-side [20:34:34] kaldari: do you mean moving '$user->getNewtalk()' to a js variable? [20:34:38] or revert the code [20:35:16] yeah, moving $user->getNewtalk()' to a js variable [20:35:47] although perhaps it should be reverted in the meantime since several people are reporting the problem [20:41:41] I will go ahead and revert the change [20:42:22] bsitu, I'm preparing to scap - want to do it now? [20:42:43] MaxSem: yeap, thx, I will do that now [20:59:23] bsitu, are you deploying? [20:59:42] MaxSem: yes, I am pulling it on tin now [21:00:00] MaxSem: you are ready to scap? [21:00:16] yes, waiting for you [21:00:53] MaxSem: oops, sorry, will be done in a sec, I just need to test a little bit on testwiki [21:05:01] !technews [21:05:01] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Latest [21:05:16] pong. [21:06:31] MatmaRex: I /do/ remember that bit about Opera, will add it soon :-) [21:06:42] MaxSem: done [21:06:50] thanks [21:06:56] MaxSem: thank you! [21:07:35] twkozlowski: i'm just doing it myself ;) [21:07:38] also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33713/ [21:08:15] that one might actually make some people happier :P [21:08:38] Nice. [21:30:54] Nemo_bis: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33713/ Congrats! :D [21:33:53] Elsie: it seems that broke puppet, actually [21:34:34] PUPPET FRESHNESS: NOT OKAY [21:34:53] but it was swiftly fixed ^^ [21:35:59] "there is only one way to find out". :D [21:40:01] Nemo_bis: In any case, that's huge progress forward. Thank you for working on this. :-) [21:40:11] Everyone else had given up. [21:41:43] except the 30 duplicate reporters :P [21:43:05] :-) [21:44:32] I suppose https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46094 should be next. [21:46:33] Reedy: Thoughts on that? I could submit a changeset. [21:46:48] Have we noticed any measurable increased load from small wikis? [21:49:12] Has anyone been paying any attention? [21:49:37] No. [21:49:49] I work on the "wait until someone screams and disables it" model. [21:49:57] I don't think that's yet happened. [21:50:59] What is with the goddamn smilies everywhere? [21:51:00] http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=13009 [21:51:22] Not to be confused with: [21:51:35] http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=12939 [21:51:40] And not to be confused with: [21:52:06] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MoodBar-Selected-Sad_(larger).png [21:52:28] Perhaps they should be converted to animated GIFs. [21:53:44] Elsie: should probably wait to see what happens with the new crons [21:53:52] some are redundant with the small.dblist ones of course [21:54:08] Yeah, I agree with waiting. [21:54:15] I'd just like to get the medium.dblist change queued. [21:54:41] Is it smileys or smilies? [21:54:43] I'd actually prefer the remaining 6 pages on en.wiki to be next :) [21:54:46] smilies afaik [21:55:03] flickr used some sort of sulkie actually [21:55:40] I think either form may be acceptable. [21:55:41] Let's see... [21:56:07] Yeah, seems so. [21:56:14] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smileys#English [21:56:16] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smilies#English [21:56:46] One has a better anagram, though. [21:57:27] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smileys [22:19:31] gn8 folks [22:41:25] Every time I see someone say 'gn8' I read it in an American accent [22:41:44] guu-nait? [22:42:07] gneight [22:42:35] instead of gnite [22:51:56] You should be reading it a German accent. :-) [22:51:59] in a [22:52:04] Typing is hard. [22:58:16] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/GN8 [22:59:55] so it means guta Nacht. hm. [23:00:01] gute* oops [23:00:17] Thus the German accent. [23:00:35] I always assumed it was 'good night'. Which does sort of make sense because that's the English translation. [23:03:43] yea, 8 = acht, night = Nacht [23:11:43] I didn't even make the 8 = acht connection. I haven't learnt any German for just over a year now