[08:46:07] hi, is currently a problem wit the SUL Cookies? [08:47:31] this problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51644 [16:38:41] Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Shirik, from 10.64.0.141 via cp1015.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [16:38:41] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno (11) Resource temporarily unavailable at Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:38:13 GMT [16:39:09] just constantly [16:39:18] oh looks like it's on every page [16:39:32] yeah, I can't get anything to load either. [16:41:39] wfm now [16:42:07] same [16:42:20] http://status.wikimedia.org/ down :) [16:42:33] as in "Data could not be loaded at this time. Please try again in a minute." [17:36:28] Nemo_bis: status.wm.o seems to be back now. [17:37:19] Though it apparently requires JavaScript. [17:37:53] yes, nothing changed, it was just my fault [17:38:00] I forgive you. [17:38:35] I transfer your forgiveness to NoScript who decided to ignore my "allow ALL page" command [17:40:39] Elsie is intransitive [17:41:10] * YuviPanda tries to remember when he was last on irc but ori-l wasn't [17:41:25] June 12th, 1976 [17:42:27] hmm, I was only -15 years old, so wouldn't remember [17:42:57] hmpf people boasting about their youthfulness [17:43:23] For obscure definitions of "boasting." [17:43:58] * YuviPanda boasts about being 6 years old [17:44:21] good times [17:44:43] Elsie: antimony being down reminds me, how many servers if any do we lack to get Polonium [17:45:01] and friends? I hope for the right isotopes [17:45:01] Is antimony down? Which services is that? [17:45:18] https://www.gittip.com/ [17:45:26] oh, nothing important, just git.wm.o [17:45:42] https://github.com/trevorparscal/stalk [17:45:46] * YuviPanda gives everyone arsenic [17:45:52] yumm [17:45:59] Nemo_bis: The issue with git.wm.o seems to not have anything to do with the server being down. [17:46:11] The Web server is up. [17:46:36] I commented on the relevant bug. [17:46:36] well, it's not properly "down", just slacking [17:46:52] oic [17:46:52] Right, but there's a big difference between a server being down and a service being down. :-) [17:47:23] > Major, critical and blocker bugs crawl around the screen until resolved, at which point they are squashed and eventually dissappear. [17:47:26] Sure but then my polonium question wouldn't work [17:47:30] This sounds super-neat. [17:49:19] Krenair: demon created repository labs-tools-lolrrit [17:49:29] That may be where grrrit-wm ends up. [17:50:33] Elsie: yeah, I'm supposed to move it there... at some point. probably next week. [17:50:40] needs an import from github, not sure if I can do that myself. [17:50:44] I don't like the repo name. :P [17:50:53] labs-tools-grrrit :-) [17:50:54] well, it's labs/tools/lolrrit [17:51:00] Elsie: true, I can rename it :) [17:51:07] grrrit is indeed more appropriate [17:51:10] is there a git-deploy component on bz, or is it tracked via RT? [17:51:16] gerrit rarely makes people lol, but does make people grrr [17:51:25] ori-l: "git-deploy" as a concept seems fairly abstract. [17:51:34] I don't think it has a component in Bugzilla, though Git/Gerrit does. [17:52:01] ori-l: under https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia [17:52:02] it's there [17:52:06] I'd strongly prefer Bugzilla to RT unless there are privacy reasons. [17:52:23] YuviPanda++ [17:52:24] yeah, me too [17:52:30] plus RT is horrible to use [17:52:36] I wouldn't know. :-) [17:53:03] you're not missing out [17:53:04] YuviPanda: I've probably seen that component a million times, but I always skip over it because I don't really know what git-deploy is. [17:53:19] The future of scap™® [17:53:21] it's the replacement for scap, *I* think [17:53:30] I've only heard whispers [17:53:35] Yeah. [17:53:43] it is currently used for deployments of parsoid and eventlogging [17:53:44] Oh, I only heard curses [17:54:03] I got a recent status update on it. [17:54:07] Let me find the link... [17:54:18] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43338 [17:54:19] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43338#c4 [17:54:25] I won in my client. ;-) [17:56:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:National_Security_Agency#There_is_a_complete_lack_of_information_on_the_NSA_mind_control.2C_Remote_Neural_Monitoring.2C_... [18:00:10] Does anyone else ever get 502 nginx errors on en.wikipedia.org over HTTPS? [18:00:47] I haven't ever, no [18:01:22]

plus RT is horrible to use [18:01:22] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50891 [18:01:23] hm really? [18:01:30] I only used it briefly [18:01:36] But I don't recall it being that bad [18:01:55] RT makes bugzilla look friendly, welcoming and usable [18:02:17] well I guess bugzilla isn't friendly, welcoming and usable to everyone, but... [18:02:32] Krenair: it takes the Bugzilla concept of "guess how many e-mails clicking this button will generate" to a new extreme [18:02:44] ah :D [18:03:15] yeah I used a small RT system when I did work experience at a school [18:03:17] ori-l: I don't suppose there's any way for you to look up how frequent this error is? [18:03:23] I don't think we could really have that issue [18:03:38] I don't think it's specific to me, though it could be. [18:03:43] Elsie: probably not, but I'll check in a moment [18:03:50] There haven't been other reports of it, as far as I know. [18:03:52] * Elsie checks Twitter. [18:03:54] well, HTTPS really is served by nginx [18:04:05] so you're not hitting some weird proxy server that is specific to your connection [18:04:20] A refresh always resolves the issue. [18:04:33] but it's odd because I'm using HTTPS Everywhere and am in the US so presumably hitting the same servers you are [18:04:50] Elsie is probably doing crazier stuff [18:04:51] I doubt you browse as much as me, though. ;-) [18:05:09] maybe not [18:05:19] God, there are a lot of incoming links to my watcher tool on the Toolserver. [18:05:19] :-/ [18:05:44] as to all useful Toolserver tools i.e. tons [18:05:49] Some reports of wikipedia.de throwing a bad gateway error... [18:05:52] gotta be zen about it [18:06:19] every 502 error more is a lawsuit chance less [18:06:21] https://twitter.com/randomsubu/status/94807769265352705 [18:06:53] http://www.marco.org/2013/07/21/adc-downtime [18:07:24] * YuviPanda is glad he's not doing iOS stuff anymore [18:07:35] http://blog.canonical.com/2013/07/21/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums-site/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=breach-notificiation&utm_campaign=shortner [18:07:44] * YuviPanda wonders how to spell schadenfreude [18:08:21] ori-l: no emails they sent? [18:08:40] ori-l: Ouch. [18:09:14] hm, began the process, I guess it's tons of emails [18:09:23] at least google analytics on their site is alive and well, based on the URL [18:09:47] I appreciate that they put a human face on the blog post. [18:10:23] * YuviPanda has extensions that strip out utm_* crap [18:10:36] Anyway, Twitter doesn't seem to have many reports of this bad gateway error. [18:10:59] the number of people that use HTTPS is vanishingly small, I think [18:11:12] so it could still be severe [18:11:14] I guess that's just everyone who is on httpseverywhere [18:11:31] https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=bad%20gateway%20%22https://en.wikipedia.org%22%20error [18:11:35] Useful.... [18:11:36] YuviPanda, wtf is utm_* crap anyway? [18:11:55] It's campaign tracking of some kind. [18:11:58] Krenair: stuff google analytics uses from tracking where things come from [18:12:09] Anyone know what UTM stands for? [18:12:15] U is definitely 'Urchin' [18:12:21] urchin tracked medium? [18:12:35] urchin tracking module, IIRC [18:12:37] YuviPanda, can you link me to this extension that gets rid of it? [18:12:40] * DarkoNeko opens wikipediaUnified threat management ? [18:12:49] Krenair: sure, moment [18:12:52] > The term UTM stands for Urchin Tracking Module and is the format/coding that Google uses to track your unique urls. [18:13:09] Krenair: https://github.com/Rik/au-revoir-utm [18:13:16] thanks [18:13:32] "It's just changing the displayed URL for copy/paste love without redirection so it should not slow down your browsing." [18:13:37] Krenair: installable link https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/au-revoir-utm/ [18:13:47] * ori-l mentally adds "...or affect data collection in any way" [18:13:52] that too. [18:13:53] People still use Firefox? ;-) [18:14:05] * Elsie hides. [18:14:09] I've conciously started using two browsers now. [18:14:16] man, I can never spell consciously right. grr [18:14:16] I'm using Chrome... :/ [18:14:24] Krenair: there should be a similar one for chrome too, IIRC [18:14:32] YuviPanda: It doesn't help that there's both conscience and conscious. [18:14:33] Krenair: https://github.com/jparise/chrome-utm-stripper [18:14:41] * Elsie clicks. [18:15:02] yeah, my conscious conscience gets confused [18:15:03] I like how the Chrome store has the scariest URLs. [18:15:14] not as scary as apple store thingies [18:15:17] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tracking-token-stripper/kcpnkledgcbobhkgimpbmejgockkplob [18:17:21] Speaking of scary URLs... http://5z8.info/illegal-guns-for-sale_t3b4xq_toosexyfortv.mov [18:17:32] It's actually a shadyurl.com redirect to en.wikipedia.org [18:17:33] not clicking that [18:17:53] :D [18:18:14] ooo [18:20:45] * YuviPanda pings Romaine [18:21:57] hey MatmaRex. the bot just reports what gerrit says, so I suspect gerrit is wrong in this case [18:22:27] YuviPanda: yeah, most likely, i just mentioned it since it was a recent example [18:22:34] yeah. [18:22:34] (and an easy one to verify) [18:22:37] true [22:22:34] gn8 folks