[04:58:56] so i'm looking at https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/New_York_City, and i cant figure out what API command to use to get the links in the "Related Sites" section [05:00:48] ah, its an extension. https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/New_York_City [05:00:52] er, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RelatedSites [05:01:40] with no API :( [07:14:33] Hi, how do I change the place in http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport?article=List_of_places_in_Stirling_(district)&linksfrom=1&redir=google [07:36:58] Sorry if someone answered, but how do I change the place in http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport?article=List_of_places_in_Stirling_(district)&linksfrom=1&redir=google [13:26:17] arghhh, someone could have told me that the version of VisualEditor on beta.wmflabs is one week OLDER than the on live enwiki..... [20:25:45] odder, ping [20:26:05] On Wikisource, the canonical names of the "Index" and "Page" namespaces [20:26:05] shall i translate namespaces' names? [20:29:10] yes, they have local names too [20:31:54] odder: also The automated [[:Category:Pages with broken file links]] now in [20:31:55] here i should translate cat's name? [20:32:50] Base-w: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-ProofreadPage/blob/master/ProofreadPage.namespaces.php [20:32:54] Base-w: yes, please do so. [20:34:10] Base-w: the name comes from some MediaWiki: message [20:34:29] [[mediawiki:broken-file-category]] [20:34:35] (i assume thisis about tech news?) [20:34:38] yes. [20:34:52] actually, we could probably automate that bit? [20:34:54] odder: maybe it should just link to that? [[:category:{{int:broken-file-category}}]] [20:35:13] I think it did, and I change that. [20:35:17] changed* [20:35:43] although some wikis override that message to use different categories for different namespaces, i think [20:35:48] (en.wp, i'm lookingat you) [20:37:10] if it overrided both translation and int are bad [20:37:51] MatmaRex: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2013/27 feel free to edit [20:38:04] * MatmaRex hides [20:38:24] gah, why does VE not work like it should [20:38:36] Base-w: I added documentation for that namespaces translation [20:38:43] hope this helps other translators [20:41:22] nice [20:41:35] MatmaRex: omg you are using VE?? :O [20:44:31] VE is to make vandals' life easier [20:44:42] and not more [20:45:06] Quoting basile: "So now everyone will be able to edit Wikipedia? This just /cannot/ work." [20:45:31] [20:45:35] Base-w: i'm debugging it :P [20:45:57] its better to not debug it [20:46:05] but fix old bugs [20:46:21] Base-w: old bugs are usually old because they're hard to fix [20:46:30] all these UXes and VE are just to create new bugs [20:46:40] instead of fixing old ones [20:46:42] or because they're incredibly tedious and boring to fix, and i am not getting paid for it [20:47:27] yeah its more fun to make vandals' life easier and editors' more difficult [20:48:03] Base-w: editor's life cannot get more difficult that it's now. [20:49:02] TUX makes it [20:50:45] is this tech news longer than previous ones? [20:51:07] i feel like i translate it infinitely long time [20:54:19] Base-w: did you read my e–mail? :-) [21:00:39] odder: in translators' list? nope [21:01:02] VisualEditor will be enabled for all logged-in English Wikipedia users on July 1, and for all users on July 8. [21:01:02] all users=anons at enwiki or logged in users at nonenwiki? [21:02:24] * Base-w 've read now [21:08:03] odder: ^ [21:11:53] Base-w: all users = anons [21:11:57] anons too [21:12:31] "View history" and "Add section" tabs [21:12:32] perhaps use int: ? [21:12:34] odder: ^ [21:14:45] I would if I knew what int these were :) [21:16:51] odder: {{int:vector-view-history}} and {{int:vector-action-addsection}} ? [21:32:04] odder: so shall i replace text with messages or you'll do it or not do it? [21:40:47] I have not received any wikimedia.org email for a few hours [21:40:55] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-June/date.html " Last message date: Fri Jun 28 23:40:23 UTC 2013" this seems wrong [21:40:56] something gotta be wrong. [21:41:53] Base-w: changed, sorry it took me so long, got a few things on my plate right now :) [21:43:58] odder: :) [21:44:15] sumanah: I've got a few gerrit related emails in the last couple of hours or so [21:45:41] Reedy: Thanks. False alarm. I sent myself a test email from another account and it arrived in seconds [21:46:10] I am just so used to new wikimedia.org email every time I step away from my computer for 4 hours. Weird. [22:28:09] Reedy (or someone else): can you help? Why is VisualEditor not at master at beta.wmflabs (but one week OLDER than on live enwiki)? https://git.wikimedia.org/history/mediawiki%2Fextensions.git/e24f410ce23ded74a63b00f5e8bddcc5e2a706ed/VisualEditor [22:28:33] se4598: I suspect the magic updating is broken for a 3rd time [22:30:00] Reedy: could you update it to master or at least on the version of live enwiki, want to test and translate help pages, but not on a live wiki [22:34:37] Let's seee [22:38:03] Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 848 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. [22:38:04] o_0 [22:39:12] se4598: How's that look? [22:40:17] 848 commits?! O_o [22:40:25] that's hopefully way more than a week old [22:41:15] I think it's just the way it was updating git submodules [22:41:23] git log said it was on a commit from the 21st I think [22:43:25] Reedy: VE seems to look newer to me, but Special:Version says still the old version? [22:43:50] like git object related. Special:Version can lie [22:46:40] Reedy: I suppose VE is now at master in beta.wmflabs but where in git did you updated it? [22:48:33] In the extension folder [22:50:14] ok, then https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions.git lies to me, theres still at 469cb4a [22:50:39] No, that's not lying to you [22:50:44] That's what is broken [22:51:03] That repo should automatically be updated whenever a commit is merged to an extension [22:51:07] for VE, it's not [22:51:22] Chad has fixed this twice recently (this week?) but it seems to be unhappy again [22:52:46] Reedy: beta.wmflabs is not connected to SUL right? [22:52:52] Nope [22:53:02] It has it own SUL [22:53:15] AzaToth: https://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:53:24] It's a microcosm of Wikimedia life [22:53:43] se4598: I don't truest that ssl cert!!! [22:54:25] They're all broken to me (Firefox), I suppose FF don't like asterix with sub-sub-domains [22:54:36] The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted. The certificate is only valid for *.wmflabs.org [22:55:53] AzaToth: If you trust it, also go to https://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/ and trust it for this domain, otherwise javascript will be broken for all wikis there [22:56:57] se4598: trust a unknown cert on wmflabs... [23:03:50] again this stupid "working..." gerrit with Firefox, but don't like to switch to chrome :( [23:05:07] Reedy: did you update VE on beta? [23:05:12] Yes [23:05:23] which is it? [23:05:29] which what is what? [23:05:31] git master? [23:05:35] yes [23:06:52] Trying to figure out if the "bug" I tried to see if it was fixed which Krinkle said was fixed, but isn't fixed in master. Probably becuase I've no feeling about the release procedure [23:07:00] prolly it's fixed but only in gerrit [23:07:11] Is the commit merged or not? [23:07:38] @notify petan [23:07:38] I'll let you know when I see petan around here [23:07:48] I never got information which commit it would be